Author Topic: Many Calling for Regime Change on Wall Street... (Read 8169 times)

Casull · « **Reply #151 on:** October 10, 2011, 11:31:16 AM »

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Don't think OWS will fall for this media propaganda

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!! Yep, from all appearances, they are a real brain trust.

BUGEYE · « **Reply #152 on:** October 10, 2011, 12:00:04 PM »

Quote from: TM7 on October 10, 2011, 11:15:09 AM

Quote from: BUGEYE on October 10, 2011, 09:41:35 AM
mass media will now get behind the occupiers because the democrat party has just put their official stamp of approval on a group of vandals, druggies, communists, and other folks who want MY money.
it was on the news about an hour ago.

Seems like self-styled concervatives have too, in the reciprocal... ..aren't the Demopublicans cool...

Don't think OWS will fall for this media propaganda, but average public always will....

..TM7

please stop reading "how to improve your word power" in readers digest and using words that you think gives you some great superior intellect. try using everyday language for a change.

Cabin4 · « **Reply #153 on:** October 10, 2011, 02:03:37 PM »

Quote from: TM7 on October 10, 2011, 03:37:53 AM

Quote from: BUGEYE on October 09, 2011, 06:45:59 AM
uh, can someone tell me what wall street is EXACTLY charged with. all I see is jealousy of rich folks.
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Bugeye:....For sophistry......gaming the system, wrecking the economy on purpose and deceiving and illegally swindling the American public to justify and fund their proposterous agendi of 'corporate socialism for them' and perverted capitalism for evrybody else.. Best described here in detail, fyi:

http://americanhistory.about.com/library/docs/bldecindependence.htm

C4... you're making stuff up again as The Corpo Spokeman resident again, I never agreed to general corpo welfare bailouts, never said that ..... And you must be in favor of 'offshoring' because you said that is what you've been doing for the last 30 years..!! Seem like you've been speiling and selling that line of stuff for a long time.... more sophistry and deception.

As I said if a corp wants to move offshore...go ahead...But don't expect to get back in, expect tariffs, do not expect the taxpayer to pay for this anti-nationalist move....do not expect corpo welfare at the expense of the American People. Do not expect the American public to buy into this line of spophistry. Just leave...somebody or something will take your place.

...TM7

You need to decide what your for and what your against.

Yes, I have been on the Operations side (Supply Chain, Logistics, etc) for 30+ years. I never said I've been off shoring jobs for 30 years. When you work in operations for global companies, you are directly exposed to these issues and problems at the business level, real life. Unlike you, your just an outside political hack that gets to critisize but never needs to comes up with the solution because you have no idea what the problems are that result in jobs going off shore. Its always easy just to say the companies are "greedy".

Its easy to critisize and play the greed and class ware fare cards. Look how well its worked! Look at what your Obama has done and is doing. Its making the problem worse.Thats the real problem.

1marty · « **Reply #154 on:** October 10, 2011, 04:48:08 PM »

We should take all the wealth from the wealthy, then guillitine them. It worked for the French.

Cabin4 · « **Reply #155 on:** October 10, 2011, 04:57:02 PM »

Thats what the OWS crowd wants. They don;t want to work, they just want to take from those who have.

OldSchoolRanger · « **Reply #156 on:** October 10, 2011, 06:56:55 PM »

Quote from: BUGEYE on October 10, 2011, 12:00:04 PM

Quote from: TM7 on October 10, 2011, 11:15:09 AM

Seems like self-styled concervatives have too, in the reciprocal... ..aren't the Demopublicans cool...

Don't think OWS will fall for this media propaganda, but average public always will....

..TM7
please stop reading "how to improve your word power" in readers digest and using words that you think gives you some great superior intellect. try using everyday language for a change.

And doing a very bad job, using them too!

billy_56081 · « **Reply #157 on:** October 11, 2011, 03:17:48 AM »

Quote from: Cabin4 on October 10, 2011, 04:57:02 PM

Thats what the OWS crowd wants. They don;t want to work, they just want to take from those who have.

