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Re: Any news on the motivations of the perp in Norway?
« Reply #60 on: July 24, 2011, 11:10:01 AM »
junior, why do you hate Christians so much?  tell the truth.
I don't hate or even dislike Christians at all.  I hate people who want a theocracy for the USA.
  Theocracy? You mean like the abortionists who use abortion as their sacrament? or big government types who worship at the alter of big Government?As far as a theocracy is,I see no attempt to make Judaism Christianity or any other religion as the de-facto religion of the US. Matter of fact there is a certain amendment which guarantees that will not happen.

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Re: Any news on the motivations of the perp in Norway?
« Reply #61 on: July 24, 2011, 11:14:18 AM »
When something like this happens and the perp is white ,the first thing media does is try to link to right wing,christian,militia etc. They did this in Tucson at the shootings. Come to find out, Laughner tended to lean to the left. After this was found out and it did not fit the media agenda, it was dropped like a hot potato. Find it funny,the media always links Nazism to the right wing.In fact the Nazi movemment was socialist,which is always left of center or far left.
No need to "try" and link this guy to Christian right fanatics.  He's certified.
By his acts and deeds he has certified he actually is not a Christian.He may have used this as a front,but he actually can not be one.

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Re: Any news on the motivations of the perp in Norway?
« Reply #62 on: July 24, 2011, 11:19:05 AM »
When something like this happens and the perp is white ,the first thing media does is try to link to right wing,christian,militia etc. They did this in Tucson at the shootings. Come to find out, Laughner tended to lean to the left. After this was found out and it did not fit the media agenda, it was dropped like a hot potato. Find it funny,the media always links Nazism to the right wing.In fact the Nazi movemment was socialist,which is always left of center or far left.

Yes, that is correct, the Nazi called themselves Socialists.
 
It appears some on the forum want to make that Christian link, as Duk mentioned before
& a no-brainer that this would happen here.

.. Did the nazis call themselves socialists or is that what historians came to call them...?? I really don't know.
 
As for the Christian link, do you suppose that is because the perp has expressed a strong right wing judaeo-christian militant connection apparently?? ....You think?  Seems the assassinated children were from the AUF party clan and are rather socialist and very Pro-Palestinian having a pro Palestinian rally the day before.
 
 
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Re: Any news on the motivations of the perp in Norway?
« Reply #63 on: July 24, 2011, 11:32:20 AM »
junior, why do you hate Christians so much?  tell the truth.
I don't hate or even dislike Christians at all.  I hate people who want a theocracy for the USA.
every religion on this earth should be welcome in our country.  unless their agenda is to exterminate Christians and Jews. those kind should be destroyed.
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Re: Any news on the motivations of the perp in Norway?
« Reply #64 on: July 24, 2011, 11:41:59 AM »
Thank you for clarifying that Mauser.  I'm surprised someone with TM's usual level of erudition wouldn't know it already.  Assigning Hitler a spot on the far right was a master stroke for the left.  It's hard to believe that supposedly liberal people would play games with something that important.


As for the sicko, we'll just have to wait and see what story the big wigs settle on.  Have they publicized what his weapon was?  How did he have enough time.  I think someone on the forum has a signature line - Concealed carry!  When seconds count, help is only minutes away.

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Re: Any news on the motivations of the perp in Norway?
« Reply #65 on: July 24, 2011, 11:49:55 AM »
A guy I keep in contact with that was a foreign exchange student said the guy was an anti NWO conspiracy nut.
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Re: Oslo shootings
« Reply #66 on: July 24, 2011, 11:59:25 AM »
AN old friend I keep in touch with who was a foreign exchange student from Norway said that this guy was an anti NWO conspiracy nut.
 
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Re: Oslo shootings
« Reply #67 on: July 24, 2011, 12:15:30 PM »
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AN old friend I keep in touch with who was a foreign exchange student from Norway said that this guy was an anti NWO conspiracy nut.

 
WOW - I did not know that.  An anti NWO conspiracy nut you say?  Are you serious, Billy?
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Re: Oslo shootings
« Reply #68 on: July 24, 2011, 12:50:32 PM »
From what I'm reading the news this morning, it sounds like the Norway killer - who was not Amish, or a Muslim - was a Christian, a right-winger, and that he hated Muslims.

 
 
yellow. Are you saying this punk was a Christian?? Sounds like it. If you believe that then you have no idea what a Christian really is. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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Re: Oslo shootings
« Reply #69 on: July 24, 2011, 01:01:31 PM »
I'm just relaying what an old school mate that lives in Norway told me. No need to lie TM, that is your realm.
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Re: Oslo shootings
« Reply #70 on: July 24, 2011, 01:13:25 PM »
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YT3...on account of a 'technicality' this guy can't possiblely be one of from Christians according to Pman... ::) ::) ;) :D

 
Well, tm, I'll lay you odds that there won't be tens of thousands of Christians lining the streets and cheering for this guy.   :o :o :o
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Re: Oslo shootings
« Reply #71 on: July 24, 2011, 01:18:46 PM »
I'm just relaying what an old school mate that lives in Norway told me. No need to lie TM, that is your realm.

