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  • The possessions of Occupy Oakland protestors are seen strewn about Frank H. Ogawa plaza Tuesday, Oct. 25, 2011, in Oakland, Calif. Occupy Oakland protestors were evicted from the plaza early this morning. (AP Photo/Ben Margot) The possessions of Occupy Oakland protestors are seen strewn about Frank H. Ogawa …
  • Food and cooking utensils are seen strewn about Frank H. Ogawa plaza Tuesday, Oct. 25, 2011, in Oakland, Calif. Occupy Oakland protestors were evicted from the plaza early this morning. Police in riot gear began clearing anti-Wall Street protesters on Tuesday morning from the plaza in front of Oakland's City Hall where they have been camped out for about two weeks. City officials had originally been supportive of the protesters, but the city later warned the protesters that they were breaking the law and could not stay in the encampment overnight. (AP Photo/Ben Margot) Food and cooking utensils are seen strewn about Frank H. Ogawa plaza Tuesday, Oct. …
  • Oakland police officers sift through possessions left behind by Occupy Oakland protestors Tuesday, Oct. 25, 2011, in Oakland, Calif. Occupy Oakland protestors were evicted from Frank H. Ogawa plaza early this morning. Police in riot gear began clearing anti-Wall Street protesters on Tuesday morning from the plaza in front of Oakland's City Hall where they have been camped out for about two weeks. City officials had originally been supportive of the protesters, but the city later warned the protesters that they were breaking the law and could not stay in the encampment overnight. (AP Photo/Ben Margot) Oakland police officers sift through possessions left behind by Occupy Oakland protestors …
   Business slideshows    See latest photos »    NEW YORK (AP) — Fed up with petty crime, the all-night racket of beating drums, the smell of human waste and the sight of trampled flowers and grass, police and neighbors are losing patience with some of the anti-Wall Street protests around the U.S.
In Oakland, Calif., police in riot gear fired tear gas and bean bags before daybreak Tuesday to disperse about 170 protesters who had been camping in front of City Hall for the past two weeks, and 75 people were arrested.
The mayor of Providence, R.I., is threatening to go to court within days to evict demonstrators from a park.
And businesses and residents near New York's Zuccotti Park, the unofficial headquarters of the movement that began in mid-September, are demanding something be done to discourage the hundreds of protesters from urinating in the street and making noise at all hours.
"A lot of tourists coming down from hotels are so disgusted and disappointed when they see this," said Stacey Tzortzatos, manager of a sandwich shop near Zuccotti Park. "I hope for the sake of the city the mayor does close this down."
She complained that the protesters who come in by the dozen to use her bathroom dislodged a sink and caused a flood, and that police barricades are preventing her normal lunch crowd from stopping by.
In Philadelphia, city officials have been waiting almost two weeks for Occupy Philly to respond to a letter containing a list of health and safety concerns. City Managing Director Richard Negrin said officials can't wait much longer to address hazards such as smoking in tightly packed tents, camp layouts that hinder emergency access, and exposure to human waste.
"They just can't ignore us indefinitely," Negrin said Tuesday. "Every day that they haven't addressed these public safety concerns simply increases the risk."
Stephen Campbell, a protester in Boston, said the troublemakers are the minority.
"We have a policy here: no drugs, no alcohol," he said. "Us occupiers really try to stick true to that. Other people who move in, who maybe have an alcohol problem or a drug problem, you know, we're not fully equipped to handle things like that."
City officials in Oakland had initially been supportive of the protesters, with Mayor Jean Quan saying that sometimes "democracy is messy." But tensions reached a boiling point after a sexual assault, a severe beating and a fire were reported and paramedics were denied access to the camp, according to city officials. They also cited complaints about threatening behavior and concerns about rats, fire hazards and public urination.
