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Offline boatboy

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Is there a difference between Tactical and Non Tac ammo?
« on: September 21, 2011, 01:56:47 PM »
I stopped at a gun shop yesterday and found a nice simple Handi in 223 with a bull barrel.Of course I had to have it. I slapped a new Kruger compact 2 to 8 by 33mm this afternoon and got out to the range.


I bore sited and was close at 50 so I went to the 100 yard range. I was lucky and lazy someone left a couple targets with out many holes.
I started with Remington UMC 55gr and if you look at the pic you will see that I shot a couple dialed it in and my last 4 shots looked good. I thought a simlar thought when I shoot a new Handi "man these just shoot great."





I shot the box of Rem and went to American Eagle Tactical .223 55gr
They were all over the board. I was just wondering if "Tactical" ammo if designed for Semi Autos just to have fun and by nature were not very accurate.

Or maybe after 20 rounds I was just done?
Or maybe this gun just likes the Rem ammo?
What do you think?


Its been a while since I had a simple 223 Handi without laminated stock etc its kinda nice. compact scope I think I will have fun for a while






I was so proud of the 357 and 44 mag I put together with thumbhole laminated stock, I posted pics and my buddy Pete (petemi) commented about keeping it simple and light. Dont get me wrong I love those also but yes simple is good also
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Re: Is there a difference between Tactical and Non Tac ammo?
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2011, 03:43:26 PM »
'Tactical': a name that they can put on any ol' junk and people will buy it? You did prove your rifle doesnt like it, thats for sure. Everybody says try the Win. 'White Box', if i ever get a .223 Im goin' straight for that.
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Re: Is there a difference between Tactical and Non Tac ammo?
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2011, 04:00:23 PM »
+1 on gcrank1's post. It's getting to the point where I detest the word TACTICAL. It won't be long before you will have to eat dinner with a Tactical knife, fork and spoon. After dinner you will have to drink your coffee from a TACTICAL coffee cup. Evidently it a sales booster.
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Re: Is there a difference between Tactical and Non Tac ammo?
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2011, 04:45:14 PM »
I took my 223 with survivor stock by the shop one day to do some machining on it, and one of the fellows commented, "I didn't know you had a tactical rifle!"
 
Tactical?  Just what is that anyway?  It sure is not a single shot. :o
 
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Re: Is there a difference between Tactical and Non Tac ammo?
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2011, 06:21:29 PM »
Yes there is a difference.  The difference between Tactical and Non Tactical ammo is the Non.

In reality the "quality" Tactical ammo is supposed to be manufactured using premium components,  tighter tolerances, and better quality control.  Examples of this is, are: Lake City Match Ammo, & Black Hills Match ammo.

But every rifle is different, and as you can see, your rifle likes Remington UMC 55gr, whether it likes the quality match loads listed above cannot be known, without shooting them. 
"You are entitled to your own opinions, but you are not entitled to your own facts." - Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan

When you allow a lie to go unchallenged, it becomes the truth.

My quandary, I personally, don't think I have enough Handi's but, I know I have more Handi's than I really need or should have.

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Re: Is there a difference between Tactical and Non Tac ammo?
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2011, 06:37:38 PM »
'Tactical': a name that they can put on any ol' junk and people will buy it? You did prove your rifle doesnt like it, thats for sure. Everybody says try the Win. 'White Box', if i ever get a .223 Im goin' straight for that.
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A tactical single shot 410?????? Just cause it has an Ati stock. I don't understand. ::) :-\ :-\ :P

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Re: Is there a difference between Tactical and Non Tac ammo?
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2011, 01:42:41 AM »
+1 on gcrank1's post. It's getting to the point where I detest the word TACTICAL. It won't be long before you will have to eat dinner with a Tactical knife, fork and spoon. After dinner you will have to drink your coffee from a TACTICAL coffee cup. Evidently it a sales booster.
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Jim you kinda nailed it. I had not thought about it but you are right.
reminds me of my least favorite word "Guru" any idiot who once made a good point or BSed someone into thinking they knew something became a "Guru"
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Re: Is there a difference between Tactical and Non Tac ammo?
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2011, 02:09:53 AM »
All I can say is there must be an awful lot of paranoid tactical people running around in their tactical underwear, pants, shirts, boots etc. Packing tactical rifles, handguns, scopes, lasers, slings, holsters, backpacks, knives etc.  I suppose soon it'll be tactical makeup for women.  What B.S. ::)   For quite a while, I was into 19th century tactical assault rifles.

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Re: Is there a difference between Tactical and Non Tac ammo?
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2011, 09:57:56 AM »
Is there a difference between tactics and strategy?  I mean, you know, like the Air Force had Tactical Air Command with one set of missions, and Strategic Air Command with a different set of missions.
I'm holding out for a Straticool rifle, handgun, underwear, and for a bunch of old B-52 Nuke Jockey "Guru's" to start offering the ONLY way to use my Straticool rifle effectively.  Do you suppose that the special Straticool ammunition would be self-guiding shoot and forget stuff?  I sure hope it would be!  How cool!  I'd have to believe that the Straticool ammunition's impacts would be gauged in at least megatons, huh?.............I can hardly wait!!!! ;D
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Re: Is there a difference between Tactical and Non Tac ammo?
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2011, 11:25:53 AM »
Im thinkin' that it mostly is an 'acronym' thing they got going; cant use somebody else's alpha's.
I also like the sound of 'terminal ballistics'.......... :o ;D .
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Re: Is there a difference between Tactical and Non Tac ammo?
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2011, 12:25:30 PM »
I consider the term to apply to those items designed for use in combat situations, including law enforcement and self-defense.  There is true tactical ammunition but American Eagle is just low-end Federal stuff with a catchy marketing label.  Tactical ammo is typically designed for specific applications (i.e, low-flash and controlled recoil/penetration  for close-up, low-light situations; or extreme accuracy for long-range sniper situations, etc.). 
Hornady TAP is a good example:  http://www.hornady.com/store/TAP-FPD-handgun
 

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Re: Is there a difference between Tactical and Non Tac ammo?
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2011, 11:57:04 AM »
While thumbing thru a shooting supply catalogue, I found a TACTICAL BALL POINT PEN. Couldn't believe it. Gotta get me one of those ;)  I bet I would be able to write with both hands if I had one. ;D    Whats next???