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« Reply #30 on: September 25, 2011, 07:42:48 PM »
IG,

here is another tidbit Lev 24:17

"And he that killeth any man shall surely be put to death"

Scriptural endorsement of capital punishment.

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Re: Two cold blooded murderers executed last night
« Reply #31 on: September 26, 2011, 04:45:07 AM »
I'm more intersted in the bigger story, a question I asked you a while back and you did not reply;;;;;which is>> what % error of wronfully sentenced in executions are you willing to accept....?? 0%, 5%, 10%, or any % of those wrongful charged and sentenced put to death...??

Let me help you out here, TM7... answering that question would require honesty, and probably an interest in justice. Many lack one or the other, and some lack both.

Me? I'm not willing to accept ANY possibility of wrongful executions. Safest way... don't have death penalty. We can have justice without it.
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Re: Two cold blooded murderers executed last night
« Reply #32 on: September 26, 2011, 07:08:42 AM »
Being against the death penalty and standing on that principal is one thing. Being against the death penalty and making things up to support the removal of the death penalty is another thing. The latter is not a principled stand. Its purely political and in this case, that political stand could have led to this murderers eventual release from prison.
 
The facts are Davis was found guilty of this murder and the punishment was death, like it or not.
 
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Re: Two cold blooded murderers executed last night
« Reply #33 on: September 26, 2011, 07:18:31 AM »
I would have had jane fonda executed.  if you do the crime, you should pay.
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Re: Two cold blooded murderers executed last night
« Reply #34 on: September 26, 2011, 07:25:35 AM »
I still wish they woulda had executioner at my high school job fair. That woulda been at the top of my list. I for one would love to see them bring back public hanging.
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Re: Two cold blooded murderers executed last night
« Reply #35 on: September 26, 2011, 10:54:41 AM »
Burning on a Stake, Disemboweling, Quartering and Impaling would round up the entertainment factor for some. :(
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Re: Two cold blooded murderers executed last night
« Reply #36 on: September 26, 2011, 11:24:27 AM »
Scatter we could do it pay per view. I'd buy it.
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Re: Two cold blooded murderers executed last night
« Reply #37 on: September 26, 2011, 03:08:43 PM »
Burning on a Stake, Disemboweling, Quartering and Impaling would round up the entertainment factor for some. :(

I'd buy a DVD of that.
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Re: Two cold blooded murderers executed last night
« Reply #38 on: September 26, 2011, 05:49:56 PM »
The facts are Davis was found guilty of this murder and the punishment was death, like it or not.
 
 
 
YEP, that says it all. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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« Reply #39 on: September 27, 2011, 07:41:12 AM »
It is good that Lawrence Brewer paid for his crime but this "hate crime" B.S. needs to go away. All crimes are "hate crimes". There is no need for extra charges to be filed against the perpetrator because the crime was commited against a member of a protected class- murder is murder is murder regardless of the skin color of the murderer or the victim or the sexual orientation of the victim.
 
Had roles been reversed and a white man was dragged to death behind a vehicle driven by a black man there is no doubt in my mind that hate crime charges would NOT have been filed.
 
 
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« Reply #40 on: September 27, 2011, 07:52:59 AM »
It is good that Lawrence Brewer paid for his crime but this "hate crime" B.S. needs to go away. All crimes are "hate crimes". There is no need for extra charges to be filed against the perpetrator because the crime was commited against a member of a protected class- murder is murder is murder regardless of the skin color of the murderer or the victim or the sexual orientation of the victim.
 
Had roles been reversed and a white man was dragged to death behind a vehicle driven by a black man there is no doubt in my mind that hate crime charges would NOT have been filed.
 
 
LAKOTA. Good post Sir. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D
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Re: Two cold blooded murderers executed last night
« Reply #41 on: September 27, 2011, 10:21:46 AM »
The application of "hate crimes" is in itself racist.
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Re: Two cold blooded murderers executed last night
« Reply #42 on: September 27, 2011, 10:26:48 AM »
The application of "hate crimes" is in itself racist.
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Re: Two cold blooded murderers executed last night
« Reply #43 on: September 27, 2011, 12:28:48 PM »
  Hate crimes laws are just a way to punish a man ..for what somebody else thought the man was thinking..

