The above quote is pretty much verbatim from Tarpley.net...Webster's bio. If the FBI or any of the alphabets wanted to shut down Tarpley's dissemination outfit..they would have yesterday..easily done by pressuring the Tarpley women in some shketcy DoD/foreign business, or any other means.
Exactly the point..this is more evidence that he is NOT an agent or an employee of the federal govt. If he were, he would have been shut down (and jailed) a long time ago. The FBI does not operate under the same set of rules as the inteligence community, and in many ways is charged with keeping them in check (its against the law for them to operate inside the US, spy against US citizens, etc..) The known budget for intell in the USA is 60-90 billion dollars/yr..some sources say double that if all 'black sources' are accounted for..drugs, guns, contracts, various business stuff, etc., etc. Most Americans think that all the approx. 14 intell agencies are information gathering and analysis....which in my opinion is far from the case...Most of their activity is information disemination , or should I say disinfo disemination, too.... ...Conditioning the playing field so to speak. In fact, I've read 80% of intell budgets is spent on info-disinfo disemination and mind and control paradigms...such as entering websites and chat rooms to steer the discussion, or mass media projection. No...I am not about to document this..it is available for those who want to look and see.
unlike others, I have been trying very hard not to throw the tin-foil hat on you and actually have a reasonable/rational dissertation on the subject (which has gotten way off the original topic). This is more spouting of "facts" that cant be substantiated. There are 16 agencies within the federal government (this is an exact number, not an "approximate" 14) dedicated to the gathering of inteligence. Their combined budgets (this is published by the federal government.. nothing to estimate here) have exceeded $80M in both 2010 and 2011.
CREDIBLE sources will openly admit that there is additional money that is floated into the intel community from other pots ("black" or otherwise...).. this is common practice among ALL federal agencies due to mission overlap, the "whole of government" concept that has been getting pushed for several years now, and a number of other factors.. for example.. Plan Merida (a $400M+ State Department program that targets drug related issues in Mexico and other latin american countries) "gave" a good chunk of money to the Defense Department a few years back in order to purchase UH60 Helicopters to support their program. This money wasnt budgeted by DOD.. it wasnt theirs.. it ended up in their coffers however (and promptly got spent to transfer the helos). It was budgeted by DOS though and shows up clearly on their books. Is some of the money that goes into our intelligence agencies classified? Of course. By design it has to be. These "black" budgets do however have congressional oversight, and if/when a procurement comes to light where congress wasnt fully aware, heads roll (anyone remember Iran-Contra?)... No one credible however states (again, if you think otherwise.. bring the evidence..) that the intel "black" budget is even close to equivalent of the public budget (in fact, that is almost a business impossibility, and completely ridiculous to even assume), or that it is funded by drugs, guns, and/or other nefarious means.. does that mean there havent been some unscrupulous people that have worked in the intelligence community that havent broken the rules, havent lied, or havent done things they shouldnt have.. absolutely not.. there certainly are bad people working within the agencies..
that said, there are also bad people working at K-mart that break rules, lie, and do things they shouldnt have.. sadly, it is the nature of people..
for you to assume that the intel community is any worse than any one else (federal government or private sector..) without proving anything other than an opinion (not based on fact), reeks of reynolds wrap..
Post is from Trarpley.net as I said...When it comes to 'market' info-disinfo we have two genral areas...For example, we have the FOXy News market often relied on forum members here...that info dissemination market relys on eye candy and reports from real ex.. ex-CIA agents..that market buys into that hype....when it comes to command and control of the alter info desimination,,that market can't rely on eye candy as much and not one establishment type voices who would be scoffed....they need Tarpley type guys to work this market. Leaks are the name of the game. Remember, The Real War is for Control for Your Mind; that and to keep you away from things that really should matter to you as an American Citizen...
again, opinions that you present as fact (without substantiating them). you presume one of the prime objectives of the government is to keep you away from things that should matter to american citizens.. but offer no proof of that.. you also presume that what is important to you as an american citizen is the same thing that is important to others..
personally I think most americans are perfectly happy being sheep.. there is no reason to try to control their mind or lure them away from whats important.. they go willingly.. so why dedicate billions of dollars in resources, and develop elaborate schemes that would require the involvement of tens of thousands of people (who all dedicate their lives to making sure YOU dont know the truth..) when the truth is most people dont require that type of activity to be influenced, and YOU individually arent really important enough as an indivdual to matter?
as for market disinformation being limited to two primary areas.. again.. thats an individuals opinion, not substantiated by fact..
Given Tarpley's presence, whereforall, treasure trove of info-disinfo, his women's 'jobs'.. ...likely more than just an asse...a player more likely.
ok.. so we are back at Tarpley really is a CIA agent again? lets go back to the original argument then.. show one reasonable piece of evidence that would substantiate that other than your opinion, which so far has not been even able to be presented as logical, much less factual..