You are exactly right, the parasite class wants to steal from the producers.

ironglow · « **Reply #158 on:** October 11, 2011, 04:34:32 AM »

TM;
The term "sophistry" would be better applied by these rioters..to the colleges and universities they attend. The original sophists were phony philosophers who charged great prices to give the gullible a "valuable education". Problem was, the price was far beyond the actual value..
These youngsters think since they have read a few books (who hasn't), that they know better than other people. A school can shovel all kinds of (selected) books and propaganda into their heads...but they cannot grant these kids WISDOM...
They are sorely lacking...

tattoo13 · « **Reply #159 on:** October 11, 2011, 08:43:36 AM »

Nope it's not an astro turf movement.
No way they willl be co-opted....

BUGEYE · « **Reply #160 on:** October 11, 2011, 08:47:34 AM »

thanks tatoo, I love it.

Casull · « **Reply #161 on:** October 11, 2011, 09:33:49 AM »

Yeah, I wonder just how many working families are involved, and how many are just plain old socialists. They can call themselves anything.

tattoo13 · « **Reply #162 on:** October 11, 2011, 09:36:28 AM »

The working families party is a proud socialist party. That's my problem with them.

My problem with the screen capture, if you can't see the problem with a so called protest being populated by people offering money to show up and protest, well I guess we are done discussing.
Ignorance is one thing, willful ignorance is another.

tattoo13 · « **Reply #163 on:** October 11, 2011, 10:07:26 AM »

Oct 5th Interview.

Community Organizers at work:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jOxERtkwN4&feature=player_embedded

powderman · « **Reply #164 on:** October 11, 2011, 11:59:22 AM »

TATTOO. Thanks for the link, she never said why they are not demonstrating in DC though. POWDERMAN.

BUGEYE · « **Reply #165 on:** October 11, 2011, 12:12:29 PM »

TM, wall street operates within the limits set by CONGRESS!!!!!!! how hard is that to understand ?
go after CONGRESS!!!!!!. those people actually WORKING on wall street are just like everyone here.
they're just trying to make a living.
but to get to work, they have to wade through absolute filth. I believe that somewhere you mentioned being there and watching a cop spray an "innocent" protester. So, are one of those urinating and defecating in the street. why would anyone except a democrat take the people serious?

ironglow · « **Reply #166 on:** October 11, 2011, 12:22:48 PM »

Haven't heard any democrats condemn the dope smoking or defecating on police cars. But then, maybe they don't see a problem.. especially since many of them lived like that themselves..3-4 decades ago..

... Maybe some of them STILL live like that !

Casull · « **Reply #167 on:** October 11, 2011, 12:59:52 PM »

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What is your problem with working families getting some representation since 1998?

You're making an assumption without any evidence.

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that's why there's 20k people in downtown NYCity right now,,,,and thousands elsewhere demonstrating..

I doubt there is anywhere near 20K, but if so, that's 20k demonstrating . . . and 9 million going about their business.

tattoo13 · « **Reply #168 on:** October 11, 2011, 01:04:35 PM »

Did I say they shouldn't have representation?

That can do what ever they like, but if you are going to sit here and try and say how great and honest this "protest" is, it is BS the whole protest from the start was an agenda of the left big left money. Same leftists that support big government.

The Working Families Party are socialist, look at their website, they want a EU type system. You know the system that is crumbling in the EU...

A spade is a spade and I call them like they are. You really think the Tea Party support status quo? You really don't pay much attention.

These "demonstrators" have little clue what they are demonstrating for and against, look down the line, they have conflicting messages, they just know they are unhappy and feel they deserve more. They deserve nothing, they bought into a false bill of goods and are being co-opted by socialists. The socialists who will not be happy until we are all equal in mediocracy.

tattoo13 · « **Reply #169 on:** October 11, 2011, 01:05:42 PM »

Oh yeah and check into the wonderful Working Families Party getting busted for breaking campaign finance law. Great guys...

ironglow · « **Reply #170 on:** October 11, 2011, 01:09:52 PM »

One common thread with every group doing tghis shameful OCCUPATION...they all want to destroy the United States as we all have known it...and remake it into an Obamanation..
A nation cannot stand with 20% working and 80% parasites...these clowns just can't do math !
You know, like.... "we've been in 57 states..with what;... 2 more to go" ?

