White House Sends $105 Million to Africa

[lgm270]

Americans are laying off police, fire and school teachers, but our wonderful leader has come up with $105 million for Africa.   I hope all of you remember to file your tax returns and pay your taxes because Africans need your money more than you do.


http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_OBAMA_EAST_AFRICA_FAMINE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-08-08-15-41-31

[magooch]

Yup, and what's even worse is that we're sending it to feed those heathens in Somalia. 

[lakota]

A local talk show host has a good idea yesterday. When the government wants to send money off to some arm-pit they should have to set up a 800 number and ask for donations. What ever they collect from donations is all they are allowed to send. If they only raise 5 bucks for Somalia then they only send 5 bucks.

[BUGEYE]

this is his indirect way of funding his terrorist buddies.  the terrorists have said that not one penny will get to people that need it.

[powderman]

this is his indirect way of funding his terrorist buddies.  the terrorists have said that not one penny will get to people that need it.

 
YEP. The above link showed nothing, heres a link to the somalia giveaway. POWDERMAN. 
 

 

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AF_EAST_AFRICA_FAMINE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-08-08-10-58-31
 
 
Shucks, it didn't show anything either. POWDERMAN. 

[Bigeasy]

Yep, let all them starving people, mostly kids, just die and go away.....It's the Christian thing to do....
 
Larry

[lakota]

Or we could just keep borrowing money and piling onto the ever spiraling out of control debt, while neglecting our own country's needs, all so we can continue to send foreign aid all over the world.

[yellowtail3]

Americans are laying off police, fire and school teachers, but our wonderful leader has come up with $105 million for Africa.   

What is the money for - feeding starving people? If that's the case... seems to me like a pretty good use of 105mil. Seems like a very good use of that money. Charity, helping those in life-and-death extremis? I can live with that.

[Hooker]

Charity begins at home.
Charity given to those who will not help them selves is immoral.
Being charitable with money that does not belong to you is theft.
This has nothing to do with charity,but it has every thing to do with money.
Most of this money will wind up in the pockets of administrative entities or persons whom have supported the federal scum in power .
If you feel this a worthy charity to support take the money from your own pocket and send it to them and God bless you for it.
The government has no moral or legal ground to be charitable with the peoples money.

Pat

[BUGEYE]

Charity begins at home.
Charity given to those who will not help them selves is immoral.
Being charitable with money that does not belong to you is theft.
This has nothing to do with charity,but it has every thing to do with money.
Most of this money will wind up in the pockets of administrative entities or persons whom have supported the federal scum in power .
If you feel this a worthy charity to support take the money from your own pocket and send it to them and God bless you for it.
The government has no moral or legal ground to be charitable with the peoples money.

Pat

this is why I withhold part of the money that I used to give to the church. now I give directly to the family that needs it.   I'm not against helping hungry people anywhere, but when islam says they'll steal it before it gets there,  all you are doing is funding terrorists.

[gr8ful]

Does anyone remember Operation Restore Hope In 1992?  I do.  Any aid sent to Somolia will be stolen by the thug terrorist warlords to feed and supply thier personal armys.  The UN and other international aid agencies (EX. Feed The Children, World Food Program) have sent BILLIONs in aid and it has all been stolen and the people still starve.  These people have been sitting in refugee camps for 20 years, starving, yet the birth rate in the Somali refugee camps in Kenya is twice the rate for the rest of Africa. Keep our money at home until our fiscal house is in order.

[guzzijohn]

Man, there are some cold people on this board. Until it is proven to me that most of that money did not go toward relief I think it was very well spent. Sure as hell beats the money being spent on the so called war on drugs to name just one thing. Those of you that don't think the government should send any money, how much is your church donating? Mennonites Churches USA is organizing a huge relief push for this terrible famine. Getting our county into fiscal order DOES NOT COME FIRST when innocents, especially children are dying by the hundreds of thousands.
GuzziJohn

[BUGEYE]

guzzijohn, watch the news.  all that relief is being stolen by muslim terrorists.   we need to help those starving people, but only after we have killed ALL of the terrorists.

[jimster]

Man, there are some cold people on this board. Until it is proven to me that most of that money did not go toward relief I think it was very well spent.

