Anyone ever change your mind based on what you read here

[NWBear]

I am just curious (not accusatory) has anyone ever re-considered their position based on the discussions here or on another website like this?  It seems we all just repeat our own mantras but I don't see anyone saying "that is a compelling argument, I may need to reconsider my previous position".  I do see some thoughtful points brought up, but rarely anything but rebuttal from opposing views.
NWBear

[blind ear]

On several points at different times but not overall philosophy. ear

[BUGEYE]

NO

[BBF]

 
 
               No!

[subdjoe]

A few times.  Usually from someone pointing out an Unintended Consequence of something I suggested.

[powderman]

YES. I mistakenly used to think that all American citizens were Americans, now I know better. POWDERMAN. 

[XD40SC]

YES. I used to think that all American citizens were really Americans, now I know better. POWDERMAN. 

that bears repeating

[XD40SC]

Yes, I used to think an intelligent discussion could be had, but it seems the same few always seem to ruin it one way or another.

[BUGEYE]

Yes, I used to think an intelligent discussion could be had, but it seems the same few always seem to ruin it one way or another.

if someone goes to a mainly conservative site and says liberal things, they should not be surprised.

[XD40SC]

Yes, I used to think an intelligent discussion could be had, but it seems the same few always seem to ruin it one way or another.

if someone goes to a mainly conservative site and says liberal things, they should not be surprised.
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I don't mind the difference of opinions. In fact I welcome it. Those that only listen to one side become narrow minded. It's some of the other behaviors that ruin it. I was once discussing the positive effects of hunting on a PETA site. Since I had a difference of opinion, I was treated much like those here who don't agree with the " party line".

[hillbill]

i often research things on this site because i know a lot of like minded people hang here.smart people who can offer facts and figures and even opposeing points of view. if your so close minded that new information cant change your mind then your too dam dumb for me to deal with.and in answer to your question yes i have had my mind changed by good arguements from people with more information than i have.

[yellowtail3]

Yes, I used to think an intelligent discussion could be had, but it seems the same few always seem to ruin it one way or another.

if someone goes to a mainly conservative site and says liberal things, they should not be surprised.

Lemme fix that for ya, pardner:
"if someone goes to a mainly conservative site and says liberal things doesn't kowtow to the xenophobic, bigoted, set-in-stone ideological talking points of the echo chamber, they should not be surprised."

You're welcome.

[Casull]

That was useful.   

[yellowtail3]

right into the ten-ring

[billy_56081]

Nope! There is right and there is wrong, everything in between is just evil.

[OldSchoolRanger]

Yes, I used to think an intelligent discussion could be had, but it seems the same few always seem to ruin it one way or another.

if someone goes to a mainly conservative site and says liberal things, they should not be surprised.

Lemme fix that for ya, pardner:
"if someone goes to a mainly conservative site and says liberal things doesn't kowtow to the xenophobic, bigoted, set-in-stone ideological talking points of the echo chamber, they should not be surprised."

You're welcome.

YT - You should really hear (read) yourself talk. BTW, you missed the x-Ring.

[OldSchoolRanger]

I am always ready to read and consider real, legitimate, and logical rebuttals.  I however do not suffer fools easily.  Don't post junk from extremist sites, or sites "with a dog in the fight", and expect me to believe your point of view.  Like most posters here, I'm not the mental midget that you believe anyone who does not agree with your points of views to be.

My point of view can be changed, but I only have one mind, and you can't have it.

[Casull]

YT - You should really hear (read) yourself talk. BTW, you missed the x-Ring.

        No, he didn't miss the x-ring, he missed the whole backer board.

[Casull]

Lemme fix that for ya, pardner:
"if someone goes to a mainly conservative site and says liberal things doesn't kowtow to the xenophobic, bigoted, set-in-stone ideological talking points of the echo chamber, they should not be surprised."

You're welcome.

 
BTW, looks like you fall into the "No" category. 

[OldSchoolRanger]

Lemme fix that for ya, pardner:
"if someone goes to a mainly conservative site and says liberal things doesn't kowtow to the xenophobic, bigoted, set-in-stone ideological talking points of the echo chamber, they should not be surprised."

You're welcome.

 
BTW, looks like you fall into the "No" category. 

I would have to agree with that.  Looks like you just changed my point of view. See it happens.

[yellowtail3]

YT - You should really hear (read) yourself talk. BTW, you missed the x-Ring.

