help confused???

[notfastenough77]

i have the sb2 .44 mag with a bsa huntsman on it it has the micro groove barrel. i was setting in the scope today and just about had when i couldnt get my group  to raise on the target i adjusted the scope  then shot still the same then i adjusted again and still the same . then i shot again and it shot way high then adjusted it down and it still shot high then i adjusted it down again then it shot way low but it is grouping tight i am think ing maybee scope rings to tight but i dont know thanks in advance for any help

[Lon371]

With good groups, you know its not the gun. I would try a different scope.
 
Lonny

[Dinny]

I would ventire to say it's not the Handi. I have heard similar complaints of other BSA scopes. The tip I learned about adjusting scopes- There's a spring in both adjustment turrets. The spring compresses when it is turned down/in. To keep the adjustments consistent, always go past the number of clicks and then come back to it. This helps adjust the spring to the point you want. Also, I always give it a slight tap after I placed the adjustment cap back on. This just helps to further settle it in place. Shooting it will do the same, but it seems to frustrate me more and waste my ammo.




Thanks, Dinny

[tacklebury]

I just had this with a Traditions 3-9x40mm.  On my BC, it moved every time I shot basically.  Was only trying it since it was free, but it's in the trash now.  lol

[thejanitor]

I had a similar but not the same experience with a Simmons last weekend. It moved a little when I needed and adjusted for a lot, I moved it 16 clicks it moved an inch moved it 12 more clicks it moved another inch the next shot was over a foot low. moved it back and it came back then with two more adjustments I got on the dot and then it was on, but it was a new to me used simmons and had I done the Dinny adjustment past and back it may have settled in each time. I put money on your scope being all of the problem. Enjoy the gun once you get past this.  thejanitor

[45-70.gov]

HAD A BUSHNEL  TRS-25


resently seems  like iit needed recoil to make the adjustments take
first shot after adjustment and it didn't move
second shot  and the  shot moved the apropriate amound


i have heard of this....so will slightly tap  all scopes from now on after adjusting

[notfastenough77]

foun a couple of issues when i took the scope off. my weaver base was a little loose so gonna lock tite it down. then the bolt that locks down the scope rings was stripped started looking at the bolt and where it counter sinks in to the rings it was stuck out an 1/8 and i am pretty sure its supposed to be flush but taking rings and scope back to shop to let owner take a look at them he just opened up his shop so pretty sure he will make it right

[notfastenough77]

by the way thanks for all the responses this is a great site

[twoeighty]

roger all the above---any scope that tracks accurately and consistently is worth its weight in gold----otherwise it's just weight---as in paper!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
i've had high end scopes that didn't track and low end ones that did perfectly
 
sometimes it's a crap shoot---pity
 
hopefully the respective manufacturors will stand by their products----
 
good luck---280

[Austin from NC]

I learned a long time ago to give any scope a few good taps after adjustment. The crosshairs will stick from time to time. I haven't made an adjustment without tapping the scope in many years it just comes second nature.

[ratdog]

janator had the same problem with my simmons put a new one on same problem after first adjustment. i got another scope im going to try.first problem i have had with simmons.

[thejanitor]

I have had it happen with a few scopes over my years, I don't feel they are junk, they just are not scopes I would choose to take on a trip where you range an animal and whip the knop to elevate..... Once locked on they are good to go, but the slight tap mentioned above needs to be just that, a friend I was shooting with 2 years ago had the plastic adj knobs both cracked on his scope (just the part you grab with your finger once the caps are off) I bet it is from the not so gentle tap while sighting in.
Hope you all have a fun, safe hunt this fall. - thejanitor

[Junior1942]

Cheap scopes don't adjust well at the far edges of optical zero.  Start here http://www.castbullet.com/misc/zero.htm and adjust the scope's optical zero back to the factory zero setting.  You can leave the scope on the rifle and use a small hand mirror in front of the scope's objective end.  You need strong light.
When the scope is on optical zero, take the barrel off your Handi-Rifle, wedge it securely against bags, etc., and look down the bore at a far-away object and wiggle the barrel to center the object in the bore.  Then look through the scope.  I bet your crosshairs will be centered far, far away from the far away object.  If so, your optical-zero is too far from bore-zero.  That means you have a mount problem or even a hole mis-alignment problem. 
A few inches off at 100 yards is ok, but a few feet isn't.  You won't be able to zero the crosshairs with the bore without putting the adjustments in the almost-off-the-scope range.  Read the article I linked.
 

[dave29]

I learned a long time ago to give any scope a few good taps after adjustment. The crosshairs will stick from time to time. I haven't made an adjustment without tapping the scope in many years it just comes second nature.

That's the same thing I do. My dad taught me that when I was a kid and I have been doing it ever since.

[gcrank1]

I will bet the guy who broke the turret while 'tapping' wasnt tapping the tube (top for elev., side for windage) to settle the internal cell. He might even be like the guy I know who always figures if a little good, a lot is better.

[notfastenough77]

well guys i thought it was fixed but went to sight it in today ad after 10 shots or so the scope rings came loose from the base again these are tasco rings mounted on the base that came with the gun. when i put the rings on finger tight on base the scope moves foward and bacwards.should the bolt that runs through the scope rings fit snug in the grovess i am at a lost on this

[quickdtoo]

The rings should be pushed all the way forward in the slot before you tighten them, then mount the scopes. If they're the same cheesy Tasco rings I've see before with the sheet metal keeper, I'd dump em and get some good rings and save yourself the headache, the inexpensive Leupold Rifleman rings at Walmart are much better. 

Tim