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Offline R. Tillery

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STAR Model B and Super B 9MMs?
« on: January 07, 2004, 06:27:52 AM »
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« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2004, 08:53:35 AM »
R.  The Star Model B is a solid reliable 1911 (almost) style 9mm.  I don't know if it was ever a military issue but may have been.  Most european countries don't like their citizens to own firearms in a military caliber and I think Spain is one (I could be, might be, and maybe am wrong, maybe).  

I'm not sure but I think the Star Super B is an upgrade, or possibly another 9mm caliber altogether.  Star chambered those 1911 loo-alikes in both the 9mm and the 9mm Largo/38 Auto.  I had one of those years ago and shooting it was a lot of fun.  

And that's the end of my story.................... HTH.  Mikey.
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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2004, 07:30:56 PM »
I don't know much about those, other than I would like one!  8)  Looked at one today but it was kinda beat up. Wound up buying another Ballester/Molina (lay away)...I'm stilll looking for a nice Star though.
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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2004, 07:34:41 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2004, 10:42:26 PM »
Hello...

I have two Star Model Bs:  one of the faked Nazi stamped Bulgarian Bs, and a "LPN" West German police marked B.  The latter is by far the better looking pistol, with original finish.  The Nazi stamped one is an arsenal refinished pistol.  Nevertheless, I find both pistols extremely robust, rugged, and reliable shooters.  As solid steel pistols, they feel very good in the hand.  Accuracy has always been at least on the par or perhaps better than most mililtary semi-auto pistols.  However, they do not reliably feed with all brands of hollow-point ammunition.  Some brands feed OK but others don't.  I have been using the Pow'R Ball ammo to ensure reliable feeding without sacrificing hollow-point bullet performance.

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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2004, 07:06:41 AM »
I believe the difference between Star Model b and a Star Super is the bullet. I have a Star Super and it takes the 9mm " Largo " and the regular Stars take the 9mm " Luger " . I think that is the only difference. Nice gun to shoot, shoots as well as my Ballester.

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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2004, 12:18:58 PM »
Local pawn shop has (2) STARs(9MM Paras) in MAYBE 70% condition for $265/each. Seems kinda high to my thinking.....
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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2004, 06:42:29 AM »
I've had a Star Model B in 9mm Largo for a few years, think I paid $90 for mine. It's a sound reliable pistol. Finding or making ammo is a pain, and out of curiosity I ran a few clips of mild 9x19 reloads through it. (Had several hundred sitting around and no current 9x19) Worked fine. I can only guess that it is headspacing on the extractor.

I'm still not comfortable with that idea, but it told me that if I ever wanted to sleeve the chamber to 9x19, the rounds would feed and function without other alteration. Incidentally, the sleeve need be no more than a ring the right length cut from a steel 9x19 case and loctited into place.
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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2004, 09:35:49 AM »
Leftoverdj:  I used to follow the same practice yeares ago with some of my pistols chamberied in the 9mm largo, and busted a few hard to replace extractors in the process.  The only thing that holds those shorter 9mms from going to headspace in the 9mm largo chamber is the extractor.  My advice to you is to find a 9x19 bbl for your Star - they are available, and you can get them at the original factory length or ported or threaded (an inch longer).  But, that way you will at least save yourself the headache of busting extractors as I did.

Also, someone, a while back, was making an adaptor for the 9mm Largo chambers to allow them to chamber the 9mm Luger round.  It was badically the same arrangement spoken to in the posts - a very small ring that was (in this case) fire formed into the chamber and allowed the 9mm to headspace on the case mouth and not be held in the chamber by the extractor.  HTH.  Mikey.
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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2004, 12:59:07 PM »
Mikey, I have a few hundred Largo cases made from 9mm Mag so I'm set for a while. Just thinking ahead.  Plenty steel cased Wolf stuff around to make the adapter ring from.
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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2004, 04:04:42 AM »
Leftoverdj:  I've done the same as you have in making 9mm Largo cases from 9mm magnum cases.  I used them for my Destroyer Carbine and am glad to say they functioned perfectly.  one problem with those 9mm calibers is the 1:10 twist I believe most of the Euro 9mms carry - prolly the same for US made 9mms too.  Tough to get an accurate cast load for those - or maybe it's just my clunker carbine.  But, at least it's a fun gun, and is accurate enough pot a bunny or a squirrel out to about 25 yds - larger critters out further.  I believe Starline makes the 9mm Largo cases but I also know you can use the 9x23 for a better fit.  

My only concern with loctiting a small chamber ring in your Largo to adapt the 9x19 is whether you are going to goop up the chamber before the 'ring' seals or sets.  Anyway, if I can remember (tough when ya gots the CRS) I will try and find the adaptor kit I have and see who made it.  

HTH.  Mikey.
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« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2004, 12:51:46 PM »
What makes the Super B different from the B is the quick take-down lever. I like my surplus Super B 9mm except for numerous FTE's. I think it is an extractor problem, but have no idea how to fool with external extractors. Guess I should have stuck with my 1911's.  :?
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« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2004, 03:25:04 AM »
1911WB:  You should be able to obtain another extractor from Gun Parts Corporation in West Hurley, NY.  If not there, then you could try SAMCO or some of the other parts shops.  Some of those pistols used softer steel in their parts than American manufacturers did and they may go out of whack on ya.  

An external extractor is not difficult to replace.  They usually have a hole in them through which a pin goes, from the top of the slide through and out the bottom.  They have spring activation, so once the pin comes out they will probably pop out of their slide cut.  It is no real problem to install a new one.  

On the other hand, once you remove the extractor you may find there is a sufficient 'gunk' buildup that inhibits proper working of the extractor.  Either way, with a new extractor your Super B should go ya for years.  

HTH.  Mikey.
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« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2004, 03:53:08 AM »
You can get 9mm largo ammunition from this site. I've bought from them with no problems. The ammo is 1977, non corrosive and great shooting.

http://www.sillc.com/
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« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2004, 09:08:21 AM »
The one I had was a Model B that shot Largo ammunition. I was given two boxes of the CCI stuff and used 38 Super from that point on. The 38 Super loads perfectly, although I did polish the loading ramp/barrel for it to do so. I loaded the cases with Luger loads and it shot half decent. The barrel bushing was a little sloppy but it still shot nice up until the day I sold it. A friend still has it and they won't part with it. I paid $150 for mine out of the gun list and another $12.00 to ship and transfer it. The thing looked like new. No lanyard ring on mine and the checkering was pretty crisp.
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