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stub question
« on: September 02, 2011, 02:02:25 AM »
What would be better for using as the stub a shotgun barrel or centerfire barrel
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Re: stub question
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2011, 04:33:20 AM »
HELP the unknowing !! Will some body please tell me what a
stub gun is and the process  to make a stubbed barrel.
I would like this information from the people that
know what there are doing. No acronyms please. reclusej
 
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Re: stub question
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2011, 04:48:10 AM »
Take a handi barrel cut it off in front of piv ot stub a different calibe r not offered by h&r
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Re: stub question
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2011, 04:51:25 AM »
http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,118095.msg1098386544.html#msg1098386544

Here's a description of the process, if I did the link right.

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Re: stub question
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2011, 04:52:40 AM »
how is this welded? does it have to be welded at a certain temperature? does it have to be welded by a certified boiler welder? have any stubs ever blown up? or has anyone ever admited to one blowing up?
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Re: stub question
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2011, 05:23:13 AM »
how is this welded? does it have to be welded at a certain temperature? does it have to be welded by a certified boiler welder? have any stubs ever blown up? or has anyone ever admited to one blowing up?

Most of the stubs that I have seen are threaded.

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Re: stub question
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2011, 05:34:27 AM »
Just curious but how would one go about stubbing a shotgun barrel without having to machine a insert for the stub and a new ejector setup?

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Re: stub question
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2011, 05:36:06 AM »
What would be better for using as the stub a shotgun barrel or centerfire barrel

Depends on what chambering you want to do, smaller case heads and low pressure rounds will work fine on an 1137 mild steel shotgun barrel stub, but if you want a high pressure round, a 4140 rifle barrel stub would be advisable.

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Re: stub question
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2011, 05:47:37 AM »
Do a search on here for "32-20 Handi" by Trotterlg. When he did my 32-20 Handi he took step by step pictures and posted them. My donor barrel was a 410 but like Tim says, if you're going with a high pressure round you're better off using a rifle barrel for the donor.
 
 
 
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Re: stub question
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2011, 06:06:49 AM »
I found the link for my 32-20 barrel.
The pics are great and Larry shows his parkerizing setup too. ;D
 
Here it is.
http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,157037.msg1098685124.html#msg1098685124
 
 
 
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Re: stub question
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2011, 06:12:10 AM »
I understand the thinking for that Tim. But frankly its not an issue. The barrel that your putting in the stub will be in sufficient diameter and proper steel so this is not a issue at all. Think about it... A barrel dosent know if its going into a bolt, pump or auto. None of these have anything over the barrel. No one on any compitence would attempt to chamber a round in a barrel of sufficient diameter reguardless of how its mounted. The stregnth or lack of dosent enter the equasion.

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Re: stub question
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2011, 06:38:30 AM »
CW, seems to me we've had this discussion before and the consensus was the thin wall of the male threaded barrel should be supported in a rifle barrel stub instead of a shotgun stub on high pressure chamberings. I do know that Wayne wouldn't do my 6.5x55 on a shotgun barrel but had no questions on doing it on a 308 Win barrel stub.  ;)

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Re: stub question
« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2011, 06:53:28 AM »
To me it comes down to this statement:
Using rifle barrel as a stub for a high pressure / high power rifle  is a lot cheaper than a trip to the Emergency room or a Funeral.
 I do agree with Tim that a shotgun stub is OK for the milder pistol pressure chamberings
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Re: stub question
« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2011, 06:58:42 AM »
the consensus was the thin wall of the male threaded barrel should be supported in a rifle barrel stub instead of a shotgun stub.  ;)

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tim thats exactly what j2 told me when he stubbed a few for local handiholics
with hp chamberings ;)
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Re: stub question
« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2011, 07:58:55 AM »
What would be better for using as the stub a shotgun barrel or centerfire barrel



A centerfire rifle barrel. It's kinda like asking which receiver to use for a particular barrel, just use a SB2 for everything. ;)


HELP the unknowing !! Will some body please tell me what a
stub gun is and the process  to make a stubbed barrel.
I would like this information from the people that
know what there are doing. No acronyms please. reclusej
 



For another step-by-step pictorial of a stubbing process, please send me an email.  ;)




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Re: stub question
« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2011, 02:40:36 PM »
What would be better for using as the stub a shotgun barrel or centerfire barrel



A centerfire rifle barrel. It's kinda like asking which receiver to use for a particular barrel, just use a SB2 for everything. ;)


HELP the unknowing !! Will some body please tell me what a
stub gun is and the process  to make a stubbed barrel.
I would like this information from the people that
know what there are doing. No acronyms please. reclusej
 



For another step-by-step pictorial of a stubbing process, please send me an email.  ;)




Thanks, Dinny

 
His step by step pics are awesome and explain things perfectly but I wish he'd show the threading process. ;)
 
 
 
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Re: stub question
« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2011, 03:24:53 PM »
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CW, seems to me we've had this discussion before and the consensus was the thin wall of the male threaded barrel should be supported in a rifle barrel stub instead of a shotgun stub on high pressure chamberings. I do know that Wayne wouldn't do my 6.5x55 on a shotgun barrel but had no questions on doing it on a 308 Win barrel stub.  ;)

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Maybe so Tim.
I gotta say, its gonna take a metalurgist with more than a working knoledge of firearms. Along with a good bit of proof, to convince me a thin shroud of 1/16" steel is gonna make one iota of difference one way or the other. ;)

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Re: stub question
« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2011, 03:30:16 PM »
Thanks everybody! I new I could count on you guys.
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