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Correct Full Disassembly Reference?
« on: October 22, 2011, 09:58:07 PM »
Hi All,
   Sorry to be hitting the board so hard, new toy and all.

Anyone know the location of a good procedure or even a youtube on tearing down a Pardner break open to every piece?

Would like to know how it's done and eventually do the full inspection on mine.

Anyone know the rule for pushing pins out? I thought there was a general rule like "always from left to right" or similar?

Would hate to inadvertently pound the heck out of her for no reason.

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Re: Correct Full Disassembly Reference?
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2011, 01:26:43 AM »
Hi All,
   Sorry to be hitting the board so hard, new toy and all.

Anyone know the location of a good procedure or even a youtube on tearing down a Pardner break open to every piece?

Would like to know how it's done and eventually do the full inspection on mine.

Anyone know the rule for pushing pins out? I thought there was a general rule like "always from left to right" or similar?

Would hate to inadvertently pound the heck out of her for no reason.

Good morning,
 YES what you need is to look in the FAQ's.
 
Tim has done a bang up job moving and linking threads in one place to easily search the common issues such as yours.
 
Grab a cup of coffee and sit for a spell you will find it a MUCH more!!
 
Good luck,
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Re: Correct Full Disassembly Reference?
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2011, 09:55:51 AM »
BIG NOTE: The pins are splined one one side. YOU look at it close SO you see it and know.
I know a guy that just pounded splined pins all the way thru an action......BAD FORM
He laughed about it, but I wouldnt want to have been the guy buying that one off a gun show table.
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Re: Correct Full Disassembly Reference?
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2011, 11:11:23 AM »
Download Perklo's trigger job instructions(link in the FAQs trigger hone section), it has very detailed instructions on what to do and how to do it right.

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Re: Correct Full Disassembly Reference?
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2011, 01:36:00 PM »
Download Perklo's trigger job instructions(link in the FAQs trigger hone section), it has very detailed instructions on what to do and how to do it right.

Tim

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Re: Correct Full Disassembly Reference?
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2011, 06:43:54 PM »
Hi All,
   Sorry to be hitting the board so hard, new toy and all.

Anyone know the location of a good procedure or even a youtube on tearing down a Pardner break open to every piece?

Would like to know how it's done and eventually do the full inspection on mine.

Anyone know the rule for pushing pins out? I thought there was a general rule like "always from left to right" or similar?

Would hate to inadvertently pound the heck out of her for no reason.

Good morning,
 YES what you need is to look in the FAQ's.
 
Tim has done a bang up job moving and linking threads in one place to easily search the common issues such as yours.
 
Grab a cup of coffee and sit for a spell you will find it a MUCH more!!
 
Good luck,
 CW

Thanks much. Good to know it's really there. I leafed through the FAQs visually and guess I missed it.

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Re: Correct Full Disassembly Reference?
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2011, 06:47:23 PM »
Download Perklo's trigger job instructions(link in the FAQs trigger hone section), it has very detailed instructions on what to do and how to do it right.

Tim

Step by step how to that WORKS! Print it out, and after 4 or 5 times donate it, as you will have it memorized.....
 
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Thanks much. Thanks all for the tips about the splined pins. Inexpensive as these guns are, I don't see any point in busting them up. Kind of actually have an affection for thier simplicity. Would've preferred that they had screws, rather than pins, like in some of the other, older break actions I've had a chance to use over the years. :)

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Re: Correct Full Disassembly Reference?
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2011, 08:03:09 PM »
Wow, was that a surprise. For such an apparently simple design on the surface... that's the messiest disassembly/reassembly I have ever seen. No militlary type gun I've ever owned, including antiquish single action revolvers seems as finicky, LOL!

I was expecting something along the lines of a Navy Colt but with wire springs. But geez, that intergrated trigger guard etc. I'm thinking some of the older designs might actually be better from the "tear 'em downd and fully clean them every time out" perspective. Which has always been my personal procedure.

Maybe I'm going to have to make an exception, LOL! That pump action Pardner is lookin' better all the time. :)

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Re: Correct Full Disassembly Reference?
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2011, 04:53:09 AM »
Due to the design these dont get blowback residue, etc. into the action, and unless you are in a disty/dirty/muddy environment there isnt much sense in pulling them down often (a spout spray cleaner is your friend, and even that infrequently).
Set yourself free..........dont worry about it!
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Re: Correct Full Disassembly Reference?
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2011, 10:42:58 AM »
Due to the design these dont get blowback residue, etc. into the action, and unless you are in a disty/dirty/muddy environment there isnt much sense in pulling them down often (a spout spray cleaner is your friend, and even that infrequently).
Set yourself free..........dont worry about it!

Just curious, does that plastic trigger guard ever have any issues with cleaners? Was surprised to find out it was more than just a trigger guard, that it's somewhat an intergrated housing. I realize they make a metal one, but depending on how complex the inside looks when I take it out. Looks like an interesting thing to try to fabricate in something more durable.

I've had trouble with some of the older designs. Particularly the foreign made Colt repros. Spring breakage mostly, so I guess I tend to want to keep the inards spotless and know the condition of the parts.

Have to say, I was suprised to see how little metal is on the one side of the sear on the hammer in Perklo's photos.


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Re: Correct Full Disassembly Reference?
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2011, 12:18:17 PM »
Be careful with the spray cleaners...some will dissolve plastic.  I've used the Remington label successfully....and I've tried brake cleaner...that is a no no! :o
 
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Re: Correct Full Disassembly Reference?
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2011, 12:49:13 PM »
In my years as mechanic, and my hobby in gunsmithing, I have discovered that one is best served by starting by reading labels. After that, I like to use as 'soft' a cleaner as is needed for the job, escalating the harshness as needed, and being conscious of the materials Im working on, as well as myself. Even something as humble as WD-40 is a decent flush for most things like this.
Anything that says it may harm stock finishes I usually stay away from.
FWIW, the Vietnam War era milsurp bug dope will ruin some plastics, stock finishes and maybe your polycarbonate glasses lenses.
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