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somebody this stupid should get plenty of jail time
« on: October 23, 2011, 05:41:20 PM »
  I never could figure such a stupid excuse as " I thought that man was a bear...or a deer...or a turkey".
      http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Hunter-Kills-Marine-Mistook-Him-for-a-Bear-132401228.html
  Any game animal clearly has to be identified with such criteria as age, sex, size, number of points etc.  NO EXCUSES !
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Re: somebody this stupid should get plenty of jail time
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2011, 02:44:12 AM »
There is no excuse.  I guess some people don't think clearly and it gets other people killed.
he should be prosecuted.
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Re: somebody this stupid should get plenty of jail time
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2011, 10:40:32 AM »
For once I agree with both of you! I better go to the doctor and see if I am ill or something. ;D
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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2011, 12:31:03 PM »
my in-laws had a country store some time back.  during deer and Turkey season it was a check station. now ill tell you what just set and hear  some people telling about the sound shot they took. that scare stuff. i have ask several of them what a sound shot is and most just look at you all crazy like are you dumb.

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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2011, 12:33:16 PM »
For once I agree with both of you! I better go to the doctor and see if I am ill or something. ;D
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you're not ill. you just had a rare attack of common sense. ;D
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Re: somebody this stupid should get plenty of jail time
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2011, 01:26:36 PM »
I'm thinking that gramps is covering for his grandson. 
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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2011, 01:40:18 PM »
I'm thinking that gramps is covering for his grandson.
hmmm.  never thought of that.
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Re: somebody this stupid should get plenty of jail time
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2011, 03:39:52 PM »
I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often. When I was working sptng goods at WM I was surprised at the # of times I heard hunters?? talking about SOUND SHOTS. One guy said he ran out of 270s shooting at deer but most were sound shots. Morons.  :o :o
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« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2011, 04:48:25 AM »
I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often. When I was working sptng goods at WM I was surprised at the # of times I heard hunters?? talking about SOUND SHOTS. One guy said he ran out of 270s shooting at deer but most were sound shots. Morons.  :o :o

Sound shot????

Never heard of that before.  Anyone who admits to doing that should have his hunting license revoked for life.  I wouldn't sell anything gun related to someone I heard talking about taking "sound shots."
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Re: somebody this stupid should get plenty of jail time
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2011, 08:51:25 AM »
Sound shots!? :o !  Maybe that's what I experienced several years ago. After returning fire I never heard that "sound" again. >:( >:( >:( >:(

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« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2011, 08:56:32 AM »
I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often. When I was working sptng goods at WM I was surprised at the # of times I heard hunters?? talking about SOUND SHOTS. One guy said he ran out of 270s shooting at deer but most were sound shots. Morons.  :o :o

Sound shot? ???

Never heard of that before.  Anyone who admits to doing that should have his hunting license revoked for life.  I wouldn't sell anything gun related to someone I heard talking about taking "sound shots."
get around a place like were i live and you ll hear it. i live in southern Indiana and the first weekend of deer season it is dangerous to be out walking in the woods. we had a guy buy 8  box's of slugs in one day that's 40 rounds. that's why i stay on my own little piece of the world till muzzle loading season then i venture out. not to many years back a guy heard what he thought was a turkey . and shot through some bushes  a shot a guy using a turkey call didn't see anything just heard it


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Re: somebody this stupid should get plenty of jail time
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2011, 08:57:30 AM »
Receiving friendly fire, returning same.
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« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2011, 10:34:38 AM »
SRUSSELL. The Corydon store is where I used to work. I was completely shocked at the gullibility, even stupidity of some of those wannabe hunters. Shucks, I even learned that a 3030 won't kill a deer, shot it 6 times and it got away. HEH, you'd be amazed at some of these big time hunters. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2011, 11:03:03 AM »
SRUSSELL. The Corydon store is where I used to work. I was completely shocked at the gullibility, even stupidity of some of those wannabe hunters. Shucks, I even learned that a 3030 won't kill a deer, shot it 6 times and it got away. HEH, you'd be amazed at some of these big time hunters. POWDERMAN.  :o :o

Well, according to the gun rags, even the 30-06 isn't good enough for deer anymore.  Gotta have the latest 300 LoudenMagnum.  And only take shots over 400 yards.

