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BFR ?
« on: July 22, 2011, 12:41:33 PM »
Finally got to handle one today. Dont see many around here. It was used .480/.475 7.5" barrel. It had a drag line around cylinder and cylinder didnt spin real well, a filthy bore so I couldnt tell much by looking in there ::) , also had the JT before the serial numbers. Gun shop was asking $750 + tax and background check fees. I passed on it. This seemed too high to me,was I right ? Seems my local shop is raising prices on everything.
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Re: BFR ?
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2011, 02:13:11 PM »
I like the BFR.  I have shot a number of them.  I used to do a show with a buddy that was the IMI rep.  We would get in a number of them.  45-70, 450 Marlin (this one scared me, but I did shoot it)  We found recoil with the 45-70 loads were opposite that of the rifle.  The 300 grain Factory JHP that is cracky in the rifle was fun to shoot out of the handgun and the 405 cowboy loads that are light recoil in a carbine were a wrist twister.  The 450 Marling is basically a 458 Win Mag special (I knowe the belt is thicker so the gun will not shoot a 458 my mistake)   The 30-30 makes sense to me.  Good use of the cylinder, power and recoil.
I find the 475 / 480 and the 454 Casull a waste of space.  Even the 500 Smith has room to grow in the 45-70 length cylinder.   Why have a cylinder with that much freeboard.  If you want a BFR I would look for a 45-70 or 30-30.  If you want a 475 / 480 and a single action I would look at another brand.
OH the show was a tourgure test and the 45-70's held up great.  After a day of constant 500 S&W loads the screw holding the ejector rod housing broke.  But again it was a full day of people wanting to shoot the big boys.  We removed the rod and the housing and still shot the gun for another day.  About 1,000 rounds a day of the 500 S&W.  We had a package special where you got to shoot the 50 AE desert eagle, the 500 S&W and the 45-70 BFR and the 450 Marlin Guide gun.  We had two people loading guns all day and a line of people 10 deep all day long to shoot the package.

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Re: BFR ?
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2011, 03:04:02 PM »
Ummm the BFR's have two different frame and cylinder sizes. Not sure what you mean about too much free board and waste of space ?
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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2011, 10:53:50 AM »
Yea, I wondered about that too!
 
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Re: BFR ?
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2011, 11:07:13 AM »
When the 500 S&W test guns showed up at the show they were on the same frame as the 45-70.
may have been changed since then.
If they are on a pistol caliber frame then get one they are a will made gun.

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Re: BFR ?
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2011, 11:48:35 AM »
The .475 and .454 (and .500 JRH) have always been on the smaller frame. The .500 S&W is on the long frame, along with the rifle calibers.

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Re: BFR ?
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2011, 02:34:21 PM »
When the 500 S&W test guns showed up at the show they were on the same frame as the 45-70.
may have been changed since then.
If they are on a pistol caliber frame then get one they are a will made gun.
Yes Sir, but you said the 480/475 and 454 were a waste of space. Not looking to argue just wondering why you feel that way because they seem to be very popular chamberings for many gun makers and shooters. Anyways I think new BFR's go for 850-900 so this one wasnt worth 750+ IMO.
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Re: BFR ?
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2011, 07:46:27 PM »
Ratgunner, you did good by passing on it, that is high for a used BFR.. I see them for $600 used all the time.  I can get a new one just under $800..
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Re: BFR ?
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2011, 05:35:53 AM »
I've never seen a used one, so I don't have any idea what they go for. However two months ago I saw a brand new one at a gunshop for $730.00.

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Re: BFR ?
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2011, 07:11:45 AM »
yes the 500's are in the same cylinder length as the 45/70.  this does not harm their accuracy, they are very accurate.
 
the 454/475 are on the smaller cylinder and they are still a longer cylinder than rugers and FA but this is good, they handle bigger bullets well.  all are very accurate
 
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Re: BFR ?
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2011, 02:41:41 PM »
I'm another admirer of BFRs. Just, don't own one at present but, would love to someday.
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