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Surgically Implanted Explosives
« on: July 06, 2011, 06:19:48 PM »
For you guys that don't like the X-ray body scans, sorry looks like this will be the only way to catch these types of bombs.  Go for the body scans.  Even here on domestic flights.  They can be implanted here as well as overseas. 

We all know these crazy fanatics will sacrefice themselves to kill Americans.
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« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2011, 06:47:36 PM »
Even if there in no evidence that the bad guys have the technology to implant bombs "Surgically" we should let ourselves be checked in more intrusive ways by the TSA? I'm a little surprised that sourdough bit on this article!!

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« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2011, 08:45:31 PM »
I for one have never had a problem with the full body scan devices, if it means safer flights.  Smugglers have been using surgically implanted procedures for years to smuggle gems and drugs into the US.

I have seen both men and women who had been cut open.  Packets of gem stones slipped under the skin, then sown up.  Something about the way they acted caused the immigration folks to get suspicious and require a more detailed search.  Upon closer examination the fresh surgical sites were found, with hard lumps near the stitches.  Suspect was held till a Doctor was available, and the gem stones was removed.  If they can do it with gem stones they can do it with explosives.  There was a case recently where smugglers were using imported animals to smuggle drugs into the states.  After the animals cleared customs, they were cut open and the drugs removed.     

Take a woman and fill her body with enough explosives to make her look 7 months pregnant.  Her body could contain enough explosives to blow up a building, let alone a fragile airplane.  Yes it would probably kill her, but she only has to carry it a short time, and she is going to die anyway. 
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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2011, 12:53:50 AM »
Hey, I have an idea. Lets just do body scans on middle eastern men and anyone that resembles a Muslim, since they appear to be the only ones that are intent on blowing stuff up. Especially planes.   
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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2011, 04:18:34 AM »
MIRAGE. Below is a link to what Sourdough is talking about. There is no extreme satans disciples won't go to to murder innocents and send themselves to hell. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
 
 
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/07/06/airports-on-alert-as-al-qaeda-plots-to-implant-bombs-in-fanatics-to-beat-body-scanners-115875-23250443/
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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2011, 05:39:37 AM »
DDZ, now why would you want to come up with a common sense idea like that. Your going to make the rest of us look like we're prejudiced against muslims. Can't you just drink the kool aid and go along with the govt.  ;) gypsyman
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« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2011, 07:30:54 AM »
TM this method has been around for decades so moot point on your paranoia.
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« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2011, 08:01:51 AM »
DDZ:  The shoe bomber was a white dude.  If he had cut his hair he would have looked just like you or me.  Yet he was willing to die to kill a bunch of people on a flight.  So unfortunately your idea don't have merit.

Also with the new explosives they have out where a couple of drops could blow a hole in a plane.  For that matter all someone has to do is swallow a large capsule, that could hold enough explosives to blow the plane apart.  Detonation is all that is lacking.  When they get hold of detonators small enough to fit into the capsule, watch out.

These items exist, and the terriorist know it.  Just fortunately they have not been able to get hold of them yet.  One day they will, and I hope I am not on that flight.  You laugh?  Before we heard about it who would have thought about a shoe bomb?  Before we heard of it, or saw it in the news paper, who would have thought about the underwear bomb?  Having personally seen the drug and gem smugglers use the surgical method, I have felt it was just a matter of time till it was tried with a bomb.  Think back about a year to a year and a half ago.  There was a youtube link on this very forum about an explosive so powerful one drop would blow up a water melon.  While some said that video was a hoax, and there was debate on wheather it exist or not.  Notice the hype just died, no one ever admitted or denied it exist.  My view that stuff is real.  May only the people that laugh and scoff be on that plane when it blows.
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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2011, 09:04:37 AM »
I can see a belly bomb being illegal but what law says you can't sew a gem stone in your skin ? There are places in the world where objects are sewn in parts of the body to enhance pleasure  :o  . Some say sailors did such to have some means to pay passage out of bad places or if ship wrecked.
 One has to wonder when it will be apperant that the only cost effective way to stop the problem is eliminate the source as it has been done through out history.  ;)  A sad view of our world but realistic.
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« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2011, 01:16:28 PM »
DDZ:  The shoe bomber was a white dude.  If he had cut his hair he would have looked just like you or me.  Yet he was willing to die to kill a bunch of people on a flight.  So unfortunately your idea don't have merit.

Also with the new explosives they have out where a couple of drops could blow a hole in a plane.  For that matter all someone has to do is swallow a large capsule, that could hold enough explosives to blow the plane apart.  Detonation is all that is lacking.  When they get hold of detonators small enough to fit into the capsule, watch out.

These items exist, and the terriorist know it.  Just fortunately they have not been able to get hold of them yet.  One day they will, and I hope I am not on that flight.  You laugh?  Before we heard about it who would have thought about a shoe bomb?  Before we heard of it, or saw it in the news paper, who would have thought about the underwear bomb?  Having personally seen the drug and gem smugglers use the surgical method, I have felt it was just a matter of time till it was tried with a bomb.  Think back about a year to a year and a half ago.  There was a youtube link on this very forum about an explosive so powerful one drop would blow up a water melon.  While some said that video was a hoax, and there was debate on wheather it exist or not.  Notice the hype just died, no one ever admitted or denied it exist.  My view that stuff is real.  May only the people that laugh and scoff be on that plane when it blows.

