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Offline DC

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Remmington SPS 308 Review
« on: August 08, 2011, 06:40:58 PM »
I bought a Rem SPS 20" Tactical, w/o the threaded barrel.  I started the break in with Rem. UMC white/green box 150s not expecting much.  I did the usual shoot 3-4 and clean etc.  At about 15 rounds things got better!
I moved the target back from about 50 yards to 100 and changed to Federal 180 Gr. soft points.  After allowing for the bullet weight and the additional recoil, I thought I was seeing things.  I shot a group around .33" and another at .50.  After letting the barrel cool, I went back to the cheapie 150 gr. Rem. UMC's and after getting it together with my trigger pull, I shot another .5 or less group with cheap ammo. 
Needless to say, I am very pleased. The trigger is virtually w/o creep and breaks cleanly and can be adusted down a bit which I will do.  The Nikon Monarch 5-20 is perfect for the rifle and I am believer in what a short barreled rifle can do. 
I should mention that it shot almost as well at 200 yards.  I had one group with good ammo just under an inch.  200 yard was the limit at the quarry but what the rifle did on a hot day, over a truck hood was phenominal!
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Re: Remmington SPS 308 Review
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2011, 07:28:07 PM »
Good first impression of the SPS DC.
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Re: Remmington SPS 308 Review
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2011, 07:02:33 PM »
Try some good hand loads and it will blow your mind.
Mine shoots tiny groups with 165 gr Nosler Ballistic Tip BTs.  These rifles seem to prefer heavier bullets even with a 1:12 twist.
The chamber is a bit long in the throat I'm guessing that the heavier bullets shrink the bullet jump and help with accuracy
I really like the rifle but the Hogue stock had to go away all most immediately, It was very comfortable but way to flimsy on the forend.
My trigger pull got heavier with use I started out with an adjusted weight of 2 lbs and it kept gaining on me back up around 3  1/2 lbs. ???
 It did that twice so I replaced it with a Timney at pound and a half that's a sweet trigger.

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Re: Remmington SPS 308 Review
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2011, 07:42:09 AM »
Try some good hand loads and it will blow your mind.
Mine shoots tiny groups with 165 gr Nosler Ballistic Tip BTs.  These rifles seem to prefer heavier bullets even with a 1:12 twist.
The chamber is a bit long in the throat I'm guessing that the heavier bullets shrink the bullet jump and help with accuracy
I really like the rifle but the Hogue stock had to go away all most immediately, It was very comfortable but way to flimsy on the forend.
My trigger pull got heavier with use I started out with an adjusted weight of 2 lbs and it kept gaining on me back up around 3  1/2 lbs. ???
 It did that twice so I replaced it with a Timney at pound and a half that's a sweet trigger.

Pat

So after you spent the money on a new stock then a trigger , I would not say this was such a great buy .Then I see many guys south of us (Canada ) not happy unless you can take a firearm apart once you get it home . Why then not start with a Savage or a Marlin bolt and go from there . Probably spend less money in the end .
That is why I have more than one tikka on the box . Only thing to do with these rifles was install a mount and scope and then site it in at the range .
I hate having to spend the money then having to fix it when I get  home .
 
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Re: Remmington SPS 308 Review
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2011, 07:53:56 AM »
Because Savage and Marlin boltguns are junk.  They have junk triggers right from the factory.  The same goes for the all plastic Tikka.  Remington triggers are easy to adjust.
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Re: Remmington SPS 308 Review
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2011, 08:33:36 AM »
My rifle shot 1/2 MOA out of the box it is now shoots well below that.
There are no production rifles that can't be improved. I actually have less money in my rifle than you would believe  about $750.00.
That's a lot less than a custom which may not even shoot as well. I'd call it money well spent.
The 700 Remington is like the small block Chevy of guns. Parts are really very available and reasonably priced.
But more money will be spent on my rifles for accuracy improvements as and when I see fit.
Some folks are happy with out of the box performance. I'm not one of them ;)
In fact I've been told that I'm never happy ;D

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Re: Remmington SPS 308 Review
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2011, 08:57:59 AM »
I am happy with the performace with my SPC so far as I said.  I have looked at the Bell & Carlson Tactical adustable stock as a "wish" sort of thing but the Hogue that is standard is workable if not a perfect fit.  I see not reason with my rifle for new trigger.  The new and improved tiggers on the SPS are really nice IMHO.  The only thing that I may consider is a Wyatt DM set up for $260 in a 10 round configuration. 
If fact if anyone has any experience with after market DM conversions, I sure would like to hear about them.
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Re: Remmington SPS 308 Review
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2011, 11:04:25 AM »
Current Remington triggers are also JUNK. I now have three with the latest X Mark Pro and not a single one of them will adjust below 4 pounds even if you take the screw completely out. In fact the latest one I bought came with the screw so far out it really wasn't touching and still had a four pound trigger. I played with it moving it all over the place and I was easily able to make it 8 pounds but no way was it going below 4 pounds.

Remington had a good trigger then they changed it to the X Mark and I actually felt it an improvement. Then they too three giant steps backward with the X Mark Pro. I will either get replacement triggers or get rid of the rifles with the X Mark Pro. I just have to decide which.


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Re: Remmington SPS 308 Review
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2011, 11:18:15 AM »
Because Savage and Marlin boltguns are junk.  They have junk triggers right from the factory.  The same goes for the all plastic Tikka.  Remington triggers are easy to adjust.

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Swamp Welcome back !!! Of course your opinion is just that!! YOURS
Was it not long ago when you claimed the only  problem with remington triggers going off unexpectly was- because of the guys playing with them at home and not knowing what they were going ?And you say they are easy to adjust !!! .
 
I think it it might be a thought to buy a remington bolted action ,and build from there .
 
 
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Re: Remmington SPS 308 Review
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2011, 02:35:11 PM »
Many don't know how to safely adjust a trigger.
My X-Mark Pro 1st gen and 2nd gen triggers adjust down to 2 lbs and stay there.  I like them fine.
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Re: Remmington SPS 308 Review
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2011, 03:24:36 PM »
We are all so happy for you Swampy.... ::)
 
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Re: Remmington SPS 308 Review
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2011, 03:44:17 PM »
The X Mark PRO trigger on my rifle varied in pull weight and actually would get heavier with use.
I wont proclaim them all junk because I have not fired and tested them all, but mine most definitely was. Your mileage may vary.

DC the Hogue stock is workable but it does not like a bi-pod or any type front rests that holds the rifle past the midway point of the forearm.
That being said even  when resting forward on the stock groups were not terrible they were just always larger. Usually from 1/4 - 3/8 of an inch larger.
I found that just the weight of the rifle resting on the forend of the stock was enough to have the stock make contact with the barrel.
I don't have experience with any thing other than factory bottom metal which works well for my use. But I like to read and keep up with the latest trends.
So far from what I have read the 2 biggest complaints with the Wyatt DBM system are the proprietary mags. And the mag release being inadvertently operated when trying to access the bolt release? Which must be some kind of tacticool fuss because when ever I pull the bolt on one I just dump the mag first.

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Re: Remmington SPS 308 Review
« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2011, 08:07:25 PM »
I've been pretty impressed by a couple of the Mossberg 4x4 rifles a couple friends have picked up.  One is 270 and shot 1/2 moa out of the box.  Lotta features including muzzle brake and such for a decent price.  They are also the only company that I've seen that has models with regular iron sights available in non-African loadings.  The guy with the 270 did nothing to his and took a nice 10pt buck at 300+ yards last season.  Might take a look.  ;)
 
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