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Offline clearwater

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Shot load in 357 maxi brass?
« on: August 29, 2011, 01:48:09 PM »
Anyone loaded shot into maxi brass? Thinking about grouse season running concurrent with deer season.

If so, how did you do it? Homemade wads? gas checks? size shot?

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Re: Shot load in 357 maxi brass?
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2011, 02:06:17 PM »
 Could you use Hot Shot capsules? Maybe down load it a little.
 
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Re: Shot load in 357 maxi brass?
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2011, 02:24:32 PM »
Wouldn't think it would be very effective.  The rifling causes the shot charge to spin and creates a doughnut shaped pattern.  Goatwhiskers the Elder

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Re: Shot load in 357 maxi brass?
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2011, 02:54:51 PM »
I hope you're more organized than I am (doesn't take much...). This one time I had taken shot shells and slugs with me while hunting deer. Thought I would use the shot shells for the squirrels I kept seeing. Little did I think that once a huge drop tine buck appeared I would never find a slug in my pocket. The deer ran away laughing as I dropped everything out of my pockets looking for a slug... ::) :-[  Never again!


It might work for snakes, but for the same reason as Goatwhiskers, I don't think it will work very well for grouse.




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Re: Shot load in 357 maxi brass?
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2011, 03:48:43 PM »
Clearwater,
 
Below is a link to 38 caliber shot capsules.  They are out of stock but supposed to be in stock in 2 days.  There are also 12 reviews of the capsules, I didn't read them.  I have never played with these but I have looked at the factory shotshells for 44mag & 357mag (CCI I believe) and the shot size is extremely small, like #11 & #12 so would probably only be effective at very short range.  I think they used to call these rounds garden or estate cartridges and were for poppin' bunnies in the backyard garden.
 
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2011, 01:58:46 AM »
I've never loaded shot cartridges for a revolver, but have watched my dad do it and talked to others that have also.
 
Best results are had with 800-900fps, or even less velocity.  Yeah, yeah - right off that limits effective range, but fighting the centrifical force of the rifling .....  WHY FORCE IT?

I would use #8 shot or no larger than #7 1/2. 
 
Two ideas come to my thinking; 
 
1). Using Speer shot capsules, after charging the Maxi case, seat the over-power wad as deep as possible to be flush on the few grains of powder in the case.
 
Pour the shot pellets directly into the casing, but only enough so room is left to push the plastic capsule full of pellets (minus the OP base) into the casing. 
 
Of course you'll have to juggle pellets already in the casing with all the pellets in the (open ended) capsule - trial and error obviously! 
 
Once you figure out how to get all pellets into this special load and the capsule to the correct depth, a very light crimp I believe is called for, but not heavy enough to crack the plastic capsule!

2). Another method to make a Maxi shot load might could use a gas check flipped upside down to act as an over-powder wad, and if you have a plastic capsule load it full of pellets like I tried to describe above.
 
OR ..... Use an upside down gas check as an over-powder "wad,"  fill the case to the top with shot and then put another upside down gas check on top, and crimping it closed!  (like a wadcutter or similar).
 
I wonder if effective range would be further than 8-10-12 yards, but for special survival rounds or grouse-potting rounds, I'd take what I could get! 
 
In a scenario like originally described above, I would prefer packing a T/C Contender with a .410/.45C barrel, if not a singleshot .410 or 28 or 20 gauge!  ;)
 
BTW, the Contender (or G2) with a .410/.45Colt bbl works good within its limits.  "Target" should be the grouse's or snake's head/neck area.