Author Topic: multiplicity of topics from a wandering mind......... (Read 1075 times)

manatee1947 · « **on:** September 12, 2011, 06:40:44 PM »

Working on my deer load for this year, which at this point will probably be 20gr of Blue Dot and a 440 gr Lee cast in my 500 S&W. While scouting for sign today I covered about 100 acres and discovered 40-50 armadillo dens and saw a half dozen of the little buggers scuttling about in broad daylight, they are taking over the place. The amount of digging is incredible. I need to develop an armadillo gun/ load immediately, which would seem to be my 357. Upon returning to my truck I had this uneasy feeling that I was not alone, just an undefinable itch.........and rediscovered why I hate the woods in summer. I peeled down to my fruit of the looms and discovered several hundred little friends had joined me for dinner, with me AS the main course. I made the drive home in record time, about 20 minutes. The wife went over me with duck tape, like cleaning lint off a suit. I looked like I had been sprinkled heavy with pepper all over, literally hundreds of seed ticks. Duck tape, shower and scrub brush, double allergy pills, and benadryl cream with a paint roller. Which brings me back to "what armadillo loads do you recommend???

quickdtoo · « **Reply #1 on:** September 12, 2011, 07:16:22 PM »

Don't have an armadillo load, but have a recommendation to prevent ticks from joining you for dinner next time in the woods.

I've been using Sawyer's military soak version of permethrin for several years, it will kill a tick within a few minutes of it crawling on your clothing and lasts ~ 6 washings/weeks with one application, and it's odorless from the getgo. You only treat your clothing, not skin....great stuff. I also wear tick gators to keep em from crawling up my boots. The first time I got a tick on my pant leg, I watched the tick, after a few minutes of crawling slowly up my leg, it just fell off!

Tim

http://www.sawyer.com/faqpermethrin.htm

http://www.shop.biteandstings.com/product.sc?productId=106

Tim

manatee1947 · « **Reply #2 on:** September 12, 2011, 07:39:18 PM »

Thanks for the link! I will be getting some of that stuff. For some reason biting insects just love my blood, my wife can walk beside me and within 50 feet I will have a cloud around me while she goes untouched. I have to use that 40% DEET stuff before dressing, then on the inside of my clothes, then outside, and pin one of those dryer sheets to the bill of my cap if I really want to keep 'em away. It just about keeps me out of the woods until frost, I just fish or play golf until then.

ratdog · « **Reply #3 on:** September 12, 2011, 09:07:28 PM »

where do you live i won't go there? i have had ticks on me before but not like that.

gunther66 · « **Reply #4 on:** September 13, 2011, 04:21:29 AM »

I wonder if this product is substantualy different that the spray I have used on my horses for years.Bought by the quart in concentrated form,it is very cost effective. G66

max1138 · « **Reply #5 on:** September 13, 2011, 05:54:41 PM »

armadillo loads, CCI .22 long rifles in an H&R top break model 999

+100 on the permethrin, I use it on my henessy hammock to keep the skeeters away(they will sting thru the fabric BTW unless you treat it or use a bottom blanket) after a soaking I let it dry before climbing in. and dont have skeeter bites for months

jeepmann1948 · « **Reply #6 on:** September 13, 2011, 06:12:07 PM »

Way back when I lived in the Piney Woods Of East Texas (Lufkin) my neighbor ( who worked for the Texas A&M Farm) told me to wear flea and tick collars for large dogs around the Outside of my boots and tuck the pants legs inside them.It has worked for me for 30 plus years.
As a side note I asked him how long they lasted....... He smiled and said "you will know when to change them"

Them Red Bugs of East Texas are VICIOUS critters and always go for the Tender spots of the body
Ok back to the topic :
357 Max with a 125gr hollow point , they look like a clay bird only more junk flying in the air

BBF · « **Reply #7 on:** September 14, 2011, 06:42:54 AM »

Quote from: ratdog on September 12, 2011, 09:07:28 PM

where do you live i won't go there? i have had ticks on me before but not like that.

++++1 !!!!

gcrank1 · « **Reply #8 on:** September 14, 2011, 06:46:27 AM »

I believe that Permethrin is one of those chemicals/compounds that isnt supposed to be applied directly to the skin, and that you are supposed to wash thoroughly after handling anything with it on. Not to mention, scratching your nose or rubbing your eyes.........
Or am I remembering wrong?

thejanitor · « **Reply #9 on:** September 14, 2011, 06:56:13 AM »

I bet a trail boss load in either the .357 or 500 would be very effective on one of those little armoured critters. That pest control trips shooting will probably be as fun as the real hunting trip.

thejanitor

schoolmaster · « **Reply #10 on:** September 14, 2011, 07:58:39 AM »

I believe I would just shoot the same load and rifle I was going to deer hunt with, good practice.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #11 on:** September 14, 2011, 04:34:39 PM »

Quote from: gcrank1 on September 14, 2011, 06:46:27 AM

I believe that Permethrin is one of those chemicals/compounds that isnt supposed to be applied directly to the skin, and that you are supposed to wash thoroughly after handling anything with it on. Not to mention, scratching your nose or rubbing your eyes.........
Or am I remembering wrong?