911 Truthers do not have dependents or spouses working in sensitve DoD interanational weapons business..that's my assumption...re-read Bollyn.
pretty big assumption.. and a wrong one..
I know plenty of people working on sensitive (often highly classified) projects who have family members that are felons, family members that are residents of mental hospitals, etc..
when you get a clearance, YOU are the person being investigated.. not your father or your son.. who and what they are is of no relevance or consequence..
how you manage your relationship with people (family, friends, business associates, etc..) is relevant..
but you are not held accountable just because you fathered a turd, or were fathered by one..
You seem to know alot about this process..perhaps you can research Tarpley. For rank and file technicians and clerks, janitors, etc..this might work. but I consider it a false trail...depending who we are talking about there's no tracks from a horse of different color...Bollyn researched Tarpley and came to his conclusions based on other evidence. Perhaps I could call Scooter Libby to find out if Tarpley is intell or not...
you consider it a false trail based on what personal experience or presented evidence? more hypothesis based on a guess as opposed to facts. yes.. I know quite a bit about the process.. PERSONAL EXPERIENCE as someone that currently holds a security clearance, and PERSONAL EXPERIENCE as someone who used to manage clearances for a company that provides services to the government tells me that you are wrong. Again, you can back up (or attempt to) your stated "facts" (which are opinions, and not in reality facts at all) by submitting a FOIA. You made the statement. You do the work. Prove your point. Show us that you are right. Dont spout off nonsense then claim it is someone elses responsibility to prove you wrong.. I go back to my original statement.. if that is your standard.. then I say the moon is made of Cheese (probably havarti..).. now its YOUR responsibility to prove otherwise.. [/color]
Different market in the scheme of things..Tarpley fills a very important niche...perhaps keep the heat off the real perps and maintain cover..
important is a relative term.. he fills an important niche to you.. but the majority of people would say he is relatively unimportant in the grand scheme of things.. he doesnt have the audience of other journalists that have similar credentials and experience.. I'd even go so far as to guess that you and I are probably the only two people reading this thread that really know much about him at all.. Glenn Beck is every bit as controversial as Tarpley (and every bit as much a CIA employee (not one)).. he is name and face recognizable to the vast majority of americans.. whether you agree with him or not.. HE is actually important (his voice reaches lots of people, and large groups of people respond to his reports).. Tarpleys audience is very limited by comparrison.. (this is only one example.. there are obviously a WHOLE LOT of other journalists that have substantially more power, influence, etc..).. youre also back to making assumptions without substantiating by fact "perhaps keep the heat off..." just brings back the reynolds wrap feeling.. if you actually want anyone to read anything you post more than once, you would be better served providing personal experience and/or evidence when you make claims.. Yes, that is agreed..he's in the system...but how deep? we will just have to wait and see....perhaps someday all things will be brought into the Light.
not quite tracking you here.. I agree that as a journalist, he has made connections within the US government and in private enterprise gives him the ability to obtain information that the common man typically can not. I do not agree however that he is "in" the government system at all (other than by the same means that all other journalists are).
So they're suspicous...so what? That's a good thing...you going to leak or give info-disinfo to somebody not suspicious..?
keep things in context. you are claiming he is an asset/agent (depending on which post we are talking about). if this were the case, he would be completely ineffective living a life long cover as a very public journalist.
if he is nothing more than a member of the media that the US government knows they can feed information to (what I have asserted all along) then you are right... "so what" is the correct response..
Well know fact....perhaps I can find and old post in the TLC forum describing this lockdown on real journalism
it is a well known fact that most of the major newspapers and television news programs are owned by a small number of corporations and conglomerates.. it is however NOT a well known fact that things are now "worse, not better" regarding the media and how people obtain information.. that is an OPINION.. and something you have been guilty of numerous times in this debate (constantly presenting your opinion on things with no substantiating facts or evidence). I would say (and this is my opinion) that most people think the internet and international television (access to BBC, SkyNews, Al Jezera, and anything else you want) is/was a game changer and now they have acess to alternative information sources, that the days of having 3 choices (ABC, CBS, and NBA) for an evening news program and a single local newpaper are long gone.. and that things are substantially better..
New Covenant canceled all this deception--made war extinct---now back and same perps...The Ages are changing again...perps are being outed. Danger is on their way out of the village they burn the whole place down...
I have no idea what your point is other than to rant..
[quote}Wel yeah Ok...but Truth is Truth...indivisible...and is the only way to honr God...evrything else is vanity/narcisstism/psychopathetic....TM7 youre right.. truth is truth..
I do think however if you are going to go on and say truth is the only way to honor God.. that perhaps you should make sure you have facts and evidence to support your "truth" before you spout it.. otherwise it is nothing more than the vane/narcissistic/psychopathetic musings of yet another person that wants to scream, shout, and obtain attention.. but can not offer to anyone that "truth" is actually being relayed.
I rely on faith in my relationship with God..
my relationships with man require that he substantiates his claims of "truth" (you dont get the same consideration that God gets)..