I've made no claims to perfection.

You guys go ahead and post away about how bad Obama is, Godless Ones, immigrants you'd like to kill, the usual... I'm off to kill something this morning.

[briarpatch]

YT3, Hope you were successful on your hunt.
A question? If I were to go to a liberal site and intercede with conservative values, should I be surprised if acceptance was not forthcoming?
If I know conserv/lib to be right why would I want the other to creep in?
In politics and religion there is no such thing as middle ground. You either compromise your moral values or help destroy your country.
I like the idea of love all mankind but don't let them take your sympathy for weakness. That forces you to put your foot on their neck...... Unless you want to live under their rules.

[tobster]

I am just curious (not accusatory) has anyone ever re-considered their position based on the discussions here or on another website like this?  It seems we all just repeat our own mantras but I don't see anyone saying "that is a compelling argument, I may need to reconsider my previous position".  I do see some thoughtful points brought up, but rarely anything but rebuttal from opposing views.
NWBear

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"Yes. I use to be a self-styled conservative steeped in cognitive dissonance, believed the mass media and telaversion and a victim of Coercive Persuasion...The conditions necessary for a Coercive Persuasion programme to succeed is the widespread dissemination into a society of ‘immorality,’ ‘fear’ and ‘control', 'group think', etc. The spreading of a Coercive Persuasion programme throughout a group is based on utilizing the public education system, government officials and ‘mainstream’ media in an effort to sow constant confusion, conflict, and deception over as many issues and/or subjects as possible and supplant ultimately with the ideas of the STATE whoever its rulers may be.
The purpose of a Coercive Persuasion programme is to control a society by making homogenously belief in the needs of the state and lies, or a society at large as defined by a core group of idealoques.
 
Then when I came here to the echo chamber....I saw this was obiviously all BS and conflabulated contorted deceit to support primarily perpetual war.  I decided to change and become a conservative and Truth looker and practice reason and Critical Thinking....  Also, to escape the world's newest religion's false idealogy. Its been alot of fun..     "Put the sunglasses on...""
 
.TM7

  Is it just me or do other's have trouble understanding the above posting?

[BUGEYE]

tobster said,
  Is it just me or do other's have trouble understanding the above posting?

  most of those posts are contradictory.

XD40,  I listen to both sides, but the other side is nonsense.

[OldSchoolRanger]

YT - You should really hear (read) yourself talk. BTW, you missed the x-Ring.

I've made no claims to perfection.

You guys go ahead and post away about how bad Obama is, Godless Ones, immigrants you'd like to kill, the usual... I'm off to kill something this morning.

Good luck on your hunting foray.

[billy_56081]

Being the other side is wrong, what is the use in listening to the lies they spew? Liars who are promoting an agenda to steal my rights, freedoms and property are nothing that I want to compromise with.

[yellowtail3]

I've made no claims to perfection.

You guys go ahead and post away about how bad Obama is, Godless Ones, immigrants you'd like to kill, the usual... I'm off to kill something this morning.

Removed by Mod.

I'm thinking you probably don't know what a shill is - but go ahead and tell how you came to your conclusion. BTW - one doe in the freezer. Well, not the freezer yet... but the meat's off, and as soon as I've finished lunch I'll lay it out in the cooler, and wrap up the 10pt that has been in there last four days. PETA? I'm having venison & rice for lunch..

Good luck on your hunting foray.

Thanks, OldSchool; see above. I'm feeling a little guilty. She was bigger when I shot her, than when I got there... ground shrinkage. We study that at our PETA meetings...
 

[XD40SC]

Yes, I used to think an intelligent discussion could be had, but it seems the same few always seem to ruin it one way or another.

OMG, here we go again!!The posts above prove my point. I'm sure this ,like others, will soon be locked because some don't have the maturity, ability , or respect to refrain from their usual remarks.

[NWBear]

Thanks for the intersting comments.  I have an insane curiosity about many things and like to test my assumptions from time to time.
 
Seriously (not sarcastically)  THANKS
 
NWB

[BUGEYE]

Yes, I used to think an intelligent discussion could be had, but it seems the same few always seem to ruin it one way or another.

OMG, here we go again!!The posts above prove my point. I'm sure this ,like others, will soon be locked because some don't have the maturity, ability , or respect to refrain from their usual remarks.

no big deal, it's kinda like when you tried to convince everyone that grandpa was a monkey.
some disagreed and the arguments began.