Author Topic: Group buy-group pour, bronze 24 PDR Coehorn golf ball mortar (Read 27877 times)

Cannoneer · « **Reply #90 on:** August 15, 2011, 09:18:30 AM »

Gary, make mine straight; will you? Remember Master Dan's advice: It's a lot easier to perfect the wax pattern, than to have to correct the bronze product later.

RocklockI · « **Reply #91 on:** August 24, 2011, 02:47:06 PM »

On the way up to Montana Mike ,Tracy and I took a side trip to Caleco Foundery in Cody Wy.

I gave them the two mortar waxes . Mat who is the owners son was very excited about this project .

One wax (the crash test dummy) will be cast first to check on shrinkage and their general abilities , the foundery looked very good . It is interesting to see differant foundries , they all do it a little differant .

Gary

DaveSB · « **Reply #92 on:** August 25, 2011, 04:09:18 AM »

that's great Gary, they expect to pour a test mortar in the next week or so?

flagman1776 · « **Reply #93 on:** August 25, 2011, 05:03:43 AM »

RocklockI · « **Reply #94 on:** August 25, 2011, 07:27:05 AM »

Quote from: DaveSB on August 25, 2011, 04:09:18 AM

that's great Gary, they expect to pour a test mortar in the next week or so?

DaveSB, I am not sure when ,but they were going to expidite it .

I would like to know about how many folks may want one of these ? The reason is because they and I going to offer them to the GBO board members first .

These will be at the rate of nothing for me .

After ...x number are made my compensation will be figured in

Marking have yet to be determined .

your pattern maker to the stars

Gary

Zulu · « **Reply #95 on:** August 25, 2011, 07:35:59 AM »

Quote from: RocklockI on August 25, 2011, 07:27:05 AM

Quote from: DaveSB on August 25, 2011, 04:09:18 AM
that's great Gary, they expect to pour a test mortar in the next week or so?

DaveSB, I am not sure when ,but they were going to expidite it .

I would like to know about how many folks may want one of these ? The reason is because they and I going to offer them to the GBO board members first .

These will be at the rate of nothing for me .

After ...x number are made my compensation will be figured in

Marking have yet to be determined .

your pattern maker to the stars Gary

Gary Big Head,
Do I forsee a new reality show in the making?
Zulu

DaveSB · « **Reply #96 on:** August 25, 2011, 09:33:56 AM »

Quote from: RocklockI on August 25, 2011, 07:27:05 AM

Quote from: DaveSB on August 25, 2011, 04:09:18 AM
that's great Gary, they expect to pour a test mortar in the next week or so?

DaveSB, I am not sure when ,but they were going to expidite it .

I would like to know about how many folks may want one of these ? The reason is because they and I going to offer them to the GBO board members first .

These will be at the rate of nothing for me .

After ...x number are made my compensation will be figured in

Marking have yet to be determined .

your pattern maker to the stars Gary

Very neat sir, thanks again. I think another poll for serious interest is in order. However, I do believe price will be a determining factor for most people. If there was a way you could get an approx. (within $50-75) for a price point, it would help potential buyers commit to this idea.

Spuddy · « **Reply #97 on:** August 25, 2011, 11:34:30 AM »

Put me down for one Gary.

carmy53 · « **Reply #98 on:** August 25, 2011, 12:13:11 PM »

Quote from: DaveSB on August 25, 2011, 09:33:56 AM

Quote from: RocklockI on August 25, 2011, 07:27:05 AM
Quote from: DaveSB on August 25, 2011, 04:09:18 AM
that's great Gary, they expect to pour a test mortar in the next week or so?

DaveSB, I am not sure when ,but they were going to expidite it .

I would like to know about how many folks may want one of these ? The reason is because they and I going to offer them to the GBO board members first .

These will be at the rate of nothing for me .

After ...x number are made my compensation will be figured in

Marking have yet to be determined .

your pattern maker to the stars Gary

Very neat sir, thanks again. I think another poll for serious interest is in order. However, I do believe price will be a determining factor for most people. If there was a way you could get an approx. (within $50-75) for a price point, it would help potential buyers commit to this idea.

+1 on an approximate price before commiting.

1swampthing · « **Reply #99 on:** August 26, 2011, 04:15:13 AM »

I would like to be included as a strong maybe depending on price

Incitatus · « **Reply #100 on:** August 26, 2011, 05:52:09 AM »

I'd like it as fully finished as possible. The metal I mean. I'd also like a larger size, if possible.

Mike H. · « **Reply #101 on:** August 26, 2011, 07:03:24 AM »

Depending on cost, most likely a yes.

flagman1776 · « **Reply #102 on:** August 26, 2011, 07:14:17 AM »

NinjaToes · « **Reply #103 on:** August 26, 2011, 10:09:55 AM »

Count me in for a fully finished one also

Mike_60 · « **Reply #104 on:** August 27, 2011, 12:16:37 PM »

I would be very interested in one, or more, depending on the price. The only thing I can't do is the work required on the bore, to true up that is, but everything else isn't a problem for me.

