Author Topic: Oslo shootings (Read 8635 times)

Lost Farmboy · « **Reply #90 on:** July 25, 2011, 02:38:15 AM »

Ironglow your fox news analyst needs to do some research. His findings come from his own mind. He has never talked to any conspiracy Investigators to see how they think. The ones I know do extensive research.

What does over 5, 000,000,000 people have to do with anything?

BUGEYE · « **Reply #91 on:** July 25, 2011, 04:41:32 AM »

the liberals paint this guy with a broad brush, conservative, Christian etc.
when we speak of muslim terrorists they demand one of those tiny artist brushes.

wreckhog · « **Reply #92 on:** July 25, 2011, 04:49:06 AM »

Quote from: ironglow on July 25, 2011, 12:49:08 AM

Quote from: wreckhog on July 24, 2011, 07:19:35 PM
I wonder if he ever used the term "obummer"?

Four years ago, he joined the Norwegian Order of Freemasons. To gain admission, a man must be “known to have stability in his daily life,” said Ivar A. Skar, the group’s leader. “He has now been excluded — the exclusion immediately effective,” Mr. Skar added. To earn money for the attacks, he wrote that he had started a company that earned him millions. Neighbors cast doubt on this claim, however, saying that they thought he had inherited some money from relatives. As he went about gathering six tons of ammonium nitrate fertilizer and turning aspirin powder into pure acetylsalicylic acid for his bomb, he led an active life online, railing against Muslims and Marxists in debate forums. He once approached Hans Rustad, the editor of a popular conservative Website called Document.no, with a proposal to create a pan-European movement modeled on Tea Party groups in the United States. When not surfing conservative blogs, Mr. Breivik was fighting virtual demons, ogres and other fantastical creatures in online role-playing games. He was a regular in talk forums for players of “World of Warcraft,” using a busty female as his avatar and the handle Conservatism.
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Wreckhog;
No copyrights to the term conservative..anyone can claim it..doesn't mean much, other than that he is probably a nutcase.

Ted Kaczynsky the "unabomber", was steeped in liberalism. He even had Al Gore's books in his Meagre supply of literature in his shack. http://www.texemarrs.com/011998/unabomber_a_genius.htm

Does that make him an average, run-of-the-mill liberal ?

I really don't believe Al Gore had anything to do with his bombing binge !

I guess I follow a different logic process than you do...

So you are saying that he is a conservative Christian, but not a contemporary conservative Christian?

BBF · « **Reply #93 on:** July 25, 2011, 07:33:02 AM »

I still like to know how as a civilian he got hold of a machine pistol which in Europe translates as a sub-machine gun with full auto capability. The ammo he used according to hospital staff disintegrated inside the bodies which again is specialized stuff not available to civilans.

Not in Canada or Norway anyway and I presume it is restricted to LEO's in the USA.

I don't think he acted alone, perhaps as the shooter but there have to be connections with people that have access with limited if any accountability to the above ordnance.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #94 on:** July 25, 2011, 07:43:38 AM »

My old buddy is saying that the perp is still being reported as an anti NWO conspiracy nut.

yellowtail3 · « **Reply #95 on:** July 25, 2011, 07:47:38 AM »

Quote from: billy_56081 on July 25, 2011, 07:43:38 AM

My old buddy is saying that the perp is still being reported as an anti NWO conspiracy nut.

Is this in addition to being a Muslim-hater, or instead of?

BUGEYE · « **Reply #96 on:** July 25, 2011, 07:49:16 AM »

scatterbrain, that kind of ammo is legal. we have it in both rifle and handgun ammo.

yellowtail3 · « **Reply #97 on:** July 25, 2011, 08:15:08 AM »

Maybe friends of the Mossad... ?

subdjoe · « **Reply #98 on:** July 25, 2011, 08:22:13 AM »

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Breivik writes in his manifesto that he is not religious, has doubts about God’s existence, does not pray, but does assert the primacy of Europe’s “Christian culture” as well as his own pagan Nordic culture.

Breivik instead hails Charles Darwin, whose evolutionary theories stand in contrast to the claims of the Bible, and affirms: “As for the Church and science, it is essential that science takes an undisputed precedence over biblical teachings. Europe has always been the cradle of science, and it must always continue to be that way. Regarding my personal relationship with God, I guess I’m not an excessively religious man. I am first and foremost a man of logic. However, I am a supporter of a monocultural Christian Europe.”

The terrorist also candidly admits he finds no support within either the Catholic or Protestant churches for his violent ideas.

Yep....a far right Christian Fundamentalist.

