Range / chrono report 45 Colt Classic carbine

[Muddly]

The load is a 250 gr XTP over 26gr of H110 ( Just a hair above minimum in Hodgdon's data) in Win cases lit by CCI large pistol mag primers. OAL 1.605 with a lightish crimp. Now this load claims 1400 fps in a handgun, and I expected more from the 20 inch carbine, but my average velocity is 1755 fps with low deviations and excellent accuracy. 3 rounders at 100 were 2 inches or less. Primers look fine and the cases now have what i call a 30-30 bulge. If you look at cases fired in the typical 30-30 you know what I mean. Extraction is fine, cases are still sooty but nowhere near that of cowboy and factory loads. Recoil is tolerable, however, I now have several recoil hickeys! Gonna try

[Dinny]

Do you intend to hunt deer with that load? If so, you may check around a bit to see if your velocity fits inside the bullet's intended velocity range.  I never realized how easy it is to push a bullet for the 45LC too fast. Most times the bullets are intended to expand at the lower velocities most 45LC pistols are made for. I don't recall the stats, but ran into a problem with a Barnes bullet a few years back. I was pushing it too fast and a deer ran farther than expected due to the bullet losing it's pedals and acting more like a solid than an a hollow point.


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Thanks, Dinny

[Muddly]

I wont hunt with a 250gr XTP at that speed. Hornady rates it to a max of 1600fps. I've used it , with great success in my inline .50 at 1550fps, but this is too much speed for my taste.The .45 240 Mag XTP would be a better choice at these speeds.  My goal is to match my muzzleloaders speed and I dont think I can do that with H110. Right now its the only powder I have... Today 22 gr of H110 under a 300gr non-mag XTP got me right about 1500fps, and that bullet is rated to 1700fps.

[Dinny]

Glad to see you're considering that too.   Keep us posted...


Thanks, Dinny

[yukondog]

I think the 240 xtp/ mag. would be a better option also, havent tried them yet but ordering a box tommorrow and will try them in the 45 and lite 454 loads.

[petemi]

The load is a 250 gr XTP over 26gr of H110 ( Just a hair above minimum in Hodgdon's data) in Win cases lit by CCI large pistol mag primers. OAL 1.605 with a lightish crimp. Now this load claims 1400 fps in a handgun, and I expected more from the 20 inch carbine, but my average velocity is 1755 fps with low deviations and excellent accuracy.

Could you please give me a reference where you found that load.  I went through both Hornady's and Hodgdon's data for .45LC in both rifle (Hornady) and revolver(Hornady & Hodgdon).  I found no loads whatsoever using H110 and 250 gr. XTPs.  I found no handgun loads that came anywhere near approaching 1400 fps with any powder.  The information must be somewhere.  Anyone out there have any clues?

Pete

An adder:  I also went through Lee, Speer and Lyman's data and found nothing with H110 or exceeding 1100 fps.  I did find a 250 gr. XTP load for Ruger and T/C in Hornady running 1400 fps max. over 24.6 gr. H4227.

[Spanky]

The load is a 250 gr XTP over 26gr of H110 ( Just a hair above minimum in Hodgdon's data) in Win cases lit by CCI large pistol mag primers. OAL 1.605 with a lightish crimp. Now this load claims 1400 fps in a handgun, and I expected more from the 20 inch carbine, but my average velocity is 1755 fps with low deviations and excellent accuracy.

Could you please give me a reference where you found that load.  I went through both Hornady's and Hodgdon's data for .45LC in both rifle (Hornady) and revolver(Hornady & Hodgdon).  I found no loads whatsoever using H110 and 250 gr. XTPs.  I found no handgun loads that came anywhere near approaching 1400 fps with any powder.  The information must be somewhere.  Anyone out there have any clues?

Pete

 
 
There are a few loads on ammoguide for the XTP 250gr. and H110.
 
 
 
Spanky

[quickdtoo]

Hodgdon list 26.5gr  MAX H110 for the 250gr XTP in their TC/Ruger data, I use their TC Lil'gun data for the 270gr Speer Gold Dot and 250gr Hornady SST(FTX, same bullet), get 1925fps, but if'n I were working up another load now, I'd give Reloder 7 a shot or three! 

Tim

http://www.leverguns.com/articles/paco/45coltlevergun.htm

[bikerbeans]

but if'n I were working up another load now, I'd give Reloder 7 a shot or three! 

Tim

Reloder 7, sounds like MAC has another convert.
 
BB

[quickdtoo]

 

[Doublebass73]

I found no handgun loads that came anywhere near approaching 1400 fps with any powder.  The information must be somewhere.  Anyone out there have any clues?

Pete,
Check out Hodgdon's website, they have handgun data for the 250 XTP over 1400 fps (Ruger T/C obviously) with Lil'Gun and H110. I have personally shot the max charge of 25.5 grains of Lil'Gun under the 250 XTP out of my 10" Contender, it was a handful.

[petemi]

Thanks guys, I found it.

Pete

[Muddly]

The data is in Hodgdon's magazine type load book in the T/C Ruger section. I've been looking for Reloader 7 data as I have a left over pound of it. I'd like to get a nice 1350-1550fps load for the 250gr. Any help appreciated!

[quickdtoo]

That shouldn't be hard to do, the Hornady 8th lists several powders in their Ruger/TC 250gr XTP data that should get you there, N105, AA#9, 2400, AA5744, H4227 and IMR4227, all with 1150-1400fps velocities in the 10" barrel.

Tim

[revbc]

Tim,
This is a little different, but I'm getting a promising load in 45lc with 27.5 grs of Imr 4198 over about 190 gr Ranch dog cast.  Gotta tap the cases or use a drop tube.

Bobby