Bad Leupold or what?

[demented]

I seem to be having accuracy issues with nearly every rifle I own!  Savage Weather Warrior, .308 W.  Vari-X 2 3X9 Leupold.   First shot went three inches left.  Second shot dead center, two inches high.  Third shot also went three inches left, within 3/8" of touching shot number one.  Yep, you guessed, shot number four went center, two inches high, it nearly touching shot number two!   I've checked everything I know to check, sent the scope and the target to Leupold in hope that the scope is the problem.  If its not???  I'm lost!   This combination of rifle, scope and load did under an inch last year.
                       

               
               

[rickyp]

if you are having issues with almost every rifle you have it is most likely the shooter.  have some other people shoot the rifles and see if they are doing the same thing
 
next thing to check is the crown and mak sure there is no damage to it
 
after that check the barrel to see if  copper/lead build up has accrued then check the drought and see if it is eroded any

[demented]

   A shooter check IS a good idea.  I'm using a Led-sled but thats no guarantee I'm not doing something wrong.  Actually this is only the second rifle that's giving me headaches, the other a Weatherby Vanguard has been a problem since new.  My Browning Stainless Stalker seems to be shooting as usual, 1/2"-5/8" with Fed Premium Nosler Partitions.  I am sure glad, I'm about to run out of rifles to use next month for deer season.

[rickyp]

did you take the stocks off by chance to clean under it?
 that too can change the POI

[Val]

What load are you using? The rifle may not like the load.

[Catfish]

I doubt it`s the scope, but possible, I did buy 1 bad Leupold, but I`ve had over 40 of them. Some gun are very picky about the ammo they like, and if your not reloading you are at a big handy cap. My first center fire rifle was a 270 win. built on a Muser action that you could cover 5 shots with a nickel at 100 yrd. with 110 Sierra bullets, but would shot like a shotgun with any other bullets.

[demented]

 What I did since last year was change from a Vari-X-2 matte black with Burris bases, Leupold rings with front dovetail to a Silver Vari-X-2 with Talley silver mount that combines the rings and base in one piece.  The Talley's seem fine, the only other thing I knew to check was the scope.  I'm using the exact same load I used last year, CCI 200 primers, IMR 4064 powder. Black Hills match brass, powder and primers from the same lot I used last year. 

[gunnut69]

When a rifle creates 2 groups like this I always search for the high spot.. Perhaps the barrel warped a bit and the pressure is popping from side to side. A front action screw that is bottoming out can cause something like this at times. A torqued action from bedding failure can also. To check the latter remove the tension from the rear screw slowly while holding a finger on the joint betwrrn wood and metal at the rear receiver ring. Retighten and do the same test with the front screw.. Three screw actions can also act similar if the scenter screw is over tightened. When checking for movement if the rear tang moves as the rear screw is loosened the action may be bent or in torsion a bit and it shifts position left to right at the firing of each shot.. This is most often a bedding issue or a bottomed out action screw.

[jabey9210]

You might also check the tang to make sure it isn't touching the stock either I rebarreled one of my savages and with a 27" mcgowen varmint contour it was shooting almost 2" groups  at 100yrds and was bouncing back and forth just as you described I was less than happy.  The old 22" 30-06 barrel shot better than that then I read or was told by somebody to check the tang and sure enough once I cleaned that up and made sure nothing was touching it it immediately shot  1/2" groups at 100.