Notice how we are told not to wonder if Nidal Malik Hassan’s Muslim faith had anything to do with him shouting “allah akhbar” before gunning down 13 of his Army comrades. The faith of New York’d Times Square bomber Faisal Shahzad was also taboo. Because we oughtn’t jump to any conclusions without all of the facts being in. But here the faithful media rushes to judgement and brands the thug a right wing Christian Fundamentalist...without all the facts being in.

Can you say "double standard?"

I knew you could.

subdjoe · « **Reply #99 on:** July 25, 2011, 09:00:05 AM »

Don't read much, do you TM?

BBF · « **Reply #100 on:** July 25, 2011, 09:05:59 AM »

I'm not qualified to answer that from the point of military experience.If this happend in the USA( no slam intended) I can see this as a loner doing. In Norway much much less.

BTW. Did you know they had an off-duty policemen as security on that island unarmed of course that was killed as well?

Casull · « **Reply #101 on:** July 25, 2011, 11:10:16 AM »

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At this point I'm going with idea he was a well connected judaeo-freemason self-styled christian Z-NWO neocon type,,,

Anybody surprised? Come on, anybody?

powderman · « **Reply #102 on:** July 25, 2011, 04:16:30 PM »

Quote from: Casull on July 25, 2011, 11:10:16 AM

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At this point I'm going with idea he was a well connected judaeo-freemason self-styled christian Z-NWO neocon type,,,

Anybody surprised? Come on, anybody?

HEH, nope, not me. True to form. POWDERMAN.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #103 on:** July 25, 2011, 04:18:28 PM »

Quote from: Casull on July 25, 2011, 11:10:16 AM

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At this point I'm going with idea he was a well connected judaeo-freemason self-styled christian Z-NWO neocon type,,,

Anybody surprised? Come on, anybody?

I have to admit I have never partied that hard.

ironglow · « **Reply #104 on:** July 25, 2011, 05:31:19 PM »

TM says;
"At this point I'm going with idea he was a well connected judaeo-freemason self-styled christian Z-NWO neocon type,,,"
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Right TM;
Or perhaps a judeo, afro-American, klansman with ties to GMC and FDR..say nothing about his association with WCTU in support of the feninazis and the gay liberation front.

ironglow · « **Reply #105 on:** July 26, 2011, 04:25:34 AM »

TM asks;
" My question to mil types and those more familiar with this type of operation...could he have put this together and pulled it off by himself along every step of the way, including slaying all those on the island." ...?

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TM all I can do is offer a quote from Desideriuis Erasmus:

" In the country of the blind, the one-eyed man is king"!

When he is the ONLY man on the island with a gun..he is KING ! The Norweigans are victims of their own liberalism and political correctness. I have read that they did have a cop on the island..but he was UNARMED, and was shot dead with the others...
Those folks are not the same as they were duringh the era of viking ascendancy..
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THe NY Times is claiming this nutcase is a "fundamentalist Christian" ...by now, anyone with reasonablr deductive powers already knows, that the old "Grey Lady" is really the BS lady nowdays..

BUGEYE · « **Reply #106 on:** July 26, 2011, 05:04:50 AM »

all the vikings are rolling over in their graves. them old boys were not very nice guys, but they weren't "chicken" like they are today. every liberal in Norway is guilty of mass murder.

45-70.gov · « **Reply #107 on:** July 26, 2011, 05:45:56 AM »

Quote from: BUGEYE on July 26, 2011, 05:04:50 AM

all the vikings are rolling over in their graves. them old boys were not very nice guys, but they weren't "chicken" like they are today. every liberal in Norway is guilty of mass murder.

its coming to america too

wait for the most part its here now

we here are some exceptions

billy_56081 · « **Reply #108 on:** July 27, 2011, 03:50:45 PM »

Look at the gulag where the killer may have to spend his next 21 years. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/accused-norway-killer-may-land-luxurious-prison-173329040.html

ironglow · « **Reply #109 on:** July 27, 2011, 05:29:30 PM »

The Norweigian prison system may as well send out invitations to all the worst criminals..killers, torturers, rapists, pedophiles.
Since they are unlikely to face anything like US justice..perhaps Svcandanavia can become a haven for those types..

