Theirs as lot of discussions on those factory targets, I don't believe them and how can a Co guarantee a 1" group when some people are not capable of that. I bought mine used for $200.00 so I can afford to drop another $100.00 fer a Timney. I have had some Winchester rifles that were not to acc and they kicked the bejeebers out of me, got rid of all but one kept it cause it is a tack driver but it kicks worse that that Vanguard, but of course I want egg in my beer