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Re: Winchester question..
« Reply #30 on: November 27, 2011, 10:14:53 AM »
I shot in a couple of levergun matches where there were 2 guys shooting the Cabela's 50th anniversary 38-55's. Those are certainly some well fitted guns. Also guaging from the Winchesters and Browning's I have that came from the Miroku plant, I doubt there'll be any of the QC problems that was plaquing the New Haven plant prior to it's closure.
 Never have quite understood the kneejerk reaction to the AE or the tang safety. I find the tang safety to be one of the most ignorable things they could of done. It does not detract from the looks as the crossbolt thing did, just set it to fire and forget about it.
 The AE was in repsonse to consumer demand and while it looks a little different from the original top eject, it really doesn't bother anything, but does give the option to mount a scope should one choose to do that.

 
I just noticed that my reply to your comment about "kneejerk" reactions to tang safeties was also deleted because it had a picture of a gun for sale in the post.
 
My opinion of tang safeties comes from previously owning a Ruger 77. It had a tang safety. When hunting with that gun, and especially while wearing gloves, I would accidentally switch the safety off without knowing it while handling the gun. The gun slides backward while holding it buy the wrist, and it slides the safety off.  The tang is just a bad place to put a safety in my opinion. Besides, the hammer shouldn't be cocked on a lever gun unless your ready to fire anyway. Not sure how the safety works that would make it any safer. Does it block the hammer?
 Not a kneejerk reaction. Experience and opinion formed from it.

Maybe the tang safety could be disabled like many do with the Marlins crossbolt. As long as the half-cock safety and or rebounding hammers are still there.
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Re: Winchester question..
« Reply #31 on: November 27, 2011, 11:18:45 AM »
 ::) Saddlebaum I'm not sure what sort of ignorant peice of darwinism would carry a levergun with the hammer at full cock even if it had the tang safety ???
The Winchesters models with the tang safety still retain the rebounding hammer, so unless the hammer is placed into full cock, the lever squeezed tight to engage that hammer safety and the trigger pulled it's still not going off. Even if the tang safety is in the fire postion.
Much much different situation than a tang safety on a boltgun ,Ruger #1's and hundreds of thousands of shotguns that use the same tang safety setup.
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Re: Winchester question..
« Reply #32 on: November 27, 2011, 12:14:56 PM »
Gee! I get the impression you don't like my opinion. Darn! I was hoping we could get together later and have Twinkies and play croquet................ ;D
 
But thanks for reinforcing my opinion just the same!
Better to have a lever gun without a 4th safety on it.
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Re: Winchester question..
« Reply #33 on: November 27, 2011, 12:33:35 PM »
I'm nuetral on your opinion.
Simply pointing out how if you ever handle any the different variations of the 94 winchester, you'll soon see the "safety" whether it be the crossbolt or the tang type are pretty much redundant and totally ignorable.
Also pointing out that along with your Ruger 77, the Ruger #1, late model savage 99's, and several variations of Mossberg ,Browning, Savage and Stevens shotguns use tang safeties, and have done so for 50 years or more.
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