 
I think Billy is right. Early reports stated he was against the NWO.
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Re: Any news on the motivations of the perp in Norway?
« Reply #72 on: July 24, 2011, 01:36:52 PM »
Nope TM just relaying what an old schoolmate who lives in Norway said.
Now as for lying, that is your realm.
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Re: Oslo shootings
« Reply #73 on: July 24, 2011, 03:09:36 PM »
Sorry the truth bothers you TM. I heard he tried one of those 4000 watt death rays you linked up here awhile back but the batteries went dead.
 
I talked to my old schoolmate again, he says that is what they are saying around Norway, the guy was an anti NWO conpiracy nut.
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Re: Oslo shootings
« Reply #74 on: July 24, 2011, 03:18:54 PM »
Yeah, chill out, homeboy.  There are probably all kinds of New World Orders.  Besides, it's impossible to ascribe rational motives to anyone who thinks mowing down 80 teenagers is going to help his cause.  I think he should be drawn and quartered, with one part buried in each continent except Europe.  That'll fix 'em.

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Re: Oslo shootings
« Reply #75 on: July 24, 2011, 03:27:12 PM »
Looks like this nut could get a max sentence 21 years in Norway.
 
Looks like a tough place to serve time. http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2000920,00.html
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Re: Oslo shootings
« Reply #76 on: July 24, 2011, 03:30:00 PM »
Sorry the truth bothers you TM. I heard he tried one of those 4000 watt death rays you linked up here awhile back but the batteries went dead.
 
I talked to my old schoolmate again, he says that is what they are saying around Norway, the guy was an anti NWO conpiracy nut.
he probably wasn't using those copper-top batteries.
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Re: Oslo shootings
« Reply #77 on: July 24, 2011, 03:35:02 PM »
  You mean he is one of those silly guys who thinks some nebulous "NWO" runs everything.....
 
     Hopefully all will "come out in the wash", since he has apparently written a 'manifesto' containinmg all his gripes.  While what he did is an atrocity, it appears that Norway's naive attitude toward Muslims coming into the country and changing the culture is what set him off.  Likely his twisted mind could see that that in the case in Norway, it was the Labor (liberal) Party which was to blame..thet's apparently why he took it out on the Labor Party campground.
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  A news analyst explained on Fox News this morning explained how the conspiracy theorist mind works;
 
1)  the suspicious individual sees an incident or trend..and sees what the real reason for it is (e.g. Muslims did the 9/11 deed).
2)  He doesn't like or want to accept the obvious truth..
3)  He shuts his mind to the most likely and/or obvious explanation..
4)  He stops considering usual information source, reads only publications and visits only websites and blogs which AGREE with him.
5)  Soon, he actually believes that the majority of the world agrees with him, except for a few wierdos who disagree.
6) He doesn't even realize he has been conversing among and formulating opinions within a very small circle.
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 A short view;
  A) I believe the moon is made of green cheese.
  B)  most anybody , especially scientists, tell me it is made of rocks.
 C) I don't like what they say..so I seek out only those who believe as I do and converse with them only.
 D) Soon, I am surrounded by a thousand who agree with everything I say...and that is "amost everyone" to me !
 
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Re: Oslo shootings
« Reply #78 on: July 24, 2011, 03:43:56 PM »
BILLY. That 4,000 watt death ray sounds interesting, a few question before I buy one. How many batteries does it take?? How many shots do you get out of those batteries?? Energizers is what I have, would duracels works any better?? I'd like to try it out on this scum who murdered all those folks. A fine example of gun control. All it did was disarm the law abiding. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
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Re: Oslo shootings
« Reply #79 on: July 24, 2011, 03:46:52 PM »
You have to click on the Norway prison link. Sounds like a resort, gardening, horse back riding, ski jumps, tanning beds.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2000920,00.html
 
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Re: Oslo shootings
« Reply #80 on: July 24, 2011, 03:55:50 PM »
  Ironglow your fox news analyst needs to do some research. His findings come from his own mind. He has never talked to any conspiracy  Investigators to see how they think. The ones I know do extensive research. What does over 5, 000,000,000 have to do with anything?
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Re: Any news on the motivations of the perp in Norway?
« Reply #81 on: July 24, 2011, 03:55:52 PM »
Theocracy? You mean like the abortionists who use abortion as their sacrament? or big government types who worship at the alter of big Government?As far as a theocracy is,I see no attempt to make Judaism Christianity or any other religion as the de-facto religion of the US. Matter of fact there is a certain amendment which guarantees that will not happen.

Not so...the religion of atheism has become our state religion.
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« Reply #82 on: July 24, 2011, 04:43:36 PM »
 
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Ironglow your fox news analyst needs to do some research. His findings come from his own mind. He has never talked to any conspiracy theorist to see how they think. The ones I know do extensive research.

 
Yep, they do extensive research of other conspiracy theorists.  Kinslayer has posted some very good information on her several times, BUT it is ignored by the conspiracy theorists because it runs counter to their preconceived notions.  I've yet to see any of the conspiracy theorists go through his material and point out any errors.  All that's done is to say "yeah, but what about this and what about that".  Instead of acknowledging his material, they just want to go to something else that supports their view and does not conflict with it.
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Re: Oslo shootings
« Reply #83 on: July 24, 2011, 06:41:07 PM »
So is he a muslim yet?