Actually the United States of America has NO money...we are in deep debt....so I don't think it matter what anyone thinks, good or bad, the money is not there. This is the main problem of all the progressive socialists...they use their feelings and not a calculator.
Money well spent...what money?  If you don't have any money you simply can't spend it...end of story, end of debate.  Being called cold, being called "all caring"...what the hell is the difference if there is no money at all?  And to compare a church giving "real" money to a government spending money that is not theirs and nonexistent...is outrageous, and the reason our country is in the crap can...socialists can't even tell the difference between who has money and who doesn't, and where it comes from. There is no excuse for this kind of ignorance and politics.  Church has nothing to do with government.  Church does it right...government is all wrong.  How nice to compare government and church when it suits your argument...any other time.."separation"...of course.  But hey, when it comes to spending other people's money you don't have...bring government and Church together as one.  What a crock of crap...in my opinion.  I'm apologize for blowing some steam, but I have not read anything so outrageous in a very long time. 
 

[BUGEYE]

jimster, you're holding back again. tell us how you really feel.

[jimster]

jimster, you're holding back again. tell us how you really feel.

I can't...there are rules.  I should also say it's not true about not reading something so outrageous for a long time...Junior posted something recently...sorry for the error.   
 

[guzzijohn]

So jimster, are you and your church doing anything to help using "real" money?
GuzziJohn

[lakota]

Just think about how far all the foreign aid money spent would go in assuring that Social Security remains solvent and providing healthcare for uninsured people here...but no lets ship it off do a bunch of people who would just as soon slice our throats rather than say "thank you"

[guzzijohn]

If the US has no money why are millions still being spent on the useless the drug war? If we have no money how do police departments get the funds to become para military units? If we have no money why do we spend millions on flight demonstrations by the Thunderbirds and the Blue Angels? If we have no money why are we spending millions putting people in prison for minor drug possession? If we have no money why are we spending 450 million for an alternative engine on the F-35 strike fighter? Why does the latest version of the defense bill contain $1.7 billion for an extra destroyer the Defense Department did not request and $2.5 billion for 10 C-17 cargo planes it did not want, at the behest of lawmakers representing the states where those items would be built? Should I continue?
GuzziJohn

[BUGEYE]

So jimster, are you and your church doing anything to help using "real" money?
GuzziJohn

I don't think God wants us to send money to terrorists.   after we have killed all the terrorists I'll gladly chip in to help those people who need it.
why do some people keep trying to "GET" Christians?

[lakota]

If the US has no money why are millions still being spent on the useless the drug war? If we have no money how do police departments get the funds to become para military units? If we have no money why do we spend millions on flight demonstrations by the Thunderbirds and the Blue Angels? If we have no money why are we spending millions putting people in prison for minor drug possession? If we have no money why are we spending 450 million for an alternative engine on the F-35 strike fighter? Why does the latest version of the defense bill contain $1.7 billion for an extra destroyer the Defense Department did not request and $2.5 billion for 10 C-17 cargo planes it did not want, at the behest of lawmakers representing the states where those items would be built? Should I continue?
GuzziJohn

You wont get any answers from me because I wonder about these same things. I have always wondered how much cash is being burned by useless flight demo teams. Is it cool to watch? I would say yes. Is it a nessecity especially when the country is damn near bankrupt? that would have to be a resounding no from me.
Why do we even need the F-35 let alone an alternative engine?

[eye shot]

Send no money, let Mother Nature run her course.

[guzzijohn]

Quote from Bugeye:
why do some people keep trying to "GET" Christians?

Uh? I just stated what my church is doing if we do not want government involvement. I just asked jimster what his church is doing, it may be nothing or it may be a lot.
GuzziJohn

[jimster]

So jimster, are you and your church doing anything to help using "real" money?
GuzziJohn

That is none of your business sir....nor does it have any bearing on what you think a government should do...that question is way out of line.
You sir...can wrap up some of your money and send it anywhere you like, or sell off some of your land and give that money to who you wish, but it is not right for you to offer other peoples money using government as tool.....being a socialist/progressive, this would be mighty hard for you to stop offering other people's money that  the government does not have, but please try, your kind has offered quite enough of other people's money using government as your tool.  Comparing it to a church is the ultimate hypocrisy...please spare me the "what would Jesus do" line as well...I have a feeling he can see through this bull crap and would want everyone to be wise with money, especially other peoples money.  He would not spend anything he did not have to spend.  Period. 
 
And no...I don't need to know who you send your money to at all.  Not my business.   Pointing a finger at me does not change your ideology which has pretty much proven to be a colossal failure in every country ever tried...including this one. 
 
If you do want to help another country..best way is to go there, or find a way to get money to a safer place, EVERYONE knows any money "govenment" sends won't go where you want it...everyone knows this...so I imagine your emotions drive you to spend money you don't have (and is NOT YOURS)  even though you know it won't work.  Those are huge issues to have...
 
Forget me...I'm not your problem. 
 

