Few years of non draws, I finally lucked into a permit for deer. This will be in the area just west of Show Low in the burn area of the Rodeo fire a decade back. Will be hunting with my buddy who lives in the Vernon area. We will be staying on his propert in the Pinedale area, So we can just walk off his property. Az game and fish said leftover permits were availible for deer and turkey. I imagine the economy has taken it's toll and the leftover deer permits are along the Mexican border. Too bad that used to be a good area,but with all the illegal problems down that way,you are probably taking a good risk. From confrontations with mules and coyotes the worst to ransacking of your camp to the least dangerous, it just isn't worth it.