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 HUDSON, New York (Reuters) - A town clerk in western New York has resigned to avoid being forced to sign marriage licenses for gay and lesbian couples, citing religious objections to same-sex marriage.
Laura Fotusky, the town clerk in Barker, New York, said in her resignation letter that she will step down on July 21, three days before New York becomes the sixth and largest state to allow gay nuptials.
Governor Andrew Cuomo signed the same sex marriage law last month after the bill narrowly passed the Republican-led state Senate. Its approval in New York is seen as a catalyst for gay marriage elsewhere as well as helping push the issue to the forefront nationally ahead of the 2012 elections.
Much of the debate in New York focused on the scope of protections for those opposed to same-sex marriage. The new law exempts religious groups from performing same-sex marriages but does not extend those protections to individuals, including government employees.
Fotusky was not immediately available for comment, but in her letter, dated July 11, she said she believes the Bible takes precedence over man-made laws.
"The Bible clearly teaches that God created marriage between male and female as a divine gift that preserves families and cultures. Since I love and follow Him, I cannot put my signature on something that is against God," she wrote.
"I would be compromising my moral conscience if I participated in the licensing procedure," she wrote.
According to New Yorkers for Constitutional Freedoms, a conservative Christian nonprofit group that circulated Fotusky's letter to the media, she is the first clerk in the state to resign over objections to same-sex nuptials.
But she is not the first to raise concerns. Two weeks ago, the town clerk in the Syracuse suburb of Volney cited her own religious objections and requested that outside help be brought in to sign same-sex marriage licenses.
Cuomo, who had made the legalization of same-sex marriage a top priority this year, told reporters on Tuesday that he agreed with Fotusky's decision to resign because government workers have a responsibility to enforce the law.
"When you enforce the laws of the state, you don't get to pick and choose the laws," Cuomo said.
Conscientious objection among government employees has been an issue in some other states that allow gay marriage.
In Massachusetts, more than a dozen justices of the peace threatened to resign in 2004 after a state court ruled that barring same-sex marriages was unconstitutional, and at least one resigned. In 2000, the town clerk in Tunbridge, Vermont resigned even though state law would have allowed her to appoint someone else to sign marriage licenses.
Robin Fretwell Wilson, a professor at Washington and Lee Law School in Virginia, has lobbied lawmakers in New York and other states to exempt individuals, including government employees, from providing services to same-sex couples. In a 2010 paper, she argued that the religious beliefs of marriage officers should be accommodated as long as they pose no hardship to same-sex couples.
"Forcing a public employee with a religious objection to facilitate a same-sex marriage would be intolerant in the extreme when little is to be gained by such rigid demands," wrote Wilson, who was not available for comment on Tuesday.
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
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The whole thing is gross, nasty, and distasteful. The ones that amaze me are the folks that have a baby with "Invetro" egg/sperm implantation.Two girls decide to have a baby..... you spend thousands upon thousands of dollars to BUY sperm to have a baby. Is that not a waving red flag..........This is not the way things are supposed to be??????

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MOHAWK. NO, it's not the way it's supposed to be. Homosexuals should never, EVER be allowed to be in authority over children, or raise them. 2 funnybunnies here in Ky decided they wanted kids. Hired a surrogate. She had multiple babies, the media ate it up. It was sickening. Then the other funnybunny decided he wanted to be a daddy too, hired another one. I'm glad that lady in NY stood up for her Christian beliefs. The media will make a circus of this when it goes into effect. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

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This is my home town.  Just heard about it today.
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As I said over and over.. NY is a "blue" state only because of the size of the cities.. they outvote the rest of the state.  Northern NY and western NY are very conservative bastions... outside the cities.
  Oh, we do have a few idiots..but they usually keep their mouths shut..and they don't hang around in such big bunches...
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You can not change the path that humanity has followed for 50,000 years.  This folly of changing   human procreation by a stroke of a pen will only lead to painful social problems, human rights? I don't think so. All human rights have been achieved thru the democratic process of voting on the issue.  This is going to be a tragedy for everyone involved.  The use of Innocent children in Homosexual life style experiments borders on the cruelty of Pre-War Germany.  A study of Pre-Helenistic Greece can provide a chilling reminders of what this thinking can lead to. ???

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HUDSON, New York (Reuters) - A town clerk in western New York has resigned to avoid being forced to sign marriage licenses for gay and lesbian couples, citing religious objections to same-sex marriage.
Laura Fotusky, the town clerk in Barker, New York, said in her resignation letter that she will step down on July 21, three days before New York becomes the sixth and largest state to allow gay nuptials. ...

