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HR will not break open
« on: July 22, 2011, 03:52:42 AM »
I recently purchased my very first H&R. It is a .223 Handi-grip to go prairie dog hunting in September in South Dakota. I just got it back from local gunsmith who did a trigger job. I seated the barrel once. I didn't feel anything unusual and didn't have to force it closed. However, the release is stuck tight and the barrel will not break open. Does anyone have any suggestions. I plan on taking it back to the gunsmith today, but would like to hear what some more experienced people have to say. Thank you in advance for your input.
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Re: HR will not break open
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2011, 06:20:23 AM »
Welcome! Try cocking it and dry firing a couple times, see if that releases it. Broken or improperly installed parts can cause that issue.

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Re: HR will not break open
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2011, 08:30:38 AM »
I took it back to the gunsmith this morning. He said he knows what the issue is and would get resolved. I will have to wait and see come Monday or Tuesday when I pick it up again.
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Re: HR will not break open
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2011, 08:56:09 AM »
Did he tell you what the issue is?
 
 
 
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Re: HR will not break open
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2011, 09:11:34 AM »
Sure hope he doesnt charge you more.........
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Re: HR will not break open
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2011, 09:19:47 AM »
Quote from: gcrank1 on July 22, 2011, 09:11:34 AM
Sure hope he doesnt charge you more.........

 
+1 to that.
 
 
 
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Re: HR will not break open
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2011, 11:13:48 AM »
I had mine sort of lock up on me during late season last year... it was just because the hot vehicle, cold stand conditions back and forth got the oil to migrate out of the lockwork.  I put off oiling it because I did NOT want to deal with an oily shelf throwing off a long shot (never got one anyways!), but I had to about a week prior to the end because I could not open the gun unless I held the latch depressed and bopped the topside of the barrel with my fist a couple of times.  I took off the barrel, oiled it up, wiped it down, stuck it and the forearm back on, good and slick as new.  you want the SHELF dry, the rest of the stuff (especially the trigger contact point and extractor stuff on the underside of the barrel) lightly oiled.  don't run a gun dry.
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Re: HR will not break open
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2011, 10:19:16 AM »
Update - The gunsmith called me Saturday morning. He said he had it resolved and that I could come pick it up. He never said what the issue was, but when I arrived I inspected the rifle and operated it (broke open the action) without any issues. He never asked for any further payment so I am happy with it so far. He was pleasent throughout the experience, so I did not press for a reason.
 
I just finished bedding the forend last night and popped the mold. It turned out pretty good for my first time trying it on an H&R synthetic. I'll get it out and do some shooting with it soon to zero and practice for the upcoming prarie dog hunt. Hopefully it is a real tack driver. If it is I may further customize it out by stripping the blueing and doing a duracoat job on it. Metalic green maybe? We'll see.
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Re: HR will not break open
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2011, 11:11:15 AM »
Quote from: 8uck5nort on July 24, 2011, 10:19:16 AM
I just finished bedding the forend last night and popped the mold. It turned out pretty good for my first time trying it on an H&R synthetic.


What did you use for a bedding compound. I have yet to find anything that will adhere to the synthetic stocks reliably.






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Re: HR will not break open
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2011, 01:06:52 PM »
Go down to a local auto body shop, they have a mix for gluing the plastic parts of cars back together. It is kind of pricey, but if you get to know one of the guys who might be a shooter........
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Re: HR will not break open
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2011, 02:01:53 PM »
That's great news 8uck5nort, let us know how it does!  ;)



Dinny, try regular automotive "Bondo" body filler, I just used up the last of mine on the plastic discharge filler plate on my 42" mower deck to help seal it to the deck and provide better lift for the mulching blades, it seems to stick real good, still on there after a half dozen hour long cruises around the yard, it's not expensive either and relatively light, I'm not crazy about filling the cavity on the syn forend with extra weight, in fact that's why I haven't tried it yet.  ;D

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Re: HR will not break open
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2011, 05:10:07 PM »
I use JBWeld on synthetic stocks. It does stick if you you really rough up the surfaces. I use a dremel drum sander and let the surface soak in brake cleaner to remove as much residue as possible. I slit the sides of the compartment with a dremel disk sander for some extra grip. Just be careful not to cut all the way through. I then drill a hole through the compartment walls to get a solid mechanical lock by allowing the JBWeld to flow through. I added some old cut up carbon arrow shaft to act as anchors. I make my own pillars out of brass pipes and use the dremel to increase the inside diameter if needed to fit the barrel piller/screw.
 
I actually wanted the extra weight because this is going to be a dedicated varmint rifle. I might add weight to the butt stock to increase it even more.
 
I have used this technique on a ATI MN 91/30 stock and it has held up so far. I have shot that rifle well over 100 times with nothing coming loose. Pretty accurate rifle when I replaced the military trigger with a Timney. I am getting ready to do this to another ATI stock, but this one is on a .303 Lee Enfield.
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Re: HR will not break open
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2011, 06:15:01 PM »
why not arcraglas
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Re: HR will not break open
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2011, 06:37:20 PM »
Quote from: srussell on July 24, 2011, 06:15:01 PM
why not arcraglas


Won't stick to polypropylene very well. Neither will devcon or any of the other usual bedding compounds. I have a few ideas, but will try them before I make a post. ;)




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Re: HR will not break open
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2011, 01:49:08 AM »
Quote from: srussell on July 24, 2011, 06:15:01 PM
why not arcraglas
Cost. JBWeld is cheaper. Dinny is right. Synthetic stocks are difficult to bed because of adhesion, or lack thereof in this case. You have to create a really rough surface and more to create mechanical locks once the epoxy of choice hardens. I am sure there are products out there that actually create a chemical bond with the surface, but it would be pricey to use in quantities needed to fill the compartments. This is best way I have come up with so far that works (for now) and doesn't cost more than the stock itself.
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