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The difference between social security and welfare.
« on: September 26, 2011, 03:40:04 PM »
This is very appropriate in light of what is going on !!! Remember, not only did you contribute to Social Security but your employer did too. It totaled 15% of your income before taxes. If you averaged only 30K over your 49 year working life, that’s close to $220,500. If you calculate the future value of $4,500 per year (yours & your employer’s contribution) at a simple 5% (less than what the govt. pays on the money that it borrows), after 49 years of working (me) you’d have $892,919.98. If you took out only 3% per year, you would receive $26,787.60 per year and it would last better than 30 years, and that’s with no interest paid on that final amount on deposit! If you bought an annuity and it paid 4% per year, you’d have a lifetime income of $2,976.40 per month. The folks in Washington have pulled off a bigger Ponzi scheme than Bernie Madhoff ever had. Entitlement, my foot, I paid cash for my social security insurance!!!! Just because they borrowed the money, doesn't make my benefits some kind of charity or handout !! Congressional benefits, aka free healthcare, outrageous retirement packages, 67 paid holidays, three weeks paid vacation, unlimited paid sick days, now that's welfare, and they have the nerve to call my retirement entitlements !!!!!! They call Social Security and Medicare an entitlement even though most of us have been paying for it all our working lives and now when it’s time for us to collect, the government is running out of money. Why did the government borrow from it in the first place? Reprinted from another site. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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Re: The difference between social security and welfare.
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2011, 03:48:53 PM »
Anthony Weiner that pervert congressman from NY will receive a lump sum payment as a pension at age 55 of over $1.2 million which he can shelter in an IRA. I don't hear the repubics or dems claiming that it is an "entitlement". These congressmen on both sides of the aisle are a bunch of low down scum.

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Re: The difference between social security and welfare.
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2011, 09:55:40 AM »
TM7 keep in mind that when it started those who got benifits first paid little or nothing into it. Second as it was writter no money was to be borrowed from it.
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Re: The difference between social security and welfare.
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2011, 11:16:33 AM »
SS  is risk free????  what rock are you living under?  the colored boy in the whitehouse just threatened to withhold my disability check.
if I can't buy my meds, I'm at great risk.

and before anyone jumps me about the term I used.

he belongs to the N A A  colored  P
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Re: The difference between social security and welfare.
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2011, 03:19:56 PM »
tm7, we now know your true nature.  you are lower than the things I squash under my feet.
yes I am disabled. the mere act of sitting down too hard in my recliner causes stress fractures in my back and pelvis.  my bones are too far gone to put in rods because the fractures don't heal.
my hands are useless for almost everything because of a violent tremor.
my head shakes so bad that I can very seldom enjoy a hot cup of coffee.
bear in mind that things can come back to bite you when you open your trap and spew this kind of crap.
now go whine to matt and get me banned you miserable coward.
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Re: The difference between social security and welfare.
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2011, 03:44:29 PM »
Keep in mind that many who draw Social Security, never paid a dime in.
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Re: The difference between social security and welfare.
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2011, 04:19:51 PM »
BUGEYE. Good post Sir. All those insults at you are just bait, don't bite, thats why he/she/it is here. Some folks don't have a life and it makes em feel big and important. POWDERMAN.  :o
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Re: The difference between social security and welfare.
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2011, 04:23:34 PM »
Keep in mind that many who draw Social Security, never paid a dime in.
that is correct, and it should be stopped! it never will be but it should be.ive worked all my life and still do but ive been within spittin distance of accidents on the job that could of crippled me.if yu have never paid in you shouldnt draw.what im against is career laziness i guess.its a touchy subject for sure.i hate to say it but i know maybe 20 people that could work but draw disability becuz they chose not to.a buddy of mine lives in a small town nearby, pop maybe 100 souls.him and his wife are the only ones in the whole town not drawing a check.it seems if you cant work in your chosen field, yu get a check.look around. i know guys that are getting a check selling firewood for cash?thats the hardest work there is!dont even get me started. im glad its there if i get hurt. and im glad its there for the actually disabled but jeez!

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Re: The difference between social security and welfare.
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2011, 04:30:48 PM »
BUGEYE. Good post Sir. All those insults at you are just bait, don't bite, thats why he/she/it is here. Some folks don't have a life and it makes em feel big and important. POWDERMAN.  :o
PM, I've also had 2 heart attacks, but if it weren't for all that other stuff I could work as a security guard or something. have to lay my right hand down and type with my left.
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Re: The difference between social security and welfare.
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2011, 07:13:06 PM »
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The difference between social security and welfare.

I believe that for some folks, the diff goes something like this:

Social Security: money they get
Welfare: money some colored boy gets, or someone else equally despised.

...and that's about it.
Jesus said we should treat other as we'd want to be treated... and he didn't qualify that by their party affiliation, race, or even if they're of diff religion.

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Re: The difference between social security and welfare.
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2011, 04:40:29 AM »
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The difference between social security and welfare.

I believe that for some folks, the diff goes something like this:

Social Security: money they get
Welfare: money some colored boy gets, or someone else equally despised.

...and that's about it.
That's calling the truth the truth; hitting the nail on the head, etc., etc. 

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Re: The difference between social security and welfare.
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2011, 05:36:06 AM »
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The difference between social security and welfare.

I believe that for some folks, the diff goes something like this:

Social Security: money they get
Welfare: money some colored boy gets, or someone else equally despised.

...and that's about it.

This statement is laughable.  I paid the government hundreds of thousands of dollars and I want it back.  Welfare shouldn't even exist period......for anyone.
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Re: The difference between social security and welfare.
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2011, 06:14:51 AM »
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The difference between social security and welfare.