Very interesting but very true. I never thought about hate crimes this way.
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Re: Two cold blooded murderers executed last night
« Reply #44 on: September 27, 2011, 01:14:52 PM »
  Right Lakota;
   ...And how often have you heard even the most learned and intelligent people say, " Hey fellow, I can't read your mind" !
 
    ...But in "hate crimes" cases, they like to pretend to read another man's mind..
 
       The answer is simple...punish someone for the crime they actually DID..not for what they thought while doing it...because  that, we could not know anyway !
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Re: Two cold blooded murderers executed last night
« Reply #45 on: October 01, 2011, 01:34:14 PM »
This article should provide additional information for those "doubting Thomas's", regarding the guilt of Troy Davis:

From NY Post, Friday, September 30, 2011

    "Troy Davis was executed in Georgia.  Twenty years ago, he was convicted of murdering Mark MacPhail, a 27-year-old police officer working nights as a security guard to support his young family.
    On the fateful 1989 evening, Davis, then 20, fired a handgun at a passing car, wounding a passenger.  He later met an acquaintance, who was arguing with a homeless man.  MacPhail intervened when Davis started pistol-whipping the man.
    Davis shot MacPhail in the face and the heart.  Over two decades, his death sentence became a cause celebre for anti-capital-punishment activists who whenever the killer is black and the victim white, see conclusive proof of racial animus in the death penalty's imposition.
    But Davis received a fair trial (the court actually suppressed important evidence against him), his case was exhaustively reviewed by state and federal courts, and clemency was denied by the governor after an independent review.  Though some eyewitnesses recanted, the courts found them suspect hardly enough to overcome the other witnesses and ballistics evidence tying the two shootings to the same gun.
    There have been capital cases where compelling demonstrations of innocence give us pause.  This is not one of them."
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Re: Two cold blooded murderers executed last night
« Reply #46 on: October 01, 2011, 02:04:26 PM »
  Why do the anti death penalty poultroons  always back the real losers ?  They find some dude who has in cold blood, killed a cop while the cop was only doiung his duty ?
   They seem to choose the most disgusting people to defend !  They have for years been trying to spring another especially vicious cop killer with a strange name..Mumia Abu-Jamal..  He not only shot and wounded a young cop & father..he then stood over him an"just for kicks" shot him in the head...executing him.
  http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D97D489G0  The SCOTUS agreed he murdered the cop !
 
   A couple years ago a death penalty was administered to a young woman whom NOBODY denied was entirely innocent of any crime...an excellent opportunity to save a condemned person..and a completely innocent one too !    But where were the anti death penalty coo-coos ?
   
   Terry Schiavo was put to death without a peep from them !   Apparently, they are only interested in rescuing GUILTY SCUM !
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Re: Two cold blooded murderers executed last night
« Reply #47 on: October 01, 2011, 05:56:32 PM »
I have worked around death row inmates 25 years. EVERYBODY should be able to read ALL about each case and not just what the media and lawyers have everyone believe. If you don't carry a gun, or believe in the death penalty, you would.
Is it fair? Some murderers spend life in prison, some get put to death for basically the same thing. The ones put to death 20 years after the crime, are they the same person that entered prison 20 years ago?
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« Reply #48 on: October 01, 2011, 06:03:06 PM »
It's the law of the land, so be it.  Give unto Caeser that which is Caeser's, and unto God that which is God's.

I'm not sure what this means. Sometimes we need to rise up and kill ceasar
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« Reply #49 on: October 01, 2011, 06:21:59 PM »
Given the context he laid out, how could you not know what that means?
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Re: Two cold blooded murderers executed last night
« Reply #50 on: October 02, 2011, 04:47:12 AM »
Given the context he laid out, how could you not know what that means?

No as smart (or gullible) as you, maybe ...?
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Re: Two cold blooded murderers executed last night
« Reply #51 on: October 02, 2011, 04:53:42 AM »
Given the context he laid out, how could you not know what that means?

No as smart (or gullible) as you, maybe ...?