Oh! I forgot...that is exactly what that nut was protesting..the wholesale importation of murderers, rapists, those who stone women and approve of child molestation..

subdjoe · « **Reply #110 on:** July 27, 2011, 05:53:32 PM »

Why is everyone assuming only 21 years? OK, the maximum in Norway for any crime is 21 years. How many are dead? 96? So, 96 x 21. I don't think Norwegian law says sentences must run concurrently (just my guess from a very brief skim of Norwegian laws).

billy_56081 · « **Reply #111 on:** July 28, 2011, 02:47:39 AM »

Quote from: TM7 on July 28, 2011, 02:44:32 AM

Quote from: subdjoe on July 27, 2011, 05:53:32 PM
Why is everyone assuming only 21 years? OK, the maximum in Norway for any crime is 21 years. How many are dead? 96? So, 96 x 21. I don't think Norwegian law says sentences must run concurrently (just my guess from a very brief skim of Norwegian laws).
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Norge Law has a max sentence of 21 years with the exception if a prisoner is deemed a danger to society he/she would remain imprisoned.

All governmnets have caveats when it comes to keeping certain people imprisoned. This guy won't get out...but he has a big mouth and known bloggr...I bet he gets suicide or murdered.

..TM7

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One can only hope.

BBF · « **Reply #112 on:** July 28, 2011, 05:11:55 AM »

This may be old news. If he pleads insanity and is found guilty he will be under lock and key for the rest of his life. There is no time limit with that sentence.

BUGEYE · « **Reply #113 on:** July 28, 2011, 05:24:44 AM »

Quote from: scatterbrain on July 28, 2011, 05:11:55 AM

This may be old news. If he pleads insanity and is found guilty he will be under lock and key for the rest of his life. There is no time limit with that sentence.

you're right, but, if their prison system is like a resort, then their asylums are probably even nicer.

ironglow · « **Reply #114 on:** July 28, 2011, 06:08:45 AM »

Time to straighten out some myths and correct some outright lies about Anders Breivik, the Nordic Nutcase.
http://www.eurasiareview.com/debunking-6-myths-about-norways-anders-breivik-oped-26072011/

ironglow · « **Reply #115 on:** July 28, 2011, 07:09:36 AM »

Quote from: TM7 on July 28, 2011, 06:28:18 AM

Quote from: ironglow on July 28, 2011, 06:08:45 AM
Time to straighten out some myths and correct some outright lies about Anders Breivik, the Nordic Nutcase.
http://www.eurasiareview.com/debunking-6-myths-about-norways-anders-breivik-oped-26072011/

Pure spin and crap from Daniel Greenfeld,,,,his bio is clear....this guy was Fjordman it appears....this guy was zio practioner even melding neo-nazism with zionism...this appears as an Operation Gladio event. I do not believe he acted alone...

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Of course TM;
We all know you are much better informed and far less biased than Daniel Greenfield...so we must adhere to your view.

Did you notice where Breivik considered "teaming up" with the jihadists..using their own philosophy, "the enemy of my enemy, is my friend".
However, tyhe important point i was making is that those who claim Breivik is a "Christian" must be very ignorant of what a Christian REALLY is ! You can't change that by coming down on Greenfield, because the story is all over the web.
Here's another;
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/religious-right-now/post/terrorist-responsible-for-norway-attacks-is-not-a-christian/2011/07/28/gIQAblvyeI_blog.html

ironglow · « **Reply #116 on:** July 28, 2011, 07:26:32 AM »

Just had to check out some of your "conspiro-cretin" terminology, so I googled your term "judaeo-freemasonry" .
Here's what I found. It would be comical, except some innocent people are likely to suffer from maltreatment by the "conspiro-cretin" advocates.
But, here's some info on the term;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judeo-Masonic_conspiracy_theory

Incidently; the link I furnished explains some of the anti-semitic roots..especially documenting how the nazis used "judae-Freimaurerei" as a focus of their hate. From the link, see one of their posters below:

ironglow · « **Reply #117 on:** July 29, 2011, 04:59:37 AM »

TM;
You disarm your own argument..
First you try to say the guy is indeed a Christian..part of a Christian-Jewish- Masonic cabal.. Tthen you present a whole list of Christian churches which disagree vehemently with Freemasonry.

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billy_56081 · « **Reply #118 on:** July 29, 2011, 08:23:29 AM »

No need to argue if this fellow is Christian or not. What the muslim apologists seem to miss is that unlike the cult of islam, the Christians are nat celebrating and supporting this unlike the muslims.

ironglow · « **Reply #119 on:** July 29, 2011, 05:13:29 PM »

Come on Billy... didn't you see all the Christians dancing in the streets of Houston, Little Rock, Harrisburg and Salina Kansas after the Oslo killings ?
Just like the Muslims were doing in Gaza, Damascus, where they squat on the West Bank ..or even Tripoli..after the twin towers fell ?
Hmmm..guess I didn't see the Christians dancing then either..