.308 bullets

[ipyrek]

I had a 7.62-39 and a 308, got rid of them and now have a 30-30 and have been reloading for the 30-30. I have 10 leftover 7.62 tracer bullets, could I pull these and reload them in 30-30? and pull the extra 40 308's for the 30-30, and what about reusing the powder after remeasuring, from the Winchester 308's ?

[necchi]

You can re-use the pulled bullets, 7.62-308-3030 all use the same size diameter bullet.
 
 Are you talking about powder from factory loaded winchester cartridge? If so I wouldn't try re-using the powder, I've pulled some Winchester Extreme and the powder inside was a blended powder some flake and some ball mixed.
 It's a prioritized powder and there's really no data available for what or how it reacts in anything but the factory ammo,, with that bullet,, in that amount,, in that case. And Winchester ain't gonna tell us, if they did everybody would just load there own.
 If it's from rounds that you have loaded then you know what the powder it is, where it came from and how much there is,, by all means go ahead and re-use your own powder.

[ipyrek]

Yes it is Win.Factory loaded, I'll probably just dump the powder, but what about the tracer bullets, I just don't know how they work ?

[tacklebury]

I've never shot real tracers from a standard steel barrel.  Most mil-spec barrels are chromed, so it probably laughs at the burning base of the bullet, but your std. steel barrel might not be so resistant.  Maybe some have tried and will chime in, but I'd probably avoid it in a regular firearm. 

[Graybeard]

I wouldn't try to reuse the tracer bullets and while I might just be overly cautious I'd not pull them either with a hammer type puller. If you have a collet puller fine but I'd bury them.

DO NOT reuse the powder. Use it as fertilizer for your lawn or garden.

[ipyrek]

Thanks for the info, I"d rather be safe then sorry.

[yooper77]

There is no interchangeability whatsoever and I don't recommend pulling the bullets for use in another cartridge and never reuse powder.
 
The 30-30 Winchester and 308 Winchester bullet's are (0.308") 308 thousands of an inch in diameter.
The 7.62x39 Russian bullet is (0.311') 311 thousands of an inch in diameter.
 
yooper77

[Lloyd Smale]

I wouldnt pull tracers. I wouldnt reuse powder unless i was absolutely sure what it was. the 311 bullets wouldnt give you any trouble as long as your not pushing the envelope in pressures but because there pointed bullets and espcially if there not soft nosed bullets id defineatly not load them in a lever gun unless your loading them one at a time. Saving money is great and im the first one to want to do that but its not worth getting hurt for a few rounds of ammo.

[Old Syko]

I've bought and shot a ton of "collet" pulled tracers.  Places like High Tech, Wideners, Pat's and other suppliers sell millions of them.  Modern tracers are quite safe to pull if done correctly and can be shot through a standard steel barrel.  Air friction is what lites the tracer.   Like anything else though, if you aren't sure what you're doing, leave it alone.

[ipyrek]

pulled a 308 and did some measuring, the 308's that I have wont work in a 30-30 case, especially in a lever gun even if fed single shot. too narrow where it needs to be crimped.
*middle pic is from the 308, measures .302 in the crimp area.*

[Larry Gibson]

If you feed it single shot you don't need to crimp it.
 
Larry Gibson

[Lloyd Smale]

Id have no qualms about pulling them with a collet puller. I was refering to a kenetic puller.

I've bought and shot a ton of "collet" pulled tracers.  Places like High Tech, Wideners, Pat's and other suppliers sell millions of them.  Modern tracers are quite safe to pull if done correctly and can be shot through a standard steel barrel.  Air friction is what lites the tracer.   Like anything else though, if you aren't sure what you're doing, leave it alone.

[Old Syko]

Id have no qualms about pulling them with a collet puller. I was refering to a kenetic puller.

I've bought and shot a ton of "collet" pulled tracers.  Places like High Tech, Wideners, Pat's and other suppliers sell millions of them.  Modern tracers are quite safe to pull if done correctly and can be shot through a standard steel barrel.  Air friction is what lites the tracer.   Like anything else though, if you aren't sure what you're doing, leave it alone.

That's why I expressed "collet" as I did.  Even then I don't think you could lite one in a plastic hammer either, but since I don't expect reusable bullets to be pulled that way I've never tried.  Just don't seem smart to me.