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Re: Oslo shootings
« Reply #84 on: July 24, 2011, 06:59:37 PM »
So is he a muslim yet?

Nah... looks like he's an anti-Muslim crusader. I'm wondering if he's secular type, or if he thinks that God was on his side. Hoping for the former... but won't be a bit surprised if the later, I've seen it before.
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Re: Oslo shootings
« Reply #85 on: July 24, 2011, 07:19:35 PM »
I wonder if he ever used the term "obummer"?

Four years ago, he joined the Norwegian Order of Freemasons. To gain admission, a man must be “known to have stability in his daily life,” said Ivar A. Skar, the group’s leader. “He has now been excluded — the exclusion immediately effective,” Mr. Skar added. To earn money for the attacks, he wrote that he had started a company that earned him millions. Neighbors cast doubt on this claim, however, saying that they thought he had inherited some money from relatives. As he went about gathering six tons of ammonium nitrate fertilizer and turning aspirin powder into pure acetylsalicylic acid for his bomb, he led an active life online, railing against Muslims and Marxists in debate forums. He once approached Hans Rustad, the editor of a popular conservative Website called Document.no, with a proposal to create a pan-European movement modeled on Tea Party groups in the United States. When not surfing conservative blogs, Mr. Breivik was fighting virtual demons, ogres and other fantastical creatures in online role-playing games. He was a regular in talk forums for players of “World of Warcraft,” using a busty female as his avatar and the handle Conservatism.




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« Reply #86 on: July 24, 2011, 08:04:44 PM »
I think I'll go practice singing kum-by ya. gypsyman
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« Reply #87 on: July 25, 2011, 12:49:08 AM »
I wonder if he ever used the term "obummer"?

Four years ago, he joined the Norwegian Order of Freemasons. To gain admission, a man must be “known to have stability in his daily life,” said Ivar A. Skar, the group’s leader. “He has now been excluded — the exclusion immediately effective,” Mr. Skar added. To earn money for the attacks, he wrote that he had started a company that earned him millions. Neighbors cast doubt on this claim, however, saying that they thought he had inherited some money from relatives. As he went about gathering six tons of ammonium nitrate fertilizer and turning aspirin powder into pure acetylsalicylic acid for his bomb, he led an active life online, railing against Muslims and Marxists in debate forums. He once approached Hans Rustad, the editor of a popular conservative Website called Document.no, with a proposal to create a pan-European movement modeled on Tea Party groups in the United States. When not surfing conservative blogs, Mr. Breivik was fighting virtual demons, ogres and other fantastical creatures in online role-playing games. He was a regular in talk forums for players of “World of Warcraft,” using a busty female as his avatar and the handle Conservatism.
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Wreckhog;
    No copyrights to the term conservative..anyone can claim it..doesn't mean much, other than that he is probably a nutcase.
 
Ted Kaczynsky  the "unabomber", was steeped in liberalism.  He even had Al Gore's books in his Meagre supply of literature in his shack. http://www.texemarrs.com/011998/unabomber_a_genius.htm 

  Does that make him an average, run-of-the-mill liberal ?
 
   I really don't believe Al Gore had anything to do with his bombing binge !
 
I guess I follow a different logic process than you do...
 
 


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« Reply #88 on: July 25, 2011, 01:44:22 AM »
Wreckhog;
   Interestingly; Breivik had a fascination with Gore afficinado, Kaczynski and used much of Kaczynski's manifesto for his own, declaring socialist/leftist views:
  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/8658269/Norway-shooting-Anders-Behring-Breivik-plagiarised-Unabomber.html
   Still, I doubt Al Gore had anything however remote, to do wityh Kaczynski...
 
      Being an avowed Knights Templar, there is no way his views could be considered contemporary Christian.  The Knights Templar started as an offshoot of the Roman church..but after persecutions, split with them in medieval times.  The Roman church has ahd nothing to do with them since then and the non-Roman church never did accept them.
   http://www.foxcrawl.com/2011/07/24/video-anders-b-breivik-knights-templar-2083-a-european-declaration-of-independence/
   One could associate the Knights Templar with the Freemasons, but I certainly doubt the Freemasons had anything to do with his murderous rampage..
  Better go back and study some history, Wreck !
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Re: Oslo shootings
« Reply #89 on: July 25, 2011, 02:17:48 AM »
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Ironglow your fox news analyst needs to do some research. His findings come from his own mind. He has never talked to any conspiracy theorist to see how they think. The ones I know do extensive research.

 
Yep, they do extensive research of other conspiracy theorists.  Kinslayer has posted some very good information on her several times, BUT it is ignored by the conspiracy theorists because it runs counter to their preconceived notions.  I've yet to see any of the conspiracy theorists go through his material and point out any errors.  All that's done is to say "yeah, but what about this and what about that".  Instead of acknowledging his material, they just want to go to something else that supports their view and does not conflict with it.

What are you talking about?
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