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"De-tuned" 695 FPS springers
« on: October 14, 2011, 10:15:13 AM »
Wal-Mart doesn't sell fire arms in my area any more, but the other day I noticed they had some De-tuned springers, including a nitro with the velocity decreased to 695 fps so it's under the magic 700 fps that makes it a fire arm in Il.  Don't  know why any one would buy them unless the can be re-tuned easily. Go down to Bass Pro show your card and buy a full power. My old 66 PowerMaster come close to that.

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Re: "De-tuned" 695 FPS springers
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2011, 09:54:58 PM »
it depends on how it was de-tuned.  If a weaker spring were installed, that is easily fixed, if the air port was left small, that could be difficult to fix.  If the price is low enough (like $150.00 lower than a normal air rifle) you could buy one, and ship it to an air rifle tuner and have a better rifle than an out of the box one.
 
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Re: "De-tuned" 695 FPS springers
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2011, 04:57:51 AM »
If the modified by weakening the spring it could be a good buy for a youth rifle? Probably close to a 2100 in real world power. Have to check what the same model is at Dunham's or Bass-Pro.

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Re: "De-tuned" 695 FPS springers
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2011, 07:06:20 AM »
then again there is the possibility of simple marketing and "foolin" with the numbers.  The Europeans tend to use the pounds feet (foot pounds ) energy out put rating, which is harder to fool around with.  12 ft lbs being the line between air gun and firearm. As an example the Beeman Kodiak .25 cal  when loaded with a 21 grain pellet chronographed at 795 fps, same gun loaded with 31 ggrain pellet chronoghaphs at 642 fps.  In both cases the gun still produces 28 ft lbs of pellet energy, but the heavier pellet shows a slower speed.  Read some of the catalogues and they will give two velocities for each gun, one for standard weight pellets, one for the ultra light weight pellets.  It's all marketing (at least in the catalogs)  so why would a factory go to the expence of building different rifles for one or two states when they can design a test to have the same gun pass the states regulations??
 
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Re: "De-tuned" 695 FPS springers
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2011, 01:27:50 PM »
other than wal-mart twisted their arm. I can go to Bass Pro & buy the full power since I have a FOID.

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Re: "De-tuned" 695 FPS springers
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2011, 11:47:28 AM »
I asked the guy in sporting goods what the deal was about the "detuning". He told me it allowed for them to sell it without an Illinois FOID card.

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Re: "De-tuned" 695 FPS springers
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2012, 11:25:21 AM »
I confirmed this with Crosman. If I thought there was an easy way to add an honest 200 FPS I would buy one. One guy who owns one says it's a good shooter.


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Re: "De-tuned" 695 FPS springers
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2012, 07:52:14 AM »
I asked the guy in sporting goods what the deal was about the "detuning". He told me it allowed for them to sell it without an Illinois FOID card.


and I get funny looks when I refer to "The Communist State of Illinois"  :o

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Re: "De-tuned" 695 FPS springers
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2012, 01:13:13 AM »
I love IL. We are going to be the only state in the union with 2 governors in Federal prison at the same time.

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Re: "De-tuned" 695 FPS springers
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2012, 04:42:49 PM »
Re/Illinois. My youngest has moved to Wyoming, I may follow.Anyone interested in a house in central Illinois??

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Re: "De-tuned" 695 FPS springers
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2012, 05:49:08 PM »
Re/Illinois. My youngest has moved to Wyoming, I may follow.Anyone interested in a house in central Illinois??


for target practice with my cannon?? nah I can't get enough elevation to reach that far  ;D



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Re: "De-tuned" 695 FPS springers
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2012, 02:55:34 AM »
it is easy to add the velocity back, especially if it's the titan gp. go to crosman.com and order the full strength ram and put it in. better yet go online and order an enforcer 180 bar ram and really get some snot out of it!!