I think you're misinformed or confused with something else, depends on the concentration, it's commonly applied to the skin for scabies, and used extensively by the military for clothing, it's much safer that DEET.

Tim

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permethrin

mechanic · « **Reply #12 on:** September 14, 2011, 05:27:38 PM »

I use 98% deet on my bare skin, and permethrin on my clothing, and still pick up some chiggers (redbugs in the south) every time I go afield this time of year. And I'm allergic apparently, because I continue to develop whelps weeks after exposure....I still have to get in the woods, can't help it.

We also have our share of those little ticks as well, but at least you can see 'um to pick 'um off.....

Maybe we'll have frost soon and thin them out....

Ben

gcrank1 · « **Reply #13 on:** September 15, 2011, 05:24:45 AM »

Thanx Tim; as a sufferer of chemical overdose I urge caution. We, as a culture, are pretty lax about reading labels and following safety precautions; just want to save somebody trouble if it was (is) an issue.

no guns here · « **Reply #14 on:** September 15, 2011, 05:32:06 AM »

12 ga, #4's, full choke...

NGH

quickdtoo · « **Reply #15 on:** September 15, 2011, 06:00:39 AM »

Quote from: mechanic on September 14, 2011, 05:27:38 PM

I use 98% deet on my bare skin, and permethrin on my clothing, and still pick up some chiggers (redbugs in the south) every time I go afield this time of year. And I'm allergic apparently, because I continue to develop whelps weeks after exposure....I still have to get in the woods, can't help it.

We also have our share of those little ticks as well, but at least you can see 'um to pick 'um off.....

Maybe we'll have frost soon and thin them out....

Ben

Unfortunately, researchers have revealed that some bugs have developed resistance to permethrin since it was first available, for instance, I've done some reading on the northern fowl mite because we had our home invaded by them, permethrin is substantially less effective above 68º"F, chiggers may be similar.

thejanitor · « **Reply #16 on:** September 15, 2011, 06:28:58 AM »

So how much deet do we need to apply to the armadillo diggs to keep them away? This could get very expensive.

thejanitor

quickdtoo · « **Reply #17 on:** September 15, 2011, 08:54:27 AM »

Quote from: thejanitor on September 15, 2011, 06:28:58 AM

So how much deet do we need to apply to the armadillo diggs to keep them away? This could get very expensive.
thejanitor

Just enough to get rid of em!!

Tim

Rustyinfla · « **Reply #18 on:** September 15, 2011, 03:54:48 PM »

FWIW my son and I were talking about this thread and he says they sell the Sawyer product at the Tractor Supply store where he works.

mechanic · « **Reply #19 on:** September 15, 2011, 04:27:41 PM »

I've found the 45-70 makes short work of Armadillos, but I recommend at least a 405 gr. bullet.

Seriously, if you kill them and let them lay, you won't be able to come around for a number of days until the stench dies down.....

Ben

okie44 · « **Reply #20 on:** September 15, 2011, 05:12:35 PM »

45/70 325gr hornady gummytips, opens them up good makes it easier for the buzzards. Only kill i have with handi bc. Need the shorter sight and more time to play.

manatee1947 · « **Reply #21 on:** September 15, 2011, 07:18:52 PM »

I live in southern Missouri where the armadillo is not supposed to be native, they are an "invasive species" I guess, or as we say , possum on the half shell. I certainly intend to hunt them, they may well replace the groundhogs of my childhood as targets of opportunity.
As for the ticks, they are terrible right now, and so are the chiggers. I have been taking my allergy pills by the handful and it will be a week at least before I stop looking like a strawberry. The temp was near 90 2 days ago, this morning it was 38 on the porch, it is wonderful. I have read that ticks can go for almost 2 years without eating and survive freezing. Burning underbrush helps but is not practical. What I want is some of that stuff you rub on your back and it makes your blood poison like my dogs. Meanwhile I will try several combinations that were suggested here. Insects will probably inherit the earth in the end.

geezerbiker · « **Reply #22 on:** September 15, 2011, 09:13:47 PM »

If it's on your own land, try raising Guinea fowl. They eat ticks like crazy...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guineafowl

Tony

quickdtoo · « **Reply #23 on:** September 16, 2011, 05:59:28 AM »

That may be trading one evil for another, birds carry Northern Fowl Mites and Chicken Mites that invade homes, a horror story to wish on no one.

Tim

http://birdmites.org/