When police moved in, they were pelted with rocks, bottles and utensils from people in the camp's kitchen area, but no injuries were reported. Protesters were taken away in plastic handcuffs, most of them arrested on suspicion of illegal lodging.
Protesters disputed the city's claims about conditions at the camp. Lauren Richardson, a college student from Oakland, said that volunteers collected garbage and recycling every six hours, that water was boiled before being used to wash dishes, and that rats had infested the park long before the camp went up.
"It was very neat. It was very organized," Richardson said.
In New York, the neighborhood board scheduled a meeting Tuesday night to vote on a resolution that proposed off-site portable bathrooms funded by local donors, said Julie Menin, head of the board. The resolution also requested that loud noises, like the blast of air horns and group chanting, be limited to two hours during the day.
"Drumming has been going on late at night," she said.
The park's owner, Brookfield Office Properties, tried to push the protesters out two weeks ago to clean it but backed off at the last minute after a public outcry.
Menin said the neighborhood does not believe the protesters should be kicked out. "We do not want the city to use force in any way," she said. "And we think it's possible to address quality-of-life issues."
In Minneapolis, Hennepin County Commissioner Jeff Johnson said some constituents who work downtown are getting a little tired of the piles of belongings cluttering the plaza, while others are worried about escalating costs. The sheriff's department has already spent more than $200,000, most of that in overtime. About 100 to 150 demonstrators crowd the plaza during the day.
"I think most people I talk to are either supportive or understanding of people's right to say what they want and hold a protest or a rally, but when you start looking at the costs and how this is stringing out, it is wearing on some people's patience," Johnson said. "At first it looked like they were having a rally or trying to make a statement, but now it just looks like a game to them. Most people don't support that."
Fariyal Lakhani, owner of a kiosk next to an Atlanta park where a few dozen protesters have camped out, said people aren't buying candy bars and sodas, or they want things for free or at a steep discount.
"We're very upset," Lakhani said. "There's no business. Too much argument."
A 7-Eleven one block from the protests in Portland, Ore., reported a higher-than-normal $6,000 in shoplifting since the protest began Oct. 6. The store has added a security guard.
In Providence, Public Safety Commissioner Steven Pare initially said he would give the activists two or three days to remain in Burnside Park without a permit. But Monday night marked the 10th night of the encampment, now consisting of more than 100 tents. City officials said the grass is getting damaged, and they want to close the restrooms and prepare the park for winter.
Some of the adrenaline of the movement's early days in Providence — on full display during a spirited march of well over 1,000 people earlier this month — has worn off.
Richard Garganta, an unemployed website designer from West Warwick, said some protesters are getting burned out.
"Now they begin to see the long haul," he said. "I'm telling people, only do what you can do."
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Associated Press Writers Verena Dobnik and Deepti Hajela in New York; Amy Forliti in Minneapolis; Jay Lindsay in Boston; Marcus Wohlsen in Oakland, Calif.; Harry R. Weber in Atlanta; Erika Niedowski in Providence, R.I.; Nigel Duara in Portland, Ore.; and Kathy Matheson in Philadelphia contributed to this report.
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the Atlanta mayor told the oinkers here that the park closes at 11:00.
then the tax payers can clean up all the oinkers mess.
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Pretty cool how people focus in on the logistical affects of a large crowd engaged in a civil disobedience, RATHER THAN FOCUS ON THE ACTUAL TOPICS AND MESSAGES BEING BROUGHT FORTH....... :o ::) ::) ::)
 