BUGEYE · « **Reply #171 on:** October 11, 2011, 02:37:05 PM »

Bugeye...Nope. Other way around... Wall St sets the agenda and the rules...that's why there's 20k people in downtown NYCity right now,,,,and thousands elsewhere demonstrating..

..TM7

there are none so blind as those who will not see. don't know who said that but it fits here.
IT DOES NOT MATTER WHO PAYS THEM, I COULD BE THE ONE PAYING THEM. THE SAUDIS MAY BE PAYING THEM BUT THEY ARE SITTING IN DC LAUGHING THEIR BUTTS OFF AT THESE OWS IDIOTS
AND THE PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT THEM. AND TO KEEP YOU IN LINE THEY ENDORSE THE OWS AND THROW YOU OFF THE TRACK. the problem is in DC. if you thought you could get all your liberal ideas made into to law, you'd pay them some too.

tattoo13 · « **Reply #172 on:** October 11, 2011, 04:04:24 PM »

Quote from: TM7 on October 11, 2011, 01:33:25 PM

Okay so you don't like working families or support for millions ofworking families because that is termed 'socialism', but support for elitist Oiligarchy is Ok because that is termed 'capitalism' and the system should be skewed in favor of the elitist aristos at all cost and at all times. Interesting philosophy you got there....we had a revolution to get rid of this philosophy, btw.

..TM7

LOL your a funny guy, read Alinsky much?

The Working Families Party has little interest in "Working Families", much like you have little interest in the truth.
Follow the money it works for Wall Street bailouts, and it works for Occupy Wall Street.

ironglow · « **Reply #173 on:** October 11, 2011, 04:22:02 PM »

TM says;
" Okay so you don't like working families or support for millions ofworking families because that is termed 'socialism', but support for elitist Oiligarchy is Ok because that is termed 'capitalism' and the system should be skewed in favor of the elitist aristos at all cost and at all times. Interesting philosophy you got there....we had a revolution to get rid of this philosophy, btw.
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C'mon TM ..you're a real riot;
If these people are as you say "working families" ..... why are they lounging around, dirtying up the parks and streets ?
Not much "work" is being done there !
It would seem that if they were 'working people'..why aren't they out hustling work as best they can ? Perhaps it is as some say, that these are chiefly spoiled brats who have had everything handed to them and never had to WORK HARD in their lives..for anything..

nomosendero · « **Reply #174 on:** October 11, 2011, 04:37:39 PM »

Quote from: tattoo13 on October 11, 2011, 04:04:24 PM

Quote from: TM7 on October 11, 2011, 01:33:25 PM

Okay so you don't like working families or support for millions ofworking families because that is termed 'socialism', but support for elitist Oiligarchy is Ok because that is termed 'capitalism' and the system should be skewed in favor of the elitist aristos at all cost and at all times. Interesting philosophy you got there....we had a revolution to get rid of this philosophy, btw.

..TM7

LOL your a funny guy, read Alinsky much?

The Working Families Party has little interest in "Working Families", much like you have little interest in the truth.
Follow the money it works for Wall Street bailouts, and it works for Occupy Wall Street.

Yep

powderman · « **Reply #175 on:** October 11, 2011, 04:57:16 PM »

IG. HEH, some of them said they've been there over 3 weeks. Ya reckon they work night shift?? POWDERMAN.

OldSchoolRanger · « **Reply #176 on:** October 11, 2011, 06:10:52 PM »

Quote from: TM7 on October 11, 2011, 01:33:25 PM

Quote from: tattoo13 on October 11, 2011, 01:04:35 PM

The Working Families Party are socialist, look at their website, they want a EU type system. You know the system that is crumbling in the EU...

A spade is a spade and I call them like they are. You really think the Tea Party support status quo? You really don't pay much attention.