Understanding what someone wrote does not make you gullible. It just means you can read, comprehend and understand. So either your really struggeling here, or your just trying to be a wize guy.
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« Reply #52 on: October 02, 2011, 04:59:28 AM »
You're descending into snippiness and getting personal, Cabin, for no good reason. That probably comes easy; maybe you want the last word, I dunno. I'd prefer to read tennhillbilly's explanation to relationship between death row, and Matthew 12:17. If you have something to offer on that subject, offer away... otherwise, how about just shutting up. Please?
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« Reply #53 on: October 02, 2011, 05:25:47 AM »
You're descending into snippiness and getting personal, Cabin, for no good reason. That probably comes easy; maybe you want the last word, I dunno. I'd prefer to read tennhillbilly's explanation to relationship between death row, and Matthew 12:17. If you have something to offer on that subject, offer away... otherwise, how about just shutting up. Please?
You started this by making an assumption about me and you said I was "gullible". Perhaps I was suppose to take all that as a compliment.....
 
You said you did not understand what tennhillbilly wrote but somehow you found a way to leap to some conclusions here so I’m really confused at what your attempting to achieve. Obviuosly getting me to just "shut up" won't be one of them.
 
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« Reply #54 on: October 02, 2011, 06:52:05 AM »
According to TV news Davis had over 1000 people attending his funeral. I'm asking myself What is wrong with these people??. :o ............................and they vote. :(
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« Reply #55 on: October 02, 2011, 04:58:09 PM »
It's the law of the land, so be it.  Give unto Caeser that which is Caeser's, and unto God that which is God's.

I'm not sure what this means. Sometimes we need to rise up and kill ceasar

Luke 20:25 I believe.  It was also the passage Sgt.Alvin York used to help him with his religous beliefs about being drafted into war and killing another man. It's the law of the land. I believe God instructs us to obey the laws of the land..........hence.... give unto Caesar (the law at that time)..that which is Caeser's. 
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« Reply #56 on: October 02, 2011, 05:54:28 PM »
Luke 20:25 I believe.  It was also the passage Sgt.Alvin York used to help him with his religous beliefs about being drafted into war and killing another man. It's the law of the land. I believe God instructs us to obey the laws of the land..........hence.... give unto Caesar (the law at that time)..that which is Caeser's. 
I know that story, the trick question Pharisees asked about about taxes... I was trying to get ot the meaning re: death penalty. No flame or antagonism was intended in asked the question, tennhillbilly... just looking for clarity, is all.

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« Reply #57 on: October 03, 2011, 01:39:03 AM »
  Unlike some, Jesus held no grudge against the military. It was obvious in the accounts where he dealt with the Roman military, specifically, centurions.
   In fact, he was very much impressed with some of them, particularly this one from Capernum whom he addressed;
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    When Jesus heard these things, he marvelled at him, and turned him about, and said unto the people that followed him, "I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel". (Luke 7:9)
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  Jesus dealt with other military, including one named Cornelius...and Jesus did not in any way correct or berate them for their occupation.
   This info specifically for some here who are continually asking... "what would Jesus do"?
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« Reply #58 on: October 03, 2011, 02:39:15 AM »
The court system has become so corrupt along with the investigative side that I don't believe in capital punishment the way it is administered today.
Catch the man in the act, do him in before the sunsets/rises which ever is first. That is fine with me but not this 31 year crap with the lawyers making a killing off of the taxpayers.
In the c Anthony trial here in Florida, I did not watch 1 minute of that fiasco or keep up with it. Apparently the whole world did and when she got off, mobs hit the street, everyone whining. Turn a TV or radio on and you got that crap.
I heard one of the jurors say something to the effect. "she may have been guilty but they did not prove it".
The first thing I thought was, how did they get 12 intelligent people together for this trial, that never happens? The judge must have been asleep the whole show or he would have swayed toward the media or money. Justice be damned.
Or as impossible as it may seem he was a good judge.
The burden of proof should be on the prosecution, which, unless you have a great deal of money is never the case. You must prove your innocence in today's court. (think duke la-cross team).
Yes that may mean the bad will walk but the innocent will live. That will also mean we will be safer in our beds when the local cops need someone to accuse.
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Re: Two cold blooded murderers executed last night
« Reply #59 on: October 03, 2011, 07:36:10 AM »
The court system has become so corrupt along with the investigative side that......................
 
 
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The burden of proof should be on the prosecution, which, unless you have a great deal of money is never the case. You must prove your innocence in today's court. (think duke la-cross team).

It wasn't written that way except in two situations that I'm aware of. It is shameful that the system has degraded to that point.
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