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450 MONGO/ attn: cknight98 and other interested parties...
« on: January 09, 2004, 01:42:19 PM »
.450 Mongo.  I would like to bring this back to the top.  I just recently found out that others had been experimenting with this.  I was fooling around with it last year, but gave up due to brass-sizing problems.  Recently, I have been snowed-in, and had time to fool around with it.  I have succesfully formed brass using the suggested method with 410 shot cups, as suggested on Chris' old (almost forgotten) website.  However the base of the shells were not fully fire-formed and had extraction problems.  The mouth of the shells was good though and I remedied the problem by re-loading them again with a 200 gr cast 45. Now they cycle perfectly.  I E-mailed everyone involved at the old site, but all mail came back undeleverable, but.....the name 'cknight' sounded very familiar...and now I have found the 'instigator' here at Graybeard's.
  I have a couple of real pretty bullets here, I would like to see this developing cartridge research brought back to life.  This being a cross between 444 Marlin/ and 45-70..fired in 45/410 chambers....I realize this could be a potentially powerful round for the Contender and Encore...but my interest at this point is focusing on a XXXLONG-COLT that does not have the normal 'long jump' to the rifling as does a 45 Colt.  So far, I am staying with modest loads with cast bullets.  As I said earlier...I am very snowed-in, it is impossible to get anywhere to do any real testing with these loads, but I find it totally fascinating.
  On the other hand....I do not understand why these barrels do not have the rifling start where it would be more effective with the Colts, it seems to me that the smaller diameter 410's would fit inside this rifling.  But then again...if they did it right in the first place....then I wouldn't be haveing so much fun playing with the Mongo.
  How about some more thoughts here?  Please correct me if I am wrong with any of this stuff, or feel free to add and expand with your ideas.  Robert
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450 MONGO/ attn: cknight98 and other inter
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2004, 02:17:40 PM »
Have you made a chamber cast of your barrel?  This website was posted somewhere, you might review the findings before proceeding.  I've been reading all posting on the 450 Mongo with interest as I have 3 barrels for the 45/410 and looking for alternatives for the long bullet jump.  Keep the pot stirred and good luck.

http://www.endtimesreport.com/410reloading.html

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Thanks for the link Doc
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2004, 06:43:35 AM »
That was an interesting read.  I will have to try some of the 7.62x 54 brass.
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450 MONGO/ attn: cknight98 and other inter
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2004, 10:51:34 AM »
Robert,  Check out WWW.Boartuffoutdoors.com in the T/C section there is a post about the 450 mongo that may interest you.

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Thanks X
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2004, 11:06:13 AM »
.....I'd really like to get some of the original folks that were doing it....they are around here somewhere....
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Chris, are you near Knoxville?
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2004, 06:46:51 AM »
My boys live out there...
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Well say Hello to Dolly for me if you see her...
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2004, 07:07:23 AM »
I haven't been down there for 4 years.
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