But, yeah, the 3030 is a mousephart, not good for anything.  Heck, you're lucky if it can make it out the barrel and punch paper at anything over 10 yards.
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« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2011, 12:07:25 PM »
SRUSSELL. The Corydon store is where I used to work. I was completely shocked at the gullibility, even stupidity of some of those wannabe hunters. Shucks, I even learned that a 3030 won't kill a deer, shot it 6 times and it got away. HEH, you'd be amazed at some of these big time hunters. POWDERMAN.  :o :o

Well, according to the gun rags, even the 30-06 isn't good enough for deer anymore.  Gotta have the latest 300 LoudenMagnum.  And only take shots over 400 yards.

But, yeah, the 3030 is a mousephart, not good for anything.  Heck, you're lucky if it can make it out the barrel and punch paper at anything over 10 yards.
  kinda like the guy that said he needed his .357 with him deer hunting didnt feel safe from coyotes and he was carrying a 12gauge shotgun with slugs. go figure

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« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2011, 12:17:14 PM »
SRUSSELL. The Corydon store is where I used to work. I was completely shocked at the gullibility, even stupidity of some of those wannabe hunters. Shucks, I even learned that a 3030 won't kill a deer, shot it 6 times and it got away. HEH, you'd be amazed at some of these big time hunters. POWDERMAN.  :o :o

Well, according to the gun rags, even the 30-06 isn't good enough for deer anymore.  Gotta have the latest 300 LoudenMagnum.  And only take shots over 400 yards.

But, yeah, the 3030 is a mousephart, not good for anything.  Heck, you're lucky if it can make it out the barrel and punch paper at anything over 10 yards.
  kinda like the guy that said he needed his .357 with him deer hunting didnt feel safe from coyotes and he was carrying a 12gauge shotgun with slugs. go figure

Why, heck, I bet he can shoot the left gnut off a gnat at 100 yards with that .357! 
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Re: somebody this stupid should get plenty of jail time
« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2011, 12:23:47 PM »
SUBJOE. I bet ya didn't know that you hafta have HIBRASS 12 ga shells to kill hoosier squirrels either. HEH. You really should hang around sptg goods and listen in. I also learned that you need a magnum BP rifle to kill a deer, capable of at least 120 gr of pwdr. There are novices everywhere. One day I showed a guy some oil lamps w the swinging handle in sptg goods. Next time I saw him he was heading towards checkout with a lantern and a gal of CAMP FUEL. They both said ozark trail on them. I explained why that was not a good idea and took him to where the lamp oil was, then explained how to fill and adj the flame. The wick was turned up a couple of inches. I can only imagine the explosion that would  have caused, first time camper. POWDERMAN.  ::) ::)
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« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2011, 01:07:33 PM »
well i don't have any bullet proof deer on my place. so ill just go ahead and use my old 54 flint lock and hope he gets close.  ;D

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« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2011, 01:11:56 PM »
buy the way powderman. maybe you remember when the guy was shot here in Indiana with a bow wile turkey hunting bee 3 maybe 4 years. now that takes top  spot

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« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2011, 04:56:00 PM »
buy the way powderman. maybe you remember when the guy was shot here in Indiana with a bow wile turkey hunting bee 3 maybe 4 years. now that takes top  spot

 
YEP. Some folks are real observant hunters. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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Re: somebody this stupid should get plenty of jail time
« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2011, 05:58:59 PM »
I agree! No excuses!
The guy was using a .270, so I have to assume it was scoped. How does one look through a scope and place the crosshairs on an object, (finding the vitals), and not be able to tell the difference between a bear and a man? Was the marine wearing a shaggy fur coat?! Was he on all fours?
This negligence in and of itself consitutes the crime of manslaughter in my opinion.
 
On another forum disscussion about this, someone tried to blame the marine for not wearing hunter orange during hunting season. I ain't buyin any of that hay. There is no excuse for not following the first rule of hunting. Know for sure what you are shooting at and whats behind it!!
But because of guys like this, we do have to wear orange. And even that is not too comforting these days!
 
As far as covering for the kid, if he did it, I don't see the sense in that either. If that is the case, the kid lives with not only the guilt of killing someone accidentally, but also the guilt of his grandpa suffering the consequences for it, and possibly, going to jail. If that is the case and the kid shot the marine, he would be better off fessing up to it. I doubt the courts would send him to jail. Grandpa is another story!
 
Years ago, in Colorado, I heard of a kid that got shot by a "hunter" while riding his mini-bike right outside of town. The "hunter" said he thought the kid was a deer. Don't remember how that turned out. Still blows my mind though!
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« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2011, 05:43:38 AM »
How do people explain shooting a 1,000Lb+ black and white Holstein cow saying they thought it was a deer? Guess they thought they had a Boone & Crocket record or something.
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