DaveSB · « **Reply #105 on:** September 15, 2011, 11:13:44 AM »

where are we at on this?

gunsonwheels · « **Reply #106 on:** September 15, 2011, 11:25:52 AM »

DD:

I am in Cody at least once a week. Would you like me to swing by, get to know a few names and faces and then occasionally swing by and check status?

George

1Southpaw · « **Reply #107 on:** September 15, 2011, 12:24:21 PM »

1 for me . how ever it may be. :>)

OoooOOoo1010010 · « **Reply #108 on:** September 15, 2011, 02:00:49 PM »

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Shortwave5 · « **Reply #109 on:** September 15, 2011, 07:45:33 PM »

I am interested, price dependent.

RocklockI · « **Reply #110 on:** September 16, 2011, 03:05:10 PM »

Where are we ? We are waiting for the first piece to be cast . I talked to the foundery yesterday and ......"it should be poured on Mon." I have heard this a couple of times already so we will see .

When I learn anything more I will let you guys know .

Gary

gunsonwheels · « **Reply #111 on:** September 16, 2011, 05:03:38 PM »

Jeepers... every Monday morning I have to run my daughter into Cody...

DaveSB · « **Reply #112 on:** September 17, 2011, 04:24:21 PM »

I figued you would let us know Gary, but you can imagine our excitement

or at least mine.. I have a hard time not saying, is it done yet?! is it done yet?! hahaha

flagman1776 · « **Reply #113 on:** September 17, 2011, 04:40:31 PM »

delete

RocklockI · « **Reply #114 on:** September 21, 2011, 02:49:32 PM »

Today I called the foundery to see whats been going on . I was told that the first mortar was cast on Mon.

Unfortunatly they cracked the investment and where unable to fix it very well . SO this piece maybe ok for measuring but maybe not much else

. This does not bode well .

I'll know more when it gets to my house .

Gary

KABAR2 · « **Reply #115 on:** September 21, 2011, 03:46:55 PM »

By Cracked the investment... you mean while it was still hot?

keith44 · « **Reply #116 on:** September 21, 2011, 09:41:01 PM »

further proof that craftsmanship of any kind is an art, not science (says he who is a practicioner of a different craft)

RocklockI · « **Reply #117 on:** September 23, 2011, 06:32:39 AM »

The crack occurred during the burn out of the investment . I was told two days ago it has been cast but the crack is/was still visable . It was reworked and is now on it's way to my home in Longmont .

To a commercial foundry it is a science ,a recipe. Not too much art other than the spruing.

The art with bronze is the artists wax not so much the casting . Things do go wrong and I've seen the scrap on ocasions.

I've dealt with two other founderies on many occasions with no similar issues . I will look at the test piece and make some decisions .

Gary

flagman1776 · « **Reply #118 on:** September 23, 2011, 08:30:16 AM »

RocklockI · « **Reply #119 on:** September 24, 2011, 05:31:34 PM »

Yes I did recieve the bronze yesterday .

The color looks real nice , but there are issues .

First I do not want to be heard as Caleeco foundery is in any way infereor to any other foundery .

The founderies are all 'art founderies' meaning they cast thin panels to be welded together and they all make a hollow horse . A slip here and there are no issue as the maine can be whipping this way or that ,a missing hair means nothing .

Most shy away from anything with any bulk to it . Having said that at least they tried .
Here are some photos of their work .

Here is the hemispherical ball seat ,it has been battered by something ?

The chamber has been beaten out of round .

Another pic of the battering . I suspect they did it in an effort to dislodge investment but I was told nothing of it by the foundery .

This is the dolfin ,the top dorsel fin was standing up shark style now it is a 'horn' coming out of it's back having been mashed B4 investing . This is way over the top .

Hear you can see the trunions . THIS PIECE WAS SENT TO ME AS 'READY TO SELL'
Unfortunatly they are two differant lengths both are cocked as in this pic .

This flaw is a crack that has been reworked and buffed out from trunion to muzzle !

Here is some kind of rework to the inside of the muzzle ,I don't have a clue why . It actualy has a rolled over burr on the bore .

This is a rework of a crack in the investment . It has been ground down with a grinder on the trunion and the crack is visable up to the first barrel band .

As you may have gathered this is not what I would sell to anyone .
The GOOD news is I now know what the shrinkages are . I am going to pay the money I am being charged for it and I will keep it.

I am going to talk to my local foundery and see if there is any interest in this ....project .
Gary

I will ask for the Master 24lb wax back .

Poll

I would buy...

Author Topic: Group buy-group pour, bronze 24 PDR Coehorn golf ball mortar (Read 27877 times)