 
...TM7

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We got their message in no uncertain terms....the Occupy parasites are filthy, smelly, untidy, slovenly ne'er-do-wells who choose to avoid that dreaded four letter word:W-O-R-K.  There is a three letter word that scares them, too: J-O-B.   

We also get the message that they are far left fringe......anarchists, communists, union thugs, CAIR wackos, eco-wackos, and other types as well.

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the Atlanta mayor told the oinkers here that the park closes at 11:00.
then the tax payers can clean up all the oinkers mess.

 
Are they actually making them leave at 11 pm?? Hope so. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
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the Atlanta mayor told the oinkers here that the park closes at 11:00.
then the tax payers can clean up all the oinkers mess.

 
Are they actually making them leave at 11 pm?? Hope so. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
that's our understanding.  the mayor is pretty mad.
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I work in Oakland,  Last week I walked over to see what these people wanted.  The place stunk, there was trash every where, and there were people causing health concerns with human waste.  This was not civil dis obedience. 
Most want the downfall of the country.  Some how they think that if there are no rich people all the poor will be rich.  Silly logic.
Clearly these peole want the social and economic equal to North Korea and Cubafor us.   I will be more than happy to pay to send them to either place to live in their paradise.

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I don't know as they will be leaving NYC any time soon since their bank account has swelled to half a million dollars. And donations keep pouring in! And with unions getting in the mix, who knows! And people are feeding them like stray dogs.
http://nation.foxnews.com/occupy-wall-street/2011/10/23/occupy-wall-st-rocked-scandal
 
Bette Midler wants to buy them some port-a-potties. Guess that would keep them from pooping on cop cars!
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/bette-midler-offers-to-buy-occupy-wall-st-protesters-porta-potties/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2046586/Occupy-Wall-Street-Shocking-photos-protester-defecating-POLICE-CAR.html
 
Wonder what issues these heroin dealers living in a tent with 6yr old are protesting for?
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/heroin-dealers-living-with-6-year-old-in-tent-busted-at-occupy-boston/
 
I guess CAIR speaks for social justice and Muslims.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/cair-at-occupy-wall-street-islam-stands-for-social-justice/
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I've been to a couple outdoor Tea Party rally gatherings. One in Wisconsin and one in Illinois. Funny, but I didn't see any trash, smell, noise, or crime? Damn those Tea Partiers anyhow, using bathrooms and throwing their trash in garbage cans......  :o

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I've been to a couple outdoor Tea Party rally gatherings. One in Wisconsin and one in Illinois. Funny, but I didn't see any trash, smell, noise, or crime? Damn those Tea Partiers anyhow, using bathrooms and throwing their trash in garbage cans......  :o

Thats because TPs can't stay that long.
They have jobs to get back to and responsabilities.......... ;)
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I work in Oakland,  Last week I walked over to see what these people wanted.  ...
Most want the downfall of the country.
Wow. Is that what they said?
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Clearly these peole want the social and economic equal to North Korea and Cubafor us.
Oh my... is that what they said?
Jesus said we should treat other as we'd want to be treated... and he didn't qualify that by their party affiliation, race, or even if they're of diff religion.

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In atlanta, the cops showed up at the park at 11:00 last night, told'em to leave, they refused, they all went to jail.
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I work in Oakland,  Last week I walked over to see what these people wanted.  ...
Most want the downfall of the country.
Wow. Is that what they said?
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Clearly these peole want the social and economic equal to North Korea and Cubafor us.
Oh my... is that what they said?

Well ya, thats what they said! As a matter of fact. Watch and listen for yourself..........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMV0TR3pGzg
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It all depends on just who and how many people you talk to. But the recuring theme throughout is anarchy and socialist principles. Which is not very productive.
 
The exception being the guy I saw interviewed that wants America to produce energy and fuel transportation with "star power". Whatever that is......................
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Pretty cool how people focus in on the logistical affects of a large crowd engaged in a civil disobedience, RATHER THAN FOCUS ON THE ACTUAL TOPICS AND MESSAGES BEING BROUGHT FORTH....... :o ::) ::) ::)
 
 
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Well have they offered any good messages or topics that don't disregard personal responsiblity ?
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Most of the posts remind me of the comments from rednecks and old farts concerning the Vietnam War protestors in the 60s. Right or wrong at least these people are trying to be involved in the political process. Better than just staying home and doing nothing. Now back to the regularly scheduled bashing. ::)
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All will be judged in the end . That said those protesting should get their own house in order first.
 I watched several saying to forgive student loans. I watched a program where F students were granted loans and allowed to go to college . Main reason was to get more funds for the colleges. So you have an institution lowering standards for a pay off, you have govt./banks going along with it and a student ( term is used figuratively ) all in concert to get by with something. I don't see one partner any more at fault than the others. Same for Wall st there were no complaints as long as small investors got a share of the booty .
 Why did the finger pointing only start when the golden goose got sick ?
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I knew it, I knew it; it is all GWB's fault.  He twisted those poor little college kid's arms and made them take loans.  The idea they should ever have to repay those loans is ludicrous.
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I knew it, I knew it; it is all GWB's fault.  He twisted those poor little college kid's arms and made them take loans.  The idea they should ever have to repay those loans is ludicrous.
;D ;D I repaid every loan I ever took out.  it never occured to me that someone else should pay them. ::)
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So its not the students fault to take out a loan they can't repay ? Hey they wanted to party right !
 When I got both my first and second house I was told I could get more loan than I did . Same when buying a truck. It was my decision as to what I knew I could pay back not what GWB or the bank thought I could.
 MAN up be responsible for yourself.
HEY THE STUDENTS GOT A REAL EDUCATION ON NOT SPENDING MONEY THEY DID NOT HAVE NOW DIDN"T THEY  ;)
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So its not the students fault to take out a loan they can't repay ? Hey they wanted to party right !
 When I got both my first and second house I was told I could get more loan than I did . Same when buying a truck. It was my decision as to what I knew I could pay back not what GWB or the bank thought I could.
 MAN up be responsible for yourself.
HEY THE STUDENTS GOT A REAL EDUCATION ON NOT SPENDING MONEY THEY DID NOT HAVE NOW DIDN"T THEY  ;)
but liberals are not capable of learning.
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I work in Oakland,  Last week I walked over to see what these people wanted.  ...
Most want the downfall of the country.
Wow. Is that what they said?
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Clearly these peole want the social and economic equal to North Korea and Cubafor us.
Oh my... is that what they said?
Not in those words but yes they the wild eyed loonies of them want en end ot all coperations.  The want an end to banks, End all debt.  They think there should be a maximum amount of money any one person should be able to make.  They don't say what it is, but they think the government should set income levels.
I did not have a lot of time and I do not suffer fools well.  Any conversations you try to have with them and if you oppose their view they shout you down and end the conversation.

