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Offline wileynet

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loads for 45/70 handi ?
« on: October 30, 2011, 08:00:37 AM »
just traded for some 45/70 cast they measure 457- 458 and weigh at 495 with gas check, what would you recommend for load, dont want a shoulder breaker just something in 100 yard range
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Re: loads for 45/70 handi ?
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2011, 08:56:40 AM »
Never gone that large personally.  These are from MDSmith's pages.. ;)
500 grain LEAD MODERN Loads
    A2495     49.0 gr.   1,670 MAX
    A3100     60.0 gr.   1,493 MAX
    AA 5744   26.0 gr.   1,217 MAX
    AA 5744   24.0 gr.   1,128
    Varget    35.0 gr.   1,169 good
    Varget    37.0 gr.   1,255 max

http://www.reloadammo.com/4570load.htm
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Re: loads for 45/70 handi ?
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2011, 09:59:58 AM »
What powder(s) do you have now?
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Re: loads for 45/70 handi ?
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2011, 01:57:43 PM »
varget,H4895,H4198,H414, H110 will buy more if need since i was just blessed with some 400 gr speer FNSP jacketed bullets
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Re: loads for 45/70 handi ?
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2011, 03:13:20 PM »
Quote from: wileynet on October 30, 2011, 08:00:37 AM
just traded for some 45/70 cast they measure 457- 458 and weigh at 495 with gas check, what would you recommend for load, dont want a shoulder breaker just something in 100 yard range


Have you slugged your bore?  Mine measures .4590-.4595.

those of yours would be far too small for my Handi
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Re: loads for 45/70 handi ?
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2011, 03:45:36 PM »
not yet may try it tonight
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Re: loads for 45/70 handi ?
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2011, 03:58:02 PM »
If they are a little small, I've gotten improved performance from leads using a dose of tumble lube like Lee Liquid Alox.  It's messy and stinky, but increases diameter enough to get better performance and avoid leading.  ;)
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Re: loads for 45/70 handi ?
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2011, 03:59:12 PM »
slugged barrel, with egg sinker left a nice ring at the top, measures 4525
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Re: loads for 45/70 handi ?
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2011, 04:01:05 PM »
 :o :o  Thats the size of a .45 Colt Classic Carbine!  THat's pistol diameter.   :o :o
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Re: loads for 45/70 handi ?
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2011, 05:25:24 PM »
Quote from: tacklebury on October 30, 2011, 04:01:05 PM
:o :o  Thats the size of a .45 Colt Classic Carbine!  THat's pistol diameter.   :o :o
nope 45-70
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Re: loads for 45/70 handi ?
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2011, 05:34:19 PM »
slugged twice more same diameter
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Re: loads for 45/70 handi ?
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2011, 01:10:26 AM »
Quote from: tacklebury on October 30, 2011, 04:01:05 PM
:o :o  Thats the size of a .45 Colt Classic Carbine!  THat's pistol diameter.   :o :o

.452 = .45LC
 Bullet sizes vary from .450" for jacketed to .454" for some lead in diameter. Most are either .451" (jacketed) or .452" (lead) and Sierra even makes jacketed bullets for the Colt SAA that are .4515" splitting the difference.

.458 = .45-70
Bullet sizes vary from .458" for jacketed to .460" for some lead in diameter.
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Re: loads for 45/70 handi ?
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2011, 04:17:41 AM »
Quote from: wileynet on October 30, 2011, 03:59:12 PM
slugged barrel, with egg sinker left a nice ring at the top, measures 4525

That's normal for the lands, what's it measure in across the grooves, the widest dimension of the slug?

Tim
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