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Offline flatlander

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« on: January 05, 2004, 10:36:47 AM »
I have a buddy who has sustained some permanent nerve damage in his shooting hand from shooting too many big-kicking pistols and is needing to back off on recoil in his contenders/encores and retain enough power to continue hunting with them. He's trying to find out about the EA Brown JP/Howitzer brake. Yeah, he knows it is ugly and heavy on the front, but if it will allow him to continue shooting, he's willing to deal with it. Has anyone had any experience with these things? Do they work as well as advertised? He is considering putting one on a 308 or 7-08 in an encore.
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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2004, 11:12:41 AM »
:D I have a couple of JP muzzle brakes on 22-250 encore 15 inchers.  The do cut the recoil to almost nothing.  On the 22-250 to less than what I get out of a 22 LR contender.    The noise and muzzle blast is terrible.  I use them for Prairie dog hunting and its not a real problem out in the open with ear protection.   As long as you are behing the gun, the muzzle blast is not bad.  To the side and next to the shooter it is awful.  At the range no one can be at the stations to each side of you because of the blast hitting them.    I don't know about the larger calibers but would assume that they would work well but look out for the muzzle blast and noise.    Ed
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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2004, 01:04:40 PM »
Yeah, what Ed said. Unless your friend is going to use ear protection while hunting. Ask him if he want's to add hearing loss to his list of pemanent damages. Other than that, he should consider buying a barrel chambered for something with manageable recoil, "there are many" or perhaps learning to shoot with his other hand. :roll:
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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2004, 05:45:17 PM »
There are a couple gunsmiths out there that are making aluminum brakes. They don't add a lot of weight and don't look TOO bad on a stainless barrel, but like everyone said, muzzle blast and noise goes up MUCHO. Invest in a set of Walker game ears or something similar if you intend to take it into the hunting woods.
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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2004, 02:13:58 AM »
I have always hated muzzle breaks, BUT, I'm getting close to the 60 and my hands(both) hurt like hell.  I'm much afraid that my days w/ big boomers are very limited.  I'ved loved shooting the 45-70 for years and seeing this problem coming on, I purchased a S-14 Hunter barrel in 45-70.  Yes, with the same loads "recoil" is greatly reduced.  With this barrel the pistol doesn't jump off the bench, twisting in my hand going up over my head.  Guess where all this energy is directed?  You got it...straight back into my hand.  It took this old fool a little while to realize it, but this actually hurts worse.  Good shooting gloves and Pachmeyer Decelerater Gripper help, but it still hurts.  I've not fooled with any other type of break.
Worried But Still Shootin'.  Walt    :(
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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2004, 08:40:52 AM »
Don't confuse regular muzzle brakes with the JP muzzle brakes.  I have both kinds including magna ported, tc hunter brakes, and JP brakes.  The regular brakes including magna ported reduce the barrel jump but do put more noticable rearward pressure into the hand.    The large opening on the JP brakes and the way they direct the muzzle blast do reduce rearward recoil as well.   Resulting muzzle blast to the side and rear is much greater than the regular muzzle brakes.   Ed
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2004, 05:03:47 PM »
I was not sure about the rearward muzzle blast you talked about with the Brakes.

The JP brake that looks like a Howitzer brake is declared to virtually reduce most of the rearward recoil.  

Is the reward blast with that brake severe and noticable from behind the gun?

Your input is appreciated.

I, too, am way over 60 years old and my old elbow and hand are letting me know that enough is enough, but I can't quit.

Harold Clark
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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2004, 05:55:34 PM »
Harold,
  Wether the breaks ports direct staight side ways or back at an angle, a shockwave that is emitted at right angles to the muzzle will reach your ears in full force, and it is not enjoyable without ear protection.
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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2004, 01:42:53 AM »
Harold, my wife says i'll quit when the pain kills me or my hands fall off, which ever comes first.  And, I guess she's right.  Anyway it great to hear that these higher performance brakes work that well.  As for the blast.  When the range gets a little crowded or we get some obnoxious guests,  my shooting buddies suggest that I get "that thing" out and pop a few rounds.  Of course I wouldn't do that. HE HE  GOOD SHOOTIN,  Walt   :-D
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