Author Topic: So..about "Remarlin" (Read 2802 times)

Poopers · « **on:** July 31, 2011, 06:34:58 AM »

Does anyone know if Remington has finally ironed out their Marlin quality control kinks? I have been wanting an 1895 for awhile but Im concerned about getting a lemon. Boy do I wish I had gotten one years ago when Marlin was Marlin!

yukondog · « **Reply #1 on:** July 31, 2011, 03:11:40 PM »

From the quality I'm seeing in stores I'd have to say no.

Swampman · « **Reply #2 on:** August 02, 2011, 04:20:13 AM »

Current production is about as good as Marlin had produced for the last 10 years.

Huffmanite · « **Reply #3 on:** August 09, 2011, 12:28:51 PM »

I wish I had a bore scope. Bought a Marlin XL 7 in 25-06, well before Remington takeover and I was immediately pleased with it. Accuracy was quite good out of the box. Recently bought a Marlin .308 heavy barrel varmit rifle, their newest addition to the XL/XS line of rifles.

While my new Marlin is showing promise of being a good shooter, its not performing as well when it comes to accuracy as my first Marlin. As to why I wish I had a bore scope. Sure would like a good look in bore of the heavy barrel Marlin. After my first cleaning of bore when I brough it home from store I detected some rather rough rifling near muzzle. I've had the rifle to range 3 times now and fired over 60 rounds. Think the copper fouling is more than I've experienced with other new rifles.

Keith L · « **Reply #4 on:** August 09, 2011, 01:26:35 PM »

If you think you have a problem with rifling the folks to discuss it with are the Marlin Customer Service folks.

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #5 on:** August 11, 2011, 02:23:10 AM »

dont know if thats a good thing or a bad. Marlins went downhill even before reminton took over.

Quote from: Swampman on August 02, 2011, 04:20:13 AM

Current production is about as good as Marlin had produced for the last 10 years.

Swampman · « **Reply #6 on:** August 11, 2011, 03:44:40 AM »

Quote from: Lloyd Smale on August 11, 2011, 02:23:10 AM

dont know if thats a good thing or a bad. Marlins went downhill even before reminton took over.
Quote from: Swampman on August 02, 2011, 04:20:13 AM
Current production is about as good as Marlin had produced for the last 10 years.

I agree the last 10 years of Marlin production weren't so hot.

1895gunner · « **Reply #7 on:** August 14, 2011, 05:15:00 AM »

There is a new thread running at MarlinOwners that announced yesterday that Remington has shut down all lever manufacturing for the rest of 2011 until they can get their quality issues worked out. Some are speculating it is the end of the Marlin Lever gun. There are others that said it was over the day they closed the New Haven facility, maybe a few months prior to.....

The only thing I know for sure is that I would NEVER buy a Marlin lever built past 2009.

1895gunner

Swampman · « **Reply #8 on:** August 14, 2011, 08:05:43 AM »

Yea, the sour grapes get pretty old. Marlin will be back and better than ever.

Norseman · « **Reply #9 on:** August 15, 2011, 12:00:39 PM »

Whats with all the internet stuff about Marlin and their plant closing down, and they laid off/fired their employees who didn't have a clue. They plan on moving their plant to who knows were. Google it! What is going on with the American gun manufacturers? It was bad enough Winchester stopped making American made lever action rifles. I just hope the parent companies know what they are doing. If there is a Quality Assurance thing, why move? Rectify the problem. I can't believe it!

Swampman · « **Reply #10 on:** August 15, 2011, 12:03:22 PM »

The Marlin plant isn't moving. The employees aren't being laid off.

pastorp · « **Reply #11 on:** August 20, 2011, 05:47:45 PM »

No Marlin isn't moving their plant. I just read today That John Taffin reported that Marlin was closing their doors....

Looks like it's over for marlin even under Remingtons cover. You see Remington is not owned by the old remington either. Their both owned by the same holding company.

Regards,

Swampman · « **Reply #12 on:** August 21, 2011, 08:33:42 AM »

John Taffin is wrong...Marlin production is still going strong. Remington owns Marlin. Remington is owned by private American investors.

Steelbanger · « **Reply #13 on:** August 21, 2011, 08:48:51 AM »

There hasn't been a Marlin rifle built in North Haven since mid-2010. All machinery was sent to Remington's facility in Illion, NY and new employees were hired to run the machinery. All of Marlin's trained employees in Connecticut were left go as the various machines were shipped out.

And, from what I've read, the new quality control is non-existent. So, They have stopped production for the remainder of 2011 hopefully clearing up the quality problem. Time will tell.

Swampman · « **Reply #14 on:** August 21, 2011, 03:51:49 PM »

That's posted all over but according to Ilion employees it isn't true.

pastorp · « **Reply #15 on:** August 21, 2011, 06:10:08 PM »

Please Explaine to us why we should believe you over John Taffin.

And the fact is that Remington dosen't really own Marlin, they Remington as well as Marlin are both owned by the same holding company. So who is really calling the shots?

