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458 at auction arms
« on: August 16, 2011, 03:26:44 PM »
I found this at auction arms, its a 458. what perked my interest and made me contact the seller is the case hardened bracket screwed to the left side of the receiver. i asked him what the purpose is and he replied, 'its to strengthen the receiver'. omg.
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Re: 458 at auction arms
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2011, 03:29:21 PM »
Lets hope the buyer does some research before he shoots it :(
 
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Re: 458 at auction arms
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2011, 03:34:51 PM »
Somebody's gonna get hurt with that thing.
 
 
 
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Re: 458 at auction arms
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2011, 04:54:27 PM »
So that's how you strengthen an action, drill and tap holes in it!!!!....<><.... :o
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Re: 458 at auction arms
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2011, 05:57:56 PM »
did you ask if he shot it??


can you post a link?


i don't think  i would shoot it even  if i KNEW  it was safe
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Re: 458 at auction arms
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2011, 06:39:02 PM »
The world is full of dumbasses!
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Re: 458 at auction arms
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2011, 06:55:04 PM »
Who knows, maybe we could talk him into posting a video on YouTube.  ::)




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Re: 458 at auction arms
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2011, 08:37:30 PM »
I saw one like this at a gunshow in Hickory NC.  It was a 10 ga shotgun with a liner sweated in.  It too had the nice case hardened strengthening block on the side of the frame.  Asking price was a mere $450.  I told the guy I would rather shoot a hand grenade, he took grave exception to my comment.  He told me that people who didn't know what they were doing should stay shut up.  Hey, I'm just a lowly engineer, with a lot of experience in a metal failure analysis lab.  So I just shut up and kept walking.  And here is your Darwin Award, sir, if you ever try to shoot that thing.
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Re: 458 at auction arms
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2011, 10:57:56 PM »
If only H&R had known that a little plate and a couple of screws could have solved the problem of the Handi Magnums. And what a nice touch to case harden it.
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Re: 458 at auction arms
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2011, 11:59:20 PM »
Pete, I think it would look nice if you took out one of those strengthening screws and put in a nice saddle ring instead, cut the barrel to 15 inches and rechamber it to 50BMG.  It'd be a great one shot saddle gun.  If you decided to sell it, a nice touch would be to include preplanned funeral arrangements.

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Re: 458 at auction arms
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2011, 12:39:30 AM »
That Would Be a Darwin......Fail...What a meathead...hope no one buys and tries this thing...
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Re: 458 at auction arms
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2011, 02:29:21 AM »
I wish I had that stock set, before it gets all blood stained. :(
That just ain't right in so many ways. I almost want to buy that thing just to protect the unknowing.
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Re: 458 at auction arms
« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2011, 02:32:29 AM »
I see no reason to be afraid. As a reloader you could easily start with something very mild and work your way up if you wanted. The 458 2" or 458 American is the belted equivelant of the 45 70.  No I don't think I would try 458 magnum factory loads.
I  question the "gun smithing" but I am not going to run any calculations on the actions strength. The standard SB2 frame can take a whole lot. Unfortunately this isn't standard anymore.
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Re: 458 at auction arms
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2011, 03:05:45 AM »
We FINALLY have a Porfino frame to match up to the Porfino barrel. ;)
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Re: 458 at auction arms
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2011, 05:02:50 AM »
458 has considerably less back thrust than 500 s&w when loaded to full specs. My 500 works great of course I down load it.
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Re: 458 at auction arms
« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2011, 05:19:52 AM »
Quote from: olafhardtB on August 17, 2011, 05:02:50 AM
458 has considerably less back thrust than 500 s&w when loaded to full specs. My 500 works great of course I down load it.

 

Are you trying to say you think it would be alright to have a Handi in 458? ???
If that's the case... you're wrong.
 
 
 
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Re: 458 at auction arms
« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2011, 06:50:46 AM »
Quote from: olafhardtB on August 17, 2011, 05:02:50 AM
458 has considerably less back thrust than 500 s&w when loaded to full specs. My 500 works great of course I down load it.




that was  my first thought


no.....
458  handi = disaster  was my first thought
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Re: 458 at auction arms
« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2011, 06:52:00 AM »
They list the rifle as a Topper which appears to be a Model 158 or could be an SB1 which have a cast iron frame, certainly not made for any high pressure standard round, let alone a high pressure magnum round, that smith is a fool as is anyone that shoots a full pressure round in it!  ::)

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Re: 458 at auction arms
« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2011, 08:15:02 AM »
Can someone post a link to the site? I can't find it...
 
 
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Re: 458 at auction arms
« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2011, 08:49:28 AM »
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Re: 458 at auction arms
« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2011, 08:59:48 AM »
Quote from: geezer56 on August 16, 2011, 08:37:30 PM
I saw one like this at a gunshow in Hickory NC.  It was a 10 ga shotgun with a liner sweated in.  It too had the nice case hardened strengthening block on the side of the frame. 

Goodness gracious, it sounds like there are MORE THAN ONE of these around. :o   It would make a great conversation piece, don't you think?  That's all I would do, converse about it.....
 
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Re: 458 at auction arms
« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2011, 09:02:27 AM »
http://www.gunauction.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=10519214
 
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This H&R Topper was built by Bob Phillips. It comes with a Weaver scope. This 458 mag. is for the big gun purest. This custom built firearm is rather unique.
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Re: 458 at auction arms
« Reply #22 on: August 17, 2011, 09:03:43 AM »
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Re: 458 at auction arms
« Reply #23 on: August 17, 2011, 09:12:54 AM »
Yikes! Sounds like more of "Mary n' Red's" handi work.
 

 
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Re: 458 at auction arms
« Reply #24 on: August 17, 2011, 09:45:41 AM »
what  is to stop  a liberal or terrorist  from selling something like this ???


didn't  we ''spike''   some ammo for the  north Vietnamese  to demoralize them??


i hope the auction site will quietly police  themselves
before some one else  does
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Re: 458 at auction arms
« Reply #25 on: August 17, 2011, 10:19:34 AM »
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Re: 458 at auction arms
« Reply #26 on: August 17, 2011, 11:23:26 AM »
It's also built on a Topper frame.  It's that about the same strength as a SB1?  I'd ask the guy to test fire it with full power loads and provide 3 empty cases and a target with it.  :D

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Re: 458 at auction arms
« Reply #27 on: August 17, 2011, 12:23:53 PM »
Yup, either way it's a bomb....literally!  ::)

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Quote from: quickdtoo on August 17, 2011, 06:52:00 AM
They list the rifle as a Topper which appears to be a Model 158 or could be an SB1 which have a cast iron frame, certainly not made for any high pressure standard round, let alone a high pressure magnum round, that smith is a fool as is anyone that shoots a full pressure round in it!  ::)

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Re: 458 at auction arms
« Reply #28 on: August 17, 2011, 12:27:34 PM »
Quote from: OR-E-Gun Bill on August 17, 2011, 09:12:54 AM
Yikes! Sounds like more of "Mary n' Red's" handi work.
 

 
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I wonder if this fellow does Duracoating? ::)
 
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Re: 458 at auction arms
« Reply #29 on: August 17, 2011, 02:15:19 PM »
BB,
  He prolly does and doesn't charge much either. ;) :o




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