I like the 165 soft point better. I shot a 140 pound doe last year at a distance of about 30 yards. I hit her with the HPBT and she kicked and ran right to left 40 feet. I shot her a second time with the SPBT. She kicked and ran 50 yards and piled up with in site of me. After cleaning her up i found 2 entrance holes and 2 exit holes. I followed the blood trail back to the second shot. Blood trail was 3 feet wide and all pink frooth, lung hit, and I found a fist size peice of lung. from there i followed her tracks to where she was standing for the first shot. There was no blood between the 2 shots. There were no trees between us and before i shot the second time she showed no signs of beeing hit, she just looked at me. I did not recover either bullet, but i think the HPBT went right through with out expanding. The SPBT hammered her, the 30 yard run was a cartwheel down hill. She was dead on her feet and did not know it. The only thing i do not loke about the SPBT is that it is easily deformed if the same bullet is repeatidly rechambered.