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Offline gramps1

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.223 stuck in chamber
« on: October 23, 2011, 07:29:08 PM »
OK, i used a previously fired(in an AR) shell as a snap cap to get used to the action and trigger, and it is stuck in the chamber.  I have opened and closed the action multiple times without the ejector/extractor budging it.  I have put a cleaning rod down the bore and pounded with absolutely nothing happening.  Without going to a gunsmith what else can be done?  Yes, I have looked through FAQ's and done searches(I am tired of reading about soft shell crabs!).  Thanks in advance.
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Re: .223 stuck in chamber
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2011, 08:27:56 PM »
Get a brass rod that fits down the bore or a cleaning rod that has no brush or jag on it.  Whack it with a hammer and out it will come.  hitting the plastic end of the rod probably won't get it done, you need to hit metal on metal I would say.  Larry
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Re: .223 stuck in chamber
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2011, 08:39:46 PM »
I have a long brass rod that just fits down the barrel of a .22, brass won't hurt the rifling.  I use a brass hammer and out they come.  I also have them in .30 cal, .45 cal, and .50 cal.  I hate going to a gunsmith.  While working up subsonic loads I sometimes went too light, and needed to use those rods.

While I don't recommend it, have seen armorers use a polished steel rod on M-16s to remove hard stuck cases with no damage. 
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Re: .223 stuck in chamber
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2011, 05:48:38 AM »
You can use a steel rod, just wrap some tape at about 4-6" intervals as a buffer to the rifling. The best length is only a few inches longer than the barrel. If you are afraid of missing the rod with the hammer drill a rod dia. hole thru a piece of wood, about 4" long to slip over and down to the muzzle. Place the breech end on a 2x4 block with a cartridge head size hole in it on the shop floor.
A couple of sharp raps with a mid-sized hammer should free it. With a set up like this I can sit on my stool holding the barrel straight and square with the base block and hold it with my knees while I hold at the muzzle with my off hand (I tend to use my hand around things as the buffer, thus an incentive not to miss). Its a good idea to keep some grasp around the rod as it might want to 'jump' a bit.
Most cleaning rods are too flexy to really impart the blow to the stuck case well. The other problem is that if you dont have a brass (usually) 8x32 screw in the end you will permanently mess up the threads for the jags!!!; and if you hit the handle with a hammer you are likely to bust it.
You can get a length of rod at your local metal supply dealer or machineshop, or there are some racks at the home centers now with metal lengths.
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Re: .223 stuck in chamber
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2011, 06:47:42 AM »
I've not tried this and don't even know if it would work, but since brass contracts more than steel, you might try sticking the barrel in the freezer for a hour or so and then try knocking the case out. 

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Re: .223 stuck in chamber
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2011, 07:03:03 AM »
Or:
Drill the primer/case out
Tap to 1/4 x 20
Set a socket down that the casehead can slide up into
Using a washer an 1/4 x 20 bolt, screw it in; it will pull the case out
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Re: .223 stuck in chamber
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2011, 07:52:12 AM »
The local hardware store only had steel rods.  I got a 3/16, which is .187 they said.  two sharp raps with the hammer and voila it was free.  I looked everywhere(ACE, NAPA, AND O'REILIY'S) for some FLITZ to polish the chamber, but came up empty handed.  No one had heard of it.  So where to obtain?  So far ya'll are spot on.  THANKS!!!
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Re: .223 stuck in chamber
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2011, 08:14:30 AM »
I've used wooden dowel rods that fit loose down the bore cut off about two inches longer than the barrel and using a plastic mallet whack away.
 
I've done this a couple times to dislodge bullets not casing but what the heck it worked and I didn't have to worry about messing up the rifling.
 
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Re: .223 stuck in chamber
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2011, 10:12:48 AM »
I've found sometimes I had to forcefully open the rifle up to get the extractor to force the case out of the chamber. Basically the action was only opening as far as until the ejector would normally be actuated, and I realized I just needed more force to go the rest of the way.

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Re: .223 stuck in chamber
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2011, 11:20:22 AM »
The local hardware store only had steel rods.  I got a 3/16, which is .187 they said.  two sharp raps with the hammer and voila it was free.  I looked everywhere(ACE, NAPA, AND O'REILIY'S) for some FLITZ to polish the chamber, but came up empty handed.  No one had heard of it.  So where to obtain?  So far ya'll are spot on.  THANKS!!!
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You might check Ace Hardware if you have one around. Pretty sure that is where I got mine at.
 
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Re: .223 stuck in chamber
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2011, 12:12:42 PM »
Now that the case is out, you should have no further problems.  Some AR types leave a case with a slight almost unnoticiable bulge around the base.  That is probably what caused the problem.  Especially if it was a military loading.  Take it out and shoot it, that's the best thing to do.
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Re: .223 stuck in chamber
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2011, 02:51:07 PM »
I shot it twelve times.  8 PMC fmj and 55 grs, and 4 Remington 50 gr jhp.  Started at 25 yds and backed up to 40 yards.  All on an 8x11 target.  No more FTE.  I see by the serial number that it was made in 2007.  .  So it has an extractor instead of the ejector.  It hasn't been used/shot much, and I plan on changing that.  I will need to full length size the AR casings, when I reload them.  The gun has a Bull Barrel.  Loud report with very little kick.  It sports a 2.5 to 10 power scope.  No name on it.  On the left hand side opposite the adjuster is the picture of a ground squirrel/hog.  Does anyone know who makes this?  The gunstock appears to be a nice grade of Walnut with a deep rich color.  All in all I am glad I bought it.
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