Fotusky was not immediately available for comment, but in her letter, dated July 11, she said she believes the Bible takes precedence over man-made laws.
"The Bible clearly teaches that God created marriage between male and female as a divine gift that preserves families and cultures. Since I love and follow Him, I cannot put my signature on something that is against God," she wrote.
"I would be compromising my moral conscience if I participated in the licensing procedure," she wrote.
According to New Yorkers for Constitutional Freedoms, a conservative Christian nonprofit group that circulated Fotusky's letter to the media, she is the first clerk in the state to resign over objections to same-sex nuptials.
But she is not the first to raise concerns. Two weeks ago, the town clerk in the Syracuse suburb of Volney cited her own religious objections and requested that outside help be brought in to sign same-sex marriage licenses.
Cuomo, who had made the legalization of same-sex marriage a top priority this year, told reporters on Tuesday that he agreed with Fotusky's decision to resign because government workers have a responsibility to enforce the law.
"When you enforce the laws of the state, you don't get to pick and choose the laws," Cuomo said.
Conscientious objection among government employees has been an issue in some other states that allow gay marriage.
In Massachusetts, more than a dozen justices of the peace threatened to resign in 2004 after a state court ruled that barring same-sex marriages was unconstitutional, and at least one resigned. In 2000, the town clerk in Tunbridge, Vermont resigned even though state law would have allowed her to appoint someone else to sign marriage licenses.
Robin Fretwell Wilson, a professor at Washington and Lee Law School in Virginia, has lobbied lawmakers in New York and other states to exempt individuals, including government employees, from providing services to same-sex couples. In a 2010 paper, she argued that the religious beliefs of marriage officers should be accommodated as long as they pose no hardship to same-sex couples.
"Forcing a public employee with a religious objection to facilitate a same-sex marriage would be intolerant in the extreme when little is to be gained by such rigid demands," wrote Wilson, who was not available for comment on Tuesday.
Kudos to the lady, for standing up for her beliefs.  It isn't often that people are unwilling to bend their beliefs for the sake of a paycheck.
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Sidewinder said;
  " A study of Pre-Helenistic Greece can provide a chilling reminders of what this thinking can lead to".
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  Sidewinder, are you referring here to the Hoplites who formed the long undefeatable "Greek Phalanx"..until homosexuality took root among them..bringing Greece down from it's "golden age" ?
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IG, I got from your post that you're from NY. well, not to worry, anyone who reads huntin and fishin magazines knows that NY is just like IL  controlled by big cities.  it's terrible that good country folk have to suffer at the hands of big city mayors.
edited to add.  almost forgot the topic, that lady in NY landed herself a place in heaven.

IG, if I could still travel that far, I'd invite myself up to go fishin :D
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This is a bitter sweet moment for my little town.  It is saddening to lose such a godly and moral person from a public office but at the same time to see someone do the right thing even when it costs them their job is encouraging!  I am sure God will bless her for this in some way.  I just hope my town does not become some sort of sick weird target now.  It is a conservative little community.  I would like to see it stay that way.
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Bugeye, sure would enjoy having you.  Although I am much more the hunter than the fisherman, there is plenty of good fishing in the area.  We have the Great Lakes (Erie & Ont) the finger lakes and many bass lakes & trout streams in between.
    I have a grandson, a Marine platoon sergeant at Parris Island, who hunts over in Georgia.  He hunts tuskers with a bayonet,(how else would a Marine platoon sgt do it?).  He goes over to Kite, GA..about 40 mi north of Vidalia.
  See one below which fell to a bayonet
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In my best days I don't think I would take on a hog with a knife. you must be proud of that Marine.
I'm old enough to have grown grandchildren, but I have a 21yo daughter.
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IronGlow, Yes that was part of the story. The word Pedophile comes from the Greek rules that governed the contact between older men and male children. Homosexuals became the  legal human predators protected by the Greek society. And it all started with a few freedoms for the alternate life styles. This would be repeated in Germany around 1900. The German Army had many Homosexual officers who took liberties with young GIs. This ended in the 1930 when these men were purged from the army. We will see this this repeated in our own forces.

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The German Army had many Homosexual officers who took liberties with young GIs. This ended in the 1930 when these men were purged from the army.
Yeah, the Nazis were very thorough in persecuting homosexuals. Thousands were sent to concentration camps, and many perished there.

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We will see this this repeated in our own forces.

Gee, I hope we don't start sending gay men to American concentration camps!
Jesus said we should treat other as we'd want to be treated... and he didn't qualify that by their party affiliation, race, or even if they're of diff religion.

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I don't think that would happen. The left tends to just kill babies because they can't defend themselves. A soldier might resist.

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I don't think that would happen. The left tends to just kill babies because they can't defend themselves. A soldier might resist.

 
YUP. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
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YT3 you have  no concern for the young German Soldiers who were taken to the hunting lodges and forced to have sexual contact with homosexual officers. You are worried about the criminal officers who violated the human rights of men serving their country. Yes, many of them went to prison. What would you have done with them?   Made them into school teachers?? This kind of thing will happen in the American military.  Yes, we will put them in prison, I hope. :-\

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YT3 you have  no concern for the young German Soldiers who were taken to the hunting lodges and forced to have sexual contact with homosexual officers. You are worried about the criminal officers who violated the human rights of men serving their country. Yes, many of them went to prison. What would you have done with them?   Made them into school teachers?? This kind of thing will happen in the American military.  Yes, we will put them in prison, I hope. :-\

 
SIDEWINDER. Good post. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

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I'll bet some fine liberals would like to burn this woman at the stake for standing up for her beliefs.
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I'll bet some fine liberals would like to burn this woman at the stake for standing up for her beliefs.

 
You bet they would. The nerve of that woman standing up for God. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

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Jesus said we should treat other as we'd want to be treated... and he didn't qualify that by their party affiliation, race, or even if they're of diff religion.

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It's good that she resigned.  Someone that stupid shouldn't be on a public payroll.  Suppose she was Catholic and refused to give a license to a Baptist couple because a priest wouldn't perform the ceremony???

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junior. I know my mind isn't as sharp as it once was and I know you've posted it before but I forgot what Church you said you belonged to, refresh my memory please.  POWDERMAN.  :o :o
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

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I don't think that would happen. The left tends to just kill babies because they can't defend themselves. A soldier might resist.
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...................................... This ended in the 1930 when these men were purged from the army. We will see this this repeated in our own forces.

Paragraph 175. Unfortunately it is no longer on the book.
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What would the town leaders have done if that woman was Muslim and claimed the same?
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junior. I know my mind isn't as sharp as it once was and I know you've posted it before but I forgot what Church you said you belonged to, refresh my memory please.  POWDERMAN.  :o :o
Southern Baptist.

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junior. As a Southern Baptist then I'm sure you are very familiar with the 1st chapter of Romans, verses 26- 28, or thereabouts. ?? POWDERMAN.  :o :o
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm