Author Topic: Seems like nothing left to talk about here (Read 721 times)

Sourdough · « **on:** October 15, 2011, 01:43:54 PM »

Politics being moved, was alright with me. It needed to go away, caused too much animosity here.

But now it seems every time someone puts in a good post and we start to discuss it a modartor moves it to another area. Often time we did not even know the other forum existed, and no one else will go there to discuss it anyway. Like with Dale talking about going out shooting with his daughter. He wanted to discuss it with guys he is familure with on this forum. That is wh6y he posted it here. I only go to four forums period. Rarely do I go anywhere else, not interested. the group of guys I want to talk to are on these and I am not interested in going anywhere else. Round The Ole Pot-Bellied Stove, NEF/H&R Centerfire, Hunting In Alaska, and Politics. Get into a thread, ejoying discussing it, Then it gets moved. That ends it for me, I don't follow it to new location.

After all this is Round The Ole Pot-bellied Stove. Seems like this forum is dying.

Old Syko · « **Reply #1 on:** October 15, 2011, 02:38:52 PM »

I've thought the same thing for some time now. It seems the site has become so diversified that no matter the subject it can be put somewhere else and that's a shame. There seems to be certain groups who choose to clump together no matter the subject and I really see no problem with that. Maybe we would be better off if some subjects were allowed to stay for their duration even if they could possibly be put somewhere else. It seems to be more about the people than the particular subject anyway. JMHO.

Spirithawk · « **Reply #2 on:** October 15, 2011, 03:59:13 PM »

I have to agree. I've made a couple posts that I really thought fit right in here, but down the line the responses added a twist that caused them to be moved elsewhere...where they promptly died. Kinda makes one wonder what is left that does fit here?

quasne.inc · « **Reply #3 on:** October 15, 2011, 04:30:15 PM »

What if other forums were started for specific groups that tend to gather. Not to be exclusive, but to let a bunch of people that are similar just talk about whatever suits them.

Sourdough · « **Reply #4 on:** October 15, 2011, 05:10:45 PM »

quasne.inc: That's the way it used to be here. Then here lately things started getting moved. You go to those forums where they get moved to and it's dead over there. Now it's dying here. Just because we happen to say something funny, it's classified as "HUMER" and moved. We can't then share it with the ones here that we know and think will appreciate it. It goes off in never-never-land.

Beginning to feel this is a no post zone, it goes somewhere else.

blind ear · « **Reply #5 on:** October 15, 2011, 05:11:43 PM »

I quit following and posting like I once did because my posts kept getting deleted. I might make the same post two or three times in a thread and it would keep disapearing. My openion was banned. ear

powderman · « **Reply #6 on:** October 15, 2011, 05:14:23 PM »

SOURDOUGH. Glad you said it cause I feel the same way. Before I start a new thread I try real hard to put it in the right place. Like others I rarely follow a thread that gets kicked around. Too tiresome going to all those different forums, but thats just me. POWDERMAN.

Sourdough · « **Reply #7 on:** October 15, 2011, 05:22:59 PM »

I also quite writing my stories, because they started going to some off the wall place where no one seemed to see them. Since no one seldom responded I just quite writing. I have started to write another one, but gave up thinking the people I want to share it with will not see it anyway. I don't go there, why should they.

hillbill · « **Reply #8 on:** October 15, 2011, 05:52:32 PM »

sourdough, i liked your stories about life up there.and would like to hear more.let us know where yu post them.? here in MO we jus have deer and the odd cougar and and black bear that wanders up from arkansaw.

powderman · « **Reply #9 on:** October 15, 2011, 06:07:46 PM »

ROG. I enjoyed your stories too, even read them to my wife. I don't remember anything you ever posted that should not have been right here. I post mostly on the political forum instead of here because I'm never sure what will stay or go. If it goes I rarely follow it. POWDERMAN.

DalesCarpentry · « **Reply #10 on:** October 15, 2011, 06:39:57 PM »

Yes I agree with you folks also. I like it here at the stove and thats where people know me. Those are the people I like to talk too. Rodger I also enjoy reading the stories that you write. You have led quit a life my friend. This forum is dying and does not have the trafic it had a year ago thats for sure. Take care Dale

powderman · « **Reply #11 on:** October 15, 2011, 07:05:21 PM »

I could post more subjects here but I never know what will stay or get buried. There have been several deaths close to me that I wanted to share a bit with friends but did not post in that other forum because few ever go there so I just remained silent. I miss your experiences Rog. POWDERMAN.

Brett · « **Reply #12 on:** October 16, 2011, 03:26:44 AM »

Agreed. The site has become too compartmentalized. The 'Ol Pot Bellied Stove forum was the busiest forum on the site. This used to be a place for old friends to gather and just talk about anything that came to mind, just like the old days when the good 'ol boys would gather around the pot bellied stove in the back of the general store (hence it's name). But now we are being told that we can't discuss "this" or "that" here, that we have to take it to the barber shop or the florist shop. Well that's not the crowd we want to hang out with. All our friends are right here.

GB and the Mod's please let the Pot bellied Stove be.

magooch · « **Reply #13 on:** October 16, 2011, 03:41:25 AM »

I suspect there must have been some pressure put on Bill to separate political discussions from the Pot-Bellied Stove, because some folks weren't into politics. It's Bill's forum and I for one am grateful that Bill tolerates us at all.

Like the rest of you, I didn't have any problem with discussing just about anything around the "Stove"; it was by its nature a catchall to begin with. Anyway, I hope folks will not let this wonderful forum die.

bobg · « **Reply #14 on:** October 16, 2011, 03:54:10 AM »

I have noticed the same thing. I asked a guestion on a forum the other day. It was moved to a forum that i didn't think had anything to do with what i asked. Haven't seen any one else mention it but the whole site has slowed down. Takes forever for it to do anything. If i ask i am told it is my computer. It IS NOT. No problems with any other sites i go to. To bad too because this is my favorite site.

blind ear · « **Reply #15 on:** October 16, 2011, 04:37:40 AM »

Change the name of the thread from "Round the Pot-Bellied Stove" to "If it doesn't fit anywhere else we will talk about it here". ear

Old Syko · « **Reply #16 on:** October 16, 2011, 05:59:32 AM »

Quote from: magooch on October 16, 2011, 03:41:25 AM

I suspect there must have been some pressure put on Bill to separate political discussions from the Pot-Bellied Stove, because some folks weren't into politics. It's Bill's forum and I for one am grateful that Bill tolerates us at all.

I certainly don't miss the politics and religion discussions and feel they each should be kept separate. I've always felt that aside from nothing more than passing comments, these 2 subjects serve only to develop animosity among otherwise rational people. Even the local hangouts where I'm from handle these two subjects with kid gloves and in small portions. Other than those two, almost any subject is open for debate. But then again, I think folks talking face to face seem to show a bit more respect for one-another.

Graybeard · « **Reply #17 on:** October 16, 2011, 06:54:50 AM »

We had a server crash in the wee hours of the morning Saturday. I think Matt said around 1:00 and he got it back up about 3:00 PM yesterday. It is limping tho and will I think require him to go to Atlanta and put hands on to fix. He seems to think we are going to have to replace the hard drive or did when we spoke about it yesterday.

I think the symptoms were there to see before but I wasn't able to convince him of it.

I believe the new server is about ready to be taken over as well to replace the Dallas servers so hopefully he can do both early next week.

As to your concerns about this forum I'll grant you that some times things are moved that could have stayed longer or just have been left. When we have active forums for topics that's where they really should be place initially. When the forum is not so well used that it belongs in I have no problem with letting it run its course here then moving it when discussion dies on it as it generally does on most topics. I did that to Dale's thread on his truck problem. After discussion died here I moved it to the Automotive forum which is fairly active and when an item goes there it does get responses fairly quickly.