I believe that for some folks, the diff goes something like this:

Social Security: money they get
Welfare: money some colored boy gets, or someone else equally despised.

...and that's about it.

yt3,

Your statement is partly accurate.  I shall, for the sake of discussion, that your term colored will also include Hispanic persons.   I want to add that there is also a sizable "white trash" population on welfare too.   The "white trash" populations roughly equals the black and Hispanic numbers.  Below you will find some interesting numbers on welfare parasites:

Based on the 2006 TOTAL population of each respective race in the United States, it is:
 37.8% white* (37.8% of the white population is on welfare)

 27.78% black* (27.78% of the black population is on welfare)

 11.47% Hispanic* ** (11.47% of the Hispanic population is on welfare)


 Another way to look at this [size=100%][/size][size=inherit]data[/size][size=100%][/size] is based on the total number of people who receive welfare. It is:

 39% white 11,661,000 of 29,900,000 recipients

 38% black 11,362,000 of 29,900,000

 17% Hispanic 5,083,000 of 29,900,000[/color]
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Re: The difference between social security and welfare.
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2011, 06:15:22 AM »
Lots of luck on that Swampy.. ;)

And welfare dosen't exist anymore, the tearm is to degrading.. The PC name is General Assistance or GA for short.

And "colored boy" which was correct when I was growing up in the deep south is not PC. It long ago went to "black man" and now to "african-american" unless you happen to be a white guy born in africa, then you don't count... ;)

My how times change.. I used to be a "southern gentleman", now I'm just "white trash".  :o

I too hope to reclaim some of what I paid into SS, but it's not looking good. Regards,
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Re: The difference between social security and welfare.
« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2011, 06:34:05 AM »
pastorp,

I grew up with the term "colored boy" myself.  It ain't pc, and I ain't gonna correct it for no liberal nowhere.   And welfare is welfare, despite what some do-gooder liberal wants to call it.   When in public, I use the word 'black man' or 'black woman'.

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'White trash' are the welfare parasites who do not work by choice.  They are the moocher class.

I am certain you will receive that which is yours as fruits of labor.  Remember, the Southern Gentleman is both a state of mind  and a way of life.   It is never truly lost.

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« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2011, 09:12:09 AM »
I know lot's of "white trash" that have good jobs and lots of money.
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Re: The difference between social security and welfare.
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2011, 09:23:25 AM »
wealfare might be SOICAL SECURITY , take it away and roits would erupt in the streets.
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Re: The difference between social security and welfare.
« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2011, 12:01:28 PM »
The social security "lock box" is nothing more than a pile of I.O.U.s that the career criminals in government spent on other things. They hope enough money comes in to cover their donkey before the house of cards collapses. If that isn't a Ponzi scheme,what is?

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« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2011, 12:26:08 PM »
SwampThing, I was not saying what is true in my mind, just what is politically correct.  ;) By your response I was not sure you understood that.

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Re: The difference between social security and welfare.
« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2011, 01:48:55 PM »
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I believe that for some folks, the diff goes something like this:

Social Security: money they get
Welfare: money some colored boy gets, or someone else equally despised.

...and that's about it.

 
That has got to be about the dumbest thing I've read here.  Shows a complete lack of understanding.   :o
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Re: The difference between social security and welfare.
« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2011, 02:13:16 PM »
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I believe that for some folks, the diff goes something like this:

Social Security: money they get
Welfare: money some colored boy gets, or someone else equally despised.

...and that's about it.

That has got to be about the dumbest thing I've read here.  Shows a complete lack of understanding.   :o

Naw, it shows a solid understanding of certain types... you might be one of them.
Or not.
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« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2011, 02:51:03 PM »
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Naw, it shows a solid understanding of certain types... you might be one of them.
Or not.

 
 
Well, it clearly illustrates a racist (the author, at least by implication of the statement).  But, no, it shows a very clear lack of understanding of those two types of governmental programs.
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Re: The difference between social security and welfare.
« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2011, 05:42:40 PM »
What is a Country of 300,000,000 people with 100,000,000 on welfare doing wrong/right?

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« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2011, 05:54:28 PM »
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I believe that for some folks, the diff goes something like this:

Social Security: money they get
Welfare: money some colored boy gets, or someone else equally despised.

...and that's about it.

 
That has got to be about the dumbest thing I've read here.  Shows a complete lack of understanding.   :o

 
If not the dumbest, it's certainly no lower than 2nd place. POWDERMAN.  ::) ::)
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« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2011, 06:01:40 PM »
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I believe that for some folks, the diff goes something like this:

Social Security: money they get
Welfare: money some colored boy gets, or someone else equally despised.

...and that's about it.

 
That has got to be about the dumbest thing I've read here.  Shows a complete lack of understanding.   :o

 
If not the dumbest, it's certainly no lower than 2nd place. POWDERMAN.  ::) ::)

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Re: The difference between social security and welfare.
« Reply #25 on: September 29, 2011, 04:12:50 AM »
SS take money from people and give it back later. Wealfare take money from working people and give it to lazy people .
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« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2011, 04:23:06 AM »
I'm reading a book by Floyd Patterson, former hvy wt champ. He was born in 1935, one of 11 kids. Loving parents and they worked hard. He told of his Dad coming home from work totally exhausted and just flopping on the bed and sleeping without supper. He'd bring home money every week, lay it on the table then see what was left for food after paying bills. His mother brought in what she could too, and Floyd would shine shoes on weekends and give the money to his parents. Big difference from today. POWDERMAN.  :( :( :( :( :( :(
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