Author Topic: Best Roll Crimper for Slugs (Read 4041 times)

casper_zip · « **on:** September 23, 2011, 07:22:43 AM »

Howdy:

Saw somewhere and naturally, can't remember as usual, the best roll crimper out there. What is your opinion of the best ? I believe this stated that a plastic roll crimper was better than a metal one. I can't recall who posted this and what company he said had the best.

Thanks and all the best,

casper_zip

Junior1942 · « **Reply #1 on:** October 07, 2011, 01:57:46 AM »

Bump.

tacklebury · « **Reply #2 on:** October 09, 2011, 04:50:03 PM »

I cannot state as to what is best... This is one I have heard a lot of good things about. Might start there and work outwards.

http://www.ballisticproducts.com/-Roll-Crimping-Tools-/products/128/
Just mount it in a variable speed drill or drill press is better, and keep speeds slow...

eye shot · « **Reply #3 on:** October 09, 2011, 06:14:23 PM »

I have a plastic one- don't like it! I've read that Presision Reloading has the best one. I quit roll crimping and just load slug and melt a little beeswax to seal, hulls last longer and slugs seem to be more accurate.

casper_zip · « **Reply #4 on:** October 10, 2011, 03:06:41 PM »

Eye:

Do you trim your hulls or what ? I'd like to try this sealing with wax on some of my slug loads. I am an experminter by heart and nature.

Thanks a lot,

casper_zip

eye shot · « **Reply #5 on:** October 10, 2011, 03:49:01 PM »

Zip
At present I don't trim because I'm using a single shot USH. I tinker with different slug loads all the time. Now i'm into full bore slugs and most are sticking out of the end of the hull. What I'm trying to do is get the slug with in a couple of thousands of the rifling or as close as possible for better accuratcy. If using my 1100 or 870 I would have to trim the hulls down so they would load.

kb · « **Reply #6 on:** December 10, 2011, 02:45:04 AM »

Quote from: eye shot on October 09, 2011, 06:14:23 PM

I have a plastic one- don't like it! I've read that Presision Reloading has the best one. I quit roll crimping and just load slug and melt a little beeswax to seal, hulls last longer and slugs seem to be more accurate.

I would really like to hear more about this. What is your procedure? I did the roll crimp thing for a while, and was not impressed. What are you using?

Thanks

kb

Junior1942 · « **Reply #7 on:** December 12, 2011, 03:32:31 AM »

+1 on the I'd like to hear more.

casper_zip · « **Reply #8 on:** December 12, 2011, 04:18:31 AM »

Wow; a man can always learn and do by studying, research, and just plain ole country boy ingenuity, bred by want to and necessity.

I am now using my brass shotshells primed with large pistol primers. I am using 3/8" fiber wads, Alcan flite-max wad columns, one 1/4" nitro wad. I am charging this with Herco (test fire today), and dropping in one Lyman lead slug cast from my old mold. When these brass shells are loaded, wife gave me a small little "crock pot" wax melter. I use my own bee grown beeswax, since I am a beekeeper, and I use my wax to seal the tops of my cases. They look really good. Will find out how they shoot, today, too.

Mind you, this is an ongoing project. Of course, I'm interested in hitting power, but I will not own anything that is not accurate, if you do your part. This is a tremendous therapy, and really been a blessing to me.

See yall later, keep the slugs flying and the keyboard hot. Lots to learn about this almost "ancient art" of chunking big chunks of lead.

Best,

casper_zip

no guns here · « **Reply #9 on:** December 12, 2011, 04:29:12 AM »

wouldn't mind seeing pics of your finished load and results...

NGH

kb · « **Reply #10 on:** December 15, 2011, 03:45:09 PM »

X2

Definitely want to see!

blind ear · « **Reply #11 on:** December 15, 2011, 04:08:51 PM »

pitchers are fun! ear

darkgael · « **Reply #12 on:** December 16, 2011, 12:08:43 AM »

I have tried the plastic crimper and the metal crimper. In a drill press. In a hand drill. Plastic hulls. Paper hulls. New hulls. Many times fired hulls. Shotshells. Slug loads.
I did not like either version.
The BEST roll crimper out there is something like this - available regularly on Ebay:

new paper hulls:

Slugs:

Round ball 12 ga.:

Used plastic hulls:

Short hulls:

older hulls from a star crimp:

This tool is faster than the drill press tool and makes a better crimp.
Pete

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #13 on:** December 16, 2011, 12:54:05 AM »

i have the same ones tackelberry has and they work pretty well

Quote from: tacklebury on October 09, 2011, 04:50:03 PM

I cannot state as to what is best... This is one I have heard a lot of good things about. Might start there and work outwards.
http://www.ballisticproducts.com/-Roll-Crimping-Tools-/products/128/
Just mount it in a variable speed drill or drill press is better, and keep speeds slow...

kb · « **Reply #14 on:** January 01, 2012, 04:08:21 PM »

Quote from: darkgael on December 16, 2011, 12:08:43 AM

I have tried the plastic crimper and the metal crimper. In a drill press. In a hand drill. Plastic hulls. Paper hulls. New hulls. Many times fired hulls. Shotshells. Slug loads.
I did not like either version.
The BEST roll crimper out there is something like this - available regularly on Ebay:

new paper hulls:

Slugs:

Round ball 12 ga.:

Used plastic hulls:

Short hulls:

older hulls from a star crimp:

This tool is faster than the drill press tool and makes a better crimp.
Pete

What is that? Looks interesting..

darkgael · « **Reply #15 on:** January 10, 2012, 03:56:09 AM »

Quote

What is that? Looks interesting.