There is nothing wrong with jokes here or funny stuff but if it's just a joke and nothing more the humor forum is more appropriate and jokes posted there do get read and responded to.

Folks have created the situation we have now by asking for a new forum for every conceiveable topic they can imagine and talking others into supporting their requests even when I knew up front it would never get used.

The Bolt action Rifle forum used to always be one of our most used forums as well. Now there is a forum for every brand of bolt action rifle out there and the posts are spread all over the place.

We have 220+ forums and quite honestly that's too many in my opinion. I don't know that I'll mess with it much this year but for the new year I very likely will again make some major changes to include deleting forums seeing little to no use and combining them with forums that do get use and in which the discussion is appropriate.

Old Syko · « **Reply #18 on:** October 16, 2011, 08:01:00 AM »

Hmmmm. No wonder this place is as popular as it is. I'ts run by someone who actually pays attention and makes changes as necessary. As the old saying goes, the only constant is change.

Spirithawk · « **Reply #19 on:** October 16, 2011, 08:03:27 AM »

Quote from: Old Syko on October 16, 2011, 08:01:00 AM

Hmmmm. No wonder this place is as popular as it is. I'ts run by someone who actually pays attention and makes changes as necessary. As the old saying goes, the only constant is change.

+1 Couldn't agree more.

Sourdough · « **Reply #20 on:** October 16, 2011, 09:18:50 AM »

Graybeard: I love this forum, and Graybeard Outdoors. I'm going to express my openion. I think there are too many differant areas to use. Back when there were a smaller group I often looked through other areas. But as the list grew and grew, I just got overwhelmed. I never seem to have the time to just sit and go through the forums to see what is there. I go to the four forums I mentioned earlier, and that's it. Oh, sometimes I will look at one, see an interesting post go to make a commit and get a warning that the post is over so many days old, do I really want to make a post there. I feel a lot of the forums are not being used often. Just my openion.

The NEF/H&R forums are still going heavy, but I don't think all the other single make forums are getting that much traffic.

Brett · « **Reply #21 on:** October 16, 2011, 02:51:42 PM »

Yep, the site has become too diversified and cumbersome for me. I look forward to GB trimming it back after the first of the year. I understand giving politics it's own forum to help keep the peace but several of the other non-gun forums such as Today's Important News, Off Topic Discussions, Humor and Strange or Unusual Experiences Outdoors could easily be lumped under the OPBS forum

powderman · « **Reply #22 on:** October 16, 2011, 03:37:17 PM »

Quote from: Brett on October 16, 2011, 02:51:42 PM

Yep, the site has become too diversified and cumbersome for me. I look forward to GB trimming it back after the first of the year. I understand giving politics it's own forum to help keep the peace but several of the other non-gun forums such as Today's Important News, Off Topic Discussions, Humor and Strange or Unusual Experiences Outdoors could easily be lumped under the OPBS forum

YEP. POWDERMAN.

30-30man · « **Reply #23 on:** October 16, 2011, 03:57:44 PM »

I know I don't post as much as I use to. Some (not all) moderators have gone a little too far moving post or just locking them when they didn't agree with what was posted. There were post on the Marlin board about the Remington ownership. When the topic got going, and the discussion didn't go the way the mod wanted, it was locked. Then another post on the same topic appeared the next day right under the locked one and allowed to continue. It didn't make much sense to me. I'm glad it's not up to me, I think I'd make more of a mess out of it. Some posts should be left alone though.

Bugflipper · « **Reply #24 on:** October 16, 2011, 10:33:54 PM »

Agreed on to many forums. When I have a question to ask about something I'm usually uncertain on where to put it. I just try to figure the forum with the closest match. Honestly most things can go in 4 or 5 different forums. It used to be a lot simpler. Here lately I don't really go to many forums, I just click on the show unread posts link. That one and the show replies to your posts are a real time saver.