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on tonights news in atlanta, a reporter cornered the spokesman for atlanta oinkers/occupiers and it seems he was using an alias because he had been in prison for burglary and drugs.
real winner. ::)
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on tonights news in atlanta, a reporter cornered the spokesman for atlanta oinkers/occupiers and it seems he was using an alias because he had been in prison for burglary and drugs.
real winner. ::)

 
HEH, now thats a real shocker. Whodathunkit?? POWDERMAN.  ;) ;)
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What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
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on tonights news in atlanta, a reporter cornered the spokesman for atlanta oinkers/occupiers and it seems he was using an alias because he had been in prison for burglary and drugs.
real winner. ::)

 
HEH, now thats a real shocker. Whodathunkit?? POWDERMAN.  ;) ;)
I would say that it's typical of the oinkers/occupiers everywhere.
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I do not know what the occupiers are doing in the different cities. I don't know for sure what they are demanding.
If it is what we hear. The irony is  the same political leaders that made these people through hand outs, welfare and such are now dealing with their own policies.
If the occupiers are stand up people demanding a fair shake from a thieving government I hope they fight and win.
If not, may the fleas of a thousand cities infest their nether regions and the same for the politicians that put them there.

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I do not know what the occupiers are doing in the different cities. I don't know for sure what they are demanding.
If it is what we hear. The irony is  the same political leaders that made these people through hand outs, welfare and such are now dealing with their own policies.
If the occupiers are stand up people demanding a fair shake from a thieving government I hope they fight and win.
If not, may the fleas of a thousand cities infest their nether regions and the same for the politicians that put them there.

Besides there being a really good point in that post,.....It made me itch....YIKES!   :o
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I do not know what the occupiers are doing in the different cities. I don't know for sure what they are demanding.
If it is what we hear. The irony is  the same political leaders that made these people through hand outs, welfare and such are now dealing with their own policies.
If the occupiers are stand up people demanding a fair shake from a thieving government I hope they fight and win.
If not, may the fleas of a thousand cities infest their nether regions and the same for the politicians that put them there.
The Morons in San Francisco are clean and look like a group of people camping and are not making a general problem down by Fishermans Warf.  They said they are going to move to the Civic center (City hall area) and the answer is NO from the city.
The Morons in Oakland are dirty, creating a rat Problem as well as a human waste problem that can lead to Typhus and other health problems.  Today I was in SF and while waiting to get into a building (work related) we were talking with a police officer and asked when they were going to move out the OWS group here since Oakland went nuts yesterday.  I figured that since Oakland went nuts that all the cities would close it down before they could fortify the tent cities.  Oh we were asking becauise we were in the area and did not want ot get caught in a riot.

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The message they are putting out is Hate the Jews. The antisocial Gemans filled the Beer Halls in the 1930s. They also centered around Hate the Jews. They railed against the rich Jews controlling all the wealth. The new leaders of Germany supported this hate the wealthy. And yes the German people listened to their argument. They were supported by the German Elite. They even found a man with the Final Solution. Does anyone really think Americans should listen to these hate filled people?? ???

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I work in Oakland,  Last week I walked over to see what these people wanted.  ...
Most want the downfall of the country.
Wow. Is that what they said?
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Clearly these peole want the social and economic equal to North Korea and Cubafor us.
Oh my... is that what they said?
Not in those words but yes they the wild eyed loonies of them want en end ot all coperations.  The want an end to banks, End all debt.  They think there should be a maximum amount of money any one person should be able to make.  They don't say what it is, but they think the government should set income levels.
I did not have a lot of time and I do not suffer fools well.  Any conversations you try to have with them and if you oppose their view they shout you down and end the conversation.
Here, you can hear it from the horses mouth, listen to what the occupy people want:
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW56Z-0xwIQ
 
 Listen carefully people, these people really believe in what they say! ::)
BTW What the heck did she say! ??? ;D
"You are entitled to your own opinions, but you are not entitled to your own facts." - Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan

When you allow a lie to go unchallenged, it becomes the truth.

My quandary, I personally, don't think I have enough Handi's but, I know I have more Handi's than I really need or should have.

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