Okay so you don't like working families or support for millions ofworking families because that is termed 'socialism', but support for elitist Oiligarchy is Ok because that is termed 'capitalism' and the system should be skewed in favor of the elitist aristos at all cost and at all times. Interesting philosophy you got there....we had a revolution to get rid of this philosophy, btw.

..TM7

TM - Actually tatoo13 said he didn't like the Working Families Party.

He didn't say he doesn't like working families or support millions of working families. Your trying to make it seem that he isn't sympathetic to actual working families, when in fact that's not true. While in reality your the one who is in favor of socialists like the Working Families Party.

The only work the OWS crowd does is, working hard at not working.

Cabin4 · « **Reply #177 on:** October 11, 2011, 06:13:31 PM »

Quote from: TM7 on October 11, 2011, 01:33:25 PM

Quote from: tattoo13 on October 11, 2011, 01:04:35 PM
Did I say they shouldn't have representation?

That can do what ever they like, but if you are going to sit here and try and say how great and honest this "protest" is, it is BS the whole protest from the start was an agenda of the left big left money. Same leftists that support big government.

The Working Families Party are socialist, look at their website, they want a EU type system. You know the system that is crumbling in the EU...

A spade is a spade and I call them like they are. You really think the Tea Party support status quo? You really don't pay much attention.

These "demonstrators" have little clue what they are demonstrating for and against, look down the line, they have conflicting messages, they just know they are unhappy and feel they deserve more. They deserve nothing, they bought into a false bill of goods and are being co-opted by socialists. The socialists who will not be happy until we are all equal in mediocracy.
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Okay so you don't like working families or support for millions ofworking families because that is termed 'socialism', but support for elitist Oiligarchy is Ok because that is termed 'capitalism' and the system should be skewed in favor of the elitist aristos at all cost and at all times. Interesting philosophy you got there....we had a revolution to get rid of this philosophy, btw.

..TM7

TM, Likely most everyone on this forum is in or from a working family. So to suggest that because they don’t support OWS, they are against working families is ridiculous. Most working families work for companies, family business and corporations. So to ask them to join a movement against their employer, is ridiculous as well. And for what? So the government can take more of their earnings of these families and their employer and give it to those who don’t do anything? Or to give it to Obama and congress so they can waste it?

What exactly are your expectations here? And just so I can get in front of your criticism, I can tell you that everyone I work with is from or supporting a family. What would you like me and my peers to tell them? All our manufacturing is outsourced overseas now but these people in Operations, Logistics, Finance, Legal, Engineering, Marketing, Sales, etc are all working to support their families. About 750 people in our company and a few hundred others employed at our Resellers and Distributors who would all be out of a job if we followed your sinking ship model of business as we squeak by just to turn a single digit net profit margin. We are competing with other companies for business including those based outside the US who all use low cost regions for manufacturing. If it was up to you, all of us would be out of a job. It is not possible for us our a USA based supplier of contract manufacturing services to make our business model work any other way. Our government has made it so cost prohibitive to open a plant here. Our last USA based factory vendor threw in the towel late last year. They have no way to make their business model work in Huntsville AL anymore. It moved to China. Great plan TM7!

Casull · « **Reply #178 on:** October 12, 2011, 03:17:59 AM »

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I don't know much about the WFParty

And yet you make the assumption that they represent "millions of families and working folks"?

Casull · « **Reply #179 on:** October 12, 2011, 05:24:21 AM »

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In America, home of democracy, it is odd that millions of families and workers coming together are termed 'socialist' as perjorative

Talk about "poppycock" and "propoganda". You take the cake with that patent falsehood. Just where are these "millions of families and workers coming together"? Pure propogandized BS.

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Your allegiance to monopoly capitalism as a saving force for working families is admirable

Well to quote you again, "I didn't say that...you said that".

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but do not expect regular folks to genuflect to this Oligarchy as you do in some kind of mass Stocholm Princple.

Now that is funny. You wouldn't know "regular folks" if they bit you in the backside.