Regards,

George Foster · « **Reply #16 on:** August 22, 2011, 01:51:03 AM »

Swampman, I would certainly like to hear from you what the employees in Illion are saying. I live one hour south of there and have been to the Rem plant a few times. I can tell you they don't have the craftsmen there they use to have and only about half the employees of old times. Also you can no longer call there and talk to anyone. So lets hear your information Swampman.

pastorp · « **Reply #17 on:** August 22, 2011, 02:08:52 AM »

George, Swampy is like the little boy that cried wolf so often that nobody belived him any longer....

Swampy has spouted his Remington reteric so long and made too many impossible claims about remington guns that I believe he no longer knows the truth from his lies.

Why would Swampy have a inside at Remington that no one else has? And even if he does, since remington dosen't own itself anymore why would that matter...Just my opinion.

Regards,

Swampman · « **Reply #18 on:** August 22, 2011, 05:52:29 AM »

I couldn't care less if you believe me. An employee inside the Ilion plants says they are just moving a few machines around to smooth out the work flow and that production hasn't stopped. Believe what you want. A gun writer gets paid to lie to you. I don't.

Once again, Remington bought Marlin and owns them. Remington is owned by a group of investors.

godale · « **Reply #19 on:** August 22, 2011, 04:11:35 PM »

all this could end by a public statement.

Swampman · « **Reply #20 on:** August 22, 2011, 04:12:30 PM »

They did on Facebook.

godale · « **Reply #21 on:** August 23, 2011, 12:19:33 PM »

in all reguards swampy they danced around the question.i aint calling you or a other forum member a liar.you have given good advice and info on your posts. but the fact is the employees are usually last to know.worked retail for years even when a other companies people came in and measured our store our company denied it.

Swampman · « **Reply #22 on:** August 23, 2011, 12:48:24 PM »

We have no reason to believe all the sour grapes being spread by former Marlin employees either. They are bitter, and want Marlin to fail. I don't...

Bossloper · « **Reply #23 on:** September 08, 2011, 01:49:00 PM »

This is what I know. I sent my 308mx in on 8/17/11 and I got her back on 9/6/11. They replaced my 91 serial number receiver with a MR serial numbered one. In the letter I sent in with it I asked if I could have a large loop lever installed, for which I would pay, but they put one on at no charge which I am very happy about. Three weeks was the turn around time. I know that many have had a much different experience, but I have nothing bad to say and would happily buy another Marlin product. The rifle is of the typical Marlin quality I am accustomed to, and it cycles ammo very cleanly. In fact, the action feels so slick, it's almost as though I am getting it back from sending it somewhere for an action job. I won't be able to shoot it until the weekend, but I have to say that all in all I am wicked excited with the rifle I got back and very happy overall with my whole experience.

godale · « **Reply #24 on:** September 08, 2011, 03:58:50 PM »

glad to hear you had a good experience. bought a stainless 22 from dicls last winter and it shoots great.

silverbuzzard · « **Reply #25 on:** October 30, 2011, 01:27:37 AM »

New marlins are junk
I just posted elsewhere here today regarding why.
Also was told by a top retail chain manager[ will not ID] that they recieved 10 marlins in the door from the plant and all had barrels "drooping" [308 338], they sent em all back

Also ,Walmart rep called Marlin /or wholesaler for me last month looking for a 1894. He was told Marlin stopped production because of"production problems" and are only making a couple guns a day in an effort to resolve the issue. Beware of them until they come clean and fix the issues.
In my recent experience with them I will say this.When a gun can leave a plant and a fired shell has to be pried from the chamber, that company not only has production problems they have severe liability issues.

Mulegunner · « **Reply #26 on:** December 17, 2011, 11:21:19 AM »

I know this is a kind of aging topic but, I just purchased a Marlin 336C with the new Remington serial numbers and it fires and functions great. The wood to metal fit is as good as quality as 10 years ago. The only thing that caught my eye was a missed spot on the forearm finish....but a couple drops of oil rubbed it out. Shooting groups touching each other at 50 yards with the factory iron sights. Two years ago I picked up a new 1894 in .44 mag and cycling rounds was like trying to break the lever off. But that was an exception....previous marlins I owned ...all with the cross bolt safety functioned without flaw.

Just my personal experience with the Marlin Products.

Keith L · « **Reply #27 on:** December 17, 2011, 01:00:25 PM »

That is good to hear. I hope it is not one in a row that works.

cwlongshot · « **Reply #28 on:** December 17, 2011, 01:15:33 PM »

The North Haven Marlin Plant is 15 miles from where I sit. I have been in that factroy many times, I know many empolyees.
It was a terrible thing that happened to the employees and worse still to see that plant close down..

CW

Keith L · « **Reply #29 on:** December 18, 2011, 03:07:13 AM »

I hate to see any plant closing. At least these jobs stayed in the country. To many jobs wind up in the third world.

Lets hope that quality is there for Marlin and Remington. I have some of both and respect the brands.