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Re: Chocolate Town- not so sweet
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2011, 03:58:12 PM »
Dat be nuffin'! Check dis out...

http://www.gourmet.com/foodpolitics/2009/03/politics-of-the-plate-tomato-slaves-follow-up


Not only do they get to be slaves, but they get to be sprayed by class 1 (most dangerous) pesticides too! Yippee dawgs!

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Re: Chocolate Town- not so sweet
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2011, 05:58:55 PM »
JUSTICE at HERSHEY'S - A Letter to Hershey's CEO John Bilbrey www.youtube.com

They got jobs in a warehouse and are angry that it involved a lot of heavy lifting and repetitive labor. Were they expecting Executive Vice President and a company car?

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Re: Chocolate Town- not so sweet
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2011, 06:53:40 PM »
They were expecting to be payed what they deserved.

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Re: Chocolate Town- not so sweet
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2011, 01:41:50 AM »
No, they were expecting to be payed what they wanted.

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Re: Chocolate Town- not so sweet
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2011, 10:15:26 AM »
No, they were expecting to be payed what they wanted.
And what amount was that? Please explain.

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Re: Chocolate Town- not so sweet
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2011, 01:39:01 PM »
I believe that Milton Hershey is rolling over in his grave.
Hershey was a great man and was for the working man and treated his employees with respect .
If you ever get the chance to read his biography do so it's great read.

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Re: Chocolate Town- not so sweet
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2011, 03:44:05 PM »
 
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They were expecting to be payed what they deserved.

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And what amount was that? Please explain.
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Re: Chocolate Town- not so sweet
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2011, 05:15:31 PM »
No, they were expecting to be payed what they wanted.
And what amount was that? Please explain.

Okay. Under the J-1 Visa program, the visitors have to have a job arranged for here before they can even apply for a work visa. They pay companies here $3,000 to $6,000 to find jobs here, then they sign contracts to work here for four months. The Hershey Company hired them at $8.10 an hour for a 40 hour week. Then they get here and they have to pay for housing, pay for food, buy clothes and whatever else they need to live here for four months. They have unskilled, entry level jobs in a warehouse doing grunt work; filling boxes with candy and lifting the boxes from one place to another. It is not high paying work, because it is a unskilled, entry level job in a warehouse. After they pay for their expenses, there is not much left of their check.
 
  After a while, they realize that their profit from their job is not going to pay for the $3,000 to $6,000 they paid to get their crappy, low paying job. They want more money. The guy who paid $6,000 to get his crappy job at the $8.10 he agreed beforehand to be paid now has to have about a $9.27 raise to cover the $6,000 in the four months he has here. If he gets his raise, all the others will have to have the same raise, too, just to be fair. Over 100% raises for everybody. They can expect to be paid what they want to be paid, but it's probably not going to happen.
 
 

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Re: Chocolate Town- not so sweet
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2011, 06:39:57 PM »
Thanks Shaggy.  I couldn't pull up the youtube video, so didn't know the details.  Hmmm, seems they can't multiply and don't want to live with the deal they made.
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Re: Chocolate Town- not so sweet
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2011, 01:36:54 AM »
No, they were expecting to be payed what they wanted.
And what amount was that? Please explain.
Okay. Under the J-1 Visa program, the visitors have to have a job arranged for here before they can even apply for a work visa. They pay companies here $3,000 to $6,000 to find jobs here, then they sign contracts to work here for four months. The Hershey Company hired them at $8.10 an hour for a 40 hour week. Then they get here and they have to pay for housing, pay for food, buy clothes and whatever else they need to live here for four months. They have unskilled, entry level jobs in a warehouse doing grunt work; filling boxes with candy and lifting the boxes from one place to another. It is not high paying work, because it is a unskilled, entry level job in a warehouse. After they pay for their expenses, there is not much left of their check.
 
  After a while, they realize that their profit from their job is not going to pay for the $3,000 to $6,000 they paid to get their crappy, low paying job. They want more money. The guy who paid $6,000 to get his crappy job at the $8.10 he agreed beforehand to be paid now has to have about a $9.27 raise to cover the $6,000 in the four months he has here. If he gets his raise, all the others will have to have the same raise, too, just to be fair. Over 100% raises for everybody. They can expect to be paid what they want to be paid, but it's probably not going to happen.
 
 
I see- I didn't know how it works. thanks for the explaination.

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Re: Chocolate Town- not so sweet
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2011, 03:23:13 AM »
  Looks like their contact organization was crappy, or else they couldn't figure the cost/benefit ratios.  That video is a giveaway; they are obviously reading a script near the video cam.  looks more like the local union is exploiting them !
   One of those students reads from the script; "Hershey's should hire local workers".  That doesn't sound like a student looking out for other students..  It sounds more like a naive youngster, pleading the local union case !
 
  Hmmm. $8.10 per hour, wonder what students get paid for summer work where they come from ? If they don't like the taxes and deductions, they should be addressing the Democrat administration in DC, not the Hershey Co.

 
CASULL;
   I couldn't pull up the info with XD40's link...use Shaggy's link...
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Re: Chocolate Town- not so sweet
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2011, 03:36:43 AM »
Dat be nuffin'! Check dis out...

http://www.gourmet.com/foodpolitics/2009/03/politics-of-the-plate-tomato-slaves-follow-up


Not only do they get to be slaves, but they get to be sprayed by class 1 (most dangerous) pesticides too! Yippee dawgs!
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  Conan;
  Please don't attempt to expand the propaganda from Mr Estabrook.  He starts out with a clearly misleading statement and then goes from there.
    He should at least qualify his statement, since most people view slaves as "property", being held against their will.  If Estabrook is not misleading, then these people often travel hundreds of miles to VOLUNTARY slavery!  His screed sounds more like the usual liberal lies, why fall for it and assist in propagating an untruth ?  Leave the liberals to marinate in their lies....
  Sure, some liberals hyperbolize and call low wages "slavery", but that only compromises what actual slavery truly is !
If you don't want the truth, don't ask me.  If you want something sugar coated...go eat a donut !  (anon)