Well....there's a lot of "thats" in those pictures. I'm guessing that you are asking about the tool in the first picture.
It is an antique roll crimper. Works now as well as it was new. Ebay.
Pete

kb · « **Reply #16 on:** January 10, 2012, 07:56:46 AM »

Yes sorry. What model is it? I looked on eBay and all I could find were coin wrapper rollers.

Thanks

darkgael · « **Reply #17 on:** January 11, 2012, 03:13:27 AM »

KB - I do not know the manufacturer. It is an antique and has no I.D. on it that I can see. I own two of them, each different. They both work very nicely.
There two available available on Ebay right now. Three days left.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Old-12-Ga-Shotshell-Loading-Tool-/260930359134?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cc0a94f5e

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Old-Shotshell-Reloading-Tool-/250970517369?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a6f022f79&autorefresh=true

Pete

epanzella · « **Reply #18 on:** February 19, 2012, 10:59:30 AM »

I can't say what's "Best" because I've only used the metal one sold by Ballistic Products but it sure works great. Effortless factory-looking roll crips in my drill press. I can't seem to figure out how to post a pic.

kb · « **Reply #19 on:** February 19, 2012, 11:11:54 AM »

steg · « **Reply #20 on:** April 22, 2012, 12:44:09 PM »

I have a nylon 12 Ga, a metal .410, and a similar looking antique one in 12 Ga, they all work well for me, but believe me it takes time to learn how each and every one wants to be run, once you figgure them out they are a joy to use, especially the antique hand crank one. Beeswax makes a good lube....................steg

VdoMemories Blazing Sabot · « **Reply #21 on:** May 16, 2012, 04:38:42 AM »

Good morning, here's the very best I found and it works like a charm!

Check on the net for a used one.
Hope it helps.
Ajay
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darkgael · « **Reply #22 on:** May 21, 2012, 04:40:01 AM »

Quote from: VdoMemories Blazing Sabot on May 16, 2012, 04:38:42 AM

Good morning, here's the very best I found and it works like a charm!

Check on the net for a used one.
Hope it helps.
Ajay
VdoMemorie's-Blazing Sabots

Will it crimp a hull that has been previously star crimped?
Pete

VdoMemories Blazing Sabot · « **Reply #23 on:** May 21, 2012, 03:53:02 PM »

Hello Pete, if I want to roll crimp a hull that was fold crimped, I'll stick a magic marker of the right size to press the front of the hull or use a Co2 cylinder on a drill and press the front of the hull then simply roll crimp!
Hope it helps.
Ajay
VdoMemorie's-Blazing Sabots

RPRNY · « **Reply #24 on:** May 21, 2012, 05:52:20 PM »

I believe that Lyman have started making their 70s vintage roll crimper again, or had found a stock of them and they were on offer again. Give them a call and see because my understanding is that they are by far the best.

kb · « **Reply #25 on:** May 22, 2012, 04:05:55 AM »

Quote from: VdoMemories Blazing Sabot on May 21, 2012, 03:53:02 PM

Hello Pete, if I want to roll crimp a hull that was fold crimped, I'll stick a magic marker of the right size to press the front of the hull or use a Co2 cylinder on a drill and press the front of the hull then simply roll crimp!
Hope it helps.
Ajay
VdoMemorie's-Blazing Sabots

I'm trying to picture how that would work. Are you saying to leave them in as you roll crimp?

RPRNY · « **Reply #26 on:** May 22, 2012, 09:16:26 AM »

Quote from: kb on May 22, 2012, 04:05:55 AM

Quote from: VdoMemories Blazing Sabot on May 21, 2012, 03:53:02 PM
Hello Pete, if I want to roll crimp a hull that was fold crimped, I'll stick a magic marker of the right size to press the front of the hull or use a Co2 cylinder on a drill and press the front of the hull then simply roll crimp!
Hope it helps.
Ajay
VdoMemorie's-Blazing Sabots

I'm trying to picture how that would work. Are you saying to leave them in as you roll crimp?

I believe he's saying that he uses either such device as a dowel to start the crimp, ie to push the star crimp folds back down sufficiently to, when the dowel is removed, apply the crimping tool to the lip thus created.

VdoMemories Blazing Sabot · « **Reply #27 on:** May 22, 2012, 03:01:22 PM »

Sorry for the delay in replying

Hope it helps.
Ajay
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