[gypsyman]

Guzzi, our church has build several wells in Africa. Just our church!! Give that money to ANY govt. so called agency, and I'll bet that it would be spent on some (censored word) bureaucrat doing a study on where the money should be spent. Really p**** me off, was when I watched a news program when Haiti was getting relief. Showed a couple of the local men, throwing down women and kids, so they could get to the food first. They want to act like animals, let 'em starve. So many of those country's could have so much, but the people don't have the brains or work ethic to get off their lazy butts. These aid programs have been going on for what, 40 to 50 years. Hell, we had Marine's in Haiti back in the turn of the last century, 1910 or so.How long do we help before they finally help themselves. Answer-never. They'll always want a handout. No different than alot of the blacks in this country. Gravy train is coming to a close. Buckweat-in-charge coming up with this money. Probably came from his ''stash money''. gypsyman

[wreckhog]

this is his indirect way of funding his terrorist buddies.  the terrorists have said that not one penny will get to people that need it.

How do you explain the billions he has sent to Israel?

[jimster]

If the US has no money why are millions still being spent on the useless the drug war? If we have no money how do police departments get the funds to become para military units? If we have no money why do we spend millions on flight demonstrations by the Thunderbirds and the Blue Angels? If we have no money why are we spending millions putting people in prison for minor drug possession? If we have no money why are we spending 450 million for an alternative engine on the F-35 strike fighter? Why does the latest version of the defense bill contain $1.7 billion for an extra destroyer the Defense Department did not request and $2.5 billion for 10 C-17 cargo planes it did not want, at the behest of lawmakers representing the states where those items would be built? Should I continue?
GuzziJohn

You wont get any answers from me because I wonder about these same things. I have always wondered how much cash is being burned by useless flight demo teams. Is it cool to watch? I would say yes. Is it a nessecity especially when the country is damn near bankrupt? that would have to be a resounding no from me.
Why do we even need the F-35 let alone an alternative engine?

Our government has proven to be very corrupt, they can't even track the money we have sent to the Middle East, except to find a good amount goes where it should not.  Government is the last tool you need to actually help people.  If they are broke, there is no conversation needed at all anyway.  No money.  I personally like what John T. did...hop into his own plane and take food and water right there, nobody in the way...now that is real help.  Churches have money, and a lot better way to get it there, and many of them go there as well themselves.  That works. Less corruption. We certainly should not send money we don't have because we are spending money in other area's we don't have, that makes no logical sense at all...if it were up to me I'd shut it all down, the American people are out of money now, government has spent the next few decades at least on anything we can produce.  I don't think anyone here is asking if I am a Christian or not, I doubt anyone gives a toot...I do think the first thing that happens when you bring up a fact in an emotionally politically charged issue, a fingers get pointing pretty fast.  If I did this...sorry...I'm just poiting out out illogical it is for government to spend anything now, since they have none and are corrupt.  Does not make sense to be funding the office of pig oder at this time either, or the dept of energy that produces no energy, or the fed housing, since they build no houses, the NEA, since they don't teach...well, you get my drift...
 

[BUGEYE]

this is his indirect way of funding his terrorist buddies.  the terrorists have said that not one penny will get to people that need it.

How do you explain the billions he has sent to Israel?

how much has imam obama sent to Israel? he's let it be known that he hates them, so ask him.

gypsyman, good for your church. you're walking the walk.
my church sends a group deep into mexico every year where they build two little 2-room houses.
no bathroom just plain rooms and they raise 2 families up several notches in dwellings.

[yellowtail3]

If the US has no money why are millions still being spent on the useless the drug war?

Because there are a LOT of people who have a financial/professional interest in continuing this mis-begotten War on (some) Drugs.

If we have no money how do police departments get the funds to become para military units?

See entry above.

If we have no money why are we spending millions putting people in prison for minor drug possession?

See entry above.

If we have no money why are we spending 450 million for an alternative engine on the F-35 strike fighter? Why does the latest version of the defense bill contain $1.7 billion for an extra destroyer the Defense Department did not request and $2.5 billion for 10 C-17 cargo planes it did not want, at the behest of lawmakers representing the states where those items would be built?

Well, those interests all have money and lobbyists and congresscritters in their corners. The destroyer? A DAMNED JOBS PROGRAM.

Should I continue? GuzziJohn

No need; any with ears to hear should get the point. Others are willfully ignorant.

[powderman]

Lots of good posts guys. Money can't help those people. Fact is there are too many of them to ever be self sufficient. Individual help is great, but our govt has wasted too many billions on an almost hopeless situation. Too much graft and corruption, I doubt whether even 10 % of the money would ever be used for any useful purpose other than lining some warlords pocket. POWDERMAN.