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Offline upstech76

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45/70 Question
« on: October 24, 2011, 03:49:04 AM »
Does anyone reload the "short" LE Hornady brass with non-hornady bullets?  I have some once fired LE Hornady brass and would like to load up some 300 gr Sierra bullets but wasn't sure how the shorter brass would affect accuracy.  This would strictly be shot in a handi rifle.

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Re: 45/70 Question
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2011, 04:51:17 AM »
It can be done.  It's not unlike shooting .38 Specials in a .357.  Crimping can be an issue unless you use the new Hornaday dies or shorten your existing seater/crimping die.
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Re: 45/70 Question
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2011, 05:24:19 AM »
It shouldn't affect accuracy and you don't need to crimp anyway.

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Re: 45/70 Question
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2011, 05:35:03 AM »
With some powders a crimp is needed to get good accuracy.  I roll crimp everything.
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Re: 45/70 Question
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2011, 01:17:11 PM »
+1 on crimp here.  I have loaded Hornady brass once...  Wasn't very happy with the results and as Swampy said, crimp dies don't work and sizing die doesn't get down all the way.  8(
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Re: 45/70 Question
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2011, 10:38:38 PM »
 I have the same rifle as you and loaded the shorter LE brass. To do it you'll need either the Hornady seat die, or you can modify the dies you have. I use RCBS dies that belong to a friend so I couldn't modify them. Instead I purchased a lee factory crimp die and shortened by .100" or so.  I'm not real convinced the crimp is exacty right though, I'll have to load some standard length rounds to be sure.
 Anyway, you can certainly load the LE brass, but it's a little bit more of a hassle the standard length, unless you have one of the new Hornady dies. Bear in mind though, with the shorter brass you have less case volume and if you're using full power loads you may have an over pressure situation. I shoot Trapdoor loads in mine so it isn't an issue for me.
 As far as accuracy goes I haven't noticed anything, but I tend to shoot everything off-hand at ranges of no more than 50 yards so I may not notice. All of my hunting is done in thick woods where a 20 yard shot is the norm, so I really have no need to develop a MOA round.  Your needs may be different so I really can't coment too much on that.
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Re: 45/70 Question
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2011, 11:49:53 PM »
The sizing dies should get down all the way but it doesn't need to.  I don't fully resize my .45-70 brass anyway.  I resize just enough to hold the bullet.
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