Sorry Richard Ried was not exactly a white dude. His father was a Jamaican immigrant of African decent. Why do you think he was willing to die to kill a bunch of people on a plane. Could it be because he was a self admitted member of al-Qaeda? With alias's like abdel rahim, abdul raheem, abu Ibrahim, and tariq raja. Nice American white guy names huh? The guy was also a possible co-conspirator on 911. His buddies claimed he was to board a fifth plane on 911 and crash it into the white house. How did a guy like this get past security? Maybe they were to busy checking out what white guys had in their shorts. Or checking 12 year old girls bras. Or maybe checking under grandma's wig. 
 
Why can't we follow what the Israelis do? They profile and have very good success at it. I'll never buy the idea that because one so called white guy tried to blow up a plane, the TSA should body search every whit person that boards a plane. Personally I think its kind of stupid to do so. Especially since the majority of guys that try to blow planes up, are middle aged Muslim males that look like Muslims.
The big problem is, while the average white American with an American name is being detained, and given the third degree, an obvious middle eastern will stroll through unchallenged as a result of political correctness. 

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« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2011, 02:04:13 PM »
Gosh darn it DDZ there ya go clouding the liberal emotional diatribe with fact. You should be ashamed of yourself you know these "fellers" wear their emotions on their sleeves.
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« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2011, 02:17:32 PM »
I will agree with you DDZ about the profiling.  I have been to the Middle East, and Europe, and have seen it in use over there.  The Turks and the Israelis don't play around, and don't complain or you will be detained.  I agree they take too many extra looks at obviously non terrioist.  If the 90 year old grandma is Arabic, take a look, if not let her go.

As for Richard Ried all I can say is from the pictures I saw of him, and I would have said he was white.  Looked like a white man to me.
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Re: Surgically Implanted Explosives
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2011, 04:08:53 PM »
Jet Li movie 10 years ago and more recently a Jason Statham movie. Anything is possible. with just driving an SUV into kids being picked up from school near the top.

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« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2011, 04:46:33 AM »
Take a deep breath and relax a moment. There is a rule about personal hygiene products being 4 oz or less for a reason. Tooth paste 4 oz, mouth wash 4 oz, deoderant 4 oz, cologne 4 oz, shave gel 4 oz etc. With modern military grade explosives it still takes more than a couple of drops to bring down a plane.( there is a difference between military grade and construction or mining grade) A pound would sure ruin someones day and cause enough damage it might take out a plane depending on where it was placed or how close to a critical point it was. Planes are tested pretty thouroughly on this.
 
The explosive the "shoe bomber" used would not have destroyed the plane. He would have lost his feet and there would be some damage, but not enough to destroy the plane. The pilot could have set it down with minimal trouble.
 
 

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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2011, 08:05:56 PM »
TM this method has been around for decades so moot point on your paranoia.


Really.... So tell me oh wise one how many people have died so far.... huh.... NONE.?.?.?.
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« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2011, 02:14:17 AM »
The day might come when PC is dumped and all Americans tote a weapon . In that time when someone attacks all Americans present will take part in ending the threat . There will be no court cost. There will be no jail cost. Only justice .
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« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2011, 03:34:26 AM »
Actually Matt this method was used in Saudi Arabia already.
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« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2011, 06:24:18 AM »
I question the feasibility of stuffing someones abdomen full of explosives. That would be a major surgery and require a lot of skilled people in sanitary conditions and some recovery time to pull off. I'm sure anyone who has ever had a major abdominal surgey could say that you just dont get up and walk out and hop on a plane shortly afterwards. I would think infection would take it's toll before this person would be able to complete their mission.
 
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« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2011, 08:30:34 AM »
Been done in Afghanistan too.
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« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2011, 08:49:43 AM »
Not to be crude but breast or butt implants would seem in some cases to offer alot of cargo room . And not as much recovery time as major surgery.
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« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2011, 02:37:11 PM »
tsa is not allowed to operate x-ray strong enough to detect something inside you.
what they have is only strong enough to see your private parts and creat their fantasies.
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« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2011, 02:54:57 PM »
Been done in Afghanistan too.

 
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« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2011, 05:30:55 PM »
I've got a solution. Seeing that the justice dep't, BATF, FBI, etc. likes to supply weapons to mexican drug lords, why don't they supply remote controlled implantable exposive devies, (RCIED's), to the muzzies. Then activate the detonating frquencies through out all the airport parking lots. Mohamed Ben Thinkin, gets his virgins and the flights go on.
 
 
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« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2011, 06:07:32 PM »
Instead of a full body scanner, lets take it a step further- how about a bombproof room every one walks thru before they get onto the plane, as they step over the floor drain they are hit by a combination of rf and microwave that detonates any explosives they might be carrying. I would be more than happy to be delayed a minute or two as they hose out the room :D 

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« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2011, 06:21:38 PM »
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Geez, just when you thought it was safe to fly again, after TSA and billions spent on machinery and security state...the 'enemy' comes up with the idea of putting body bombs in obese white looking dupes to beat the security state.
 
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« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2011, 07:54:53 PM »
Like I said before, a bladder under the skin in the abdoman area that would pass for a woman being pregnant.  A detonator discuissed as an MP-3 or an I-Pod in her purse, or carried by someone else with her.  Or an  Insulin pen carrying the second part of a two part explosive. 

As for getting up and moving after abdominal surgery, load them up on enough opeium and they can do just about anything.

Insertion through the Female areas and the recovery time will be greatly reduced.  Like Ironglow said They don't care about their women anyway, only that they do as they are told.   
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