Author Topic: topper 30-30 found... (Read 3469 times)

gcrank1 · « **Reply #30 on:** November 04, 2011, 03:51:46 AM »

Those two piece barrel band sling mounts are hard to get tight enough to keep them from shifting, and marring the finish. Some HD Loctite or epoxy might help that, but I gave up on the thing as I just cant trust the small screw and all to keep from busting and banging my rifle down when I least expect it.

Joe S. · « **Reply #31 on:** November 04, 2011, 03:59:43 AM »

Never had an issue with one on a marlin mag tub but its not tapered either so I'd bet getting it tight isn't as difficult

gcrank1 · « **Reply #32 on:** November 04, 2011, 04:35:27 AM »

FWIW, I know I can get a little OC......
I found myself tying a 'safety line from the sling arouind the barrel 'just in case', so I knew I wasnt going to be confident with it; but thats me. It might work fine, in fact, I havent heard that they are a problem, but if one is going to break it will be mine (you know what I mean!). If my rifle banged off the ground because of it, or the barrel got marred up because it twisted, I would be well ticked that I didnt see it coming and do something about it.

Joe S. · « **Reply #33 on:** November 04, 2011, 04:37:47 AM »

Yea I understand that!

Joe S. · « **Reply #34 on:** November 04, 2011, 10:00:31 AM »

I like the reduced loads. Had a spare minute to run out to the range at lunch and got her dialed in for the morning. This is at 50 yards. 3 shots. We aren't gonna take a longer shot on a deer until she gets a little experience under her belt so I'm comfortable with this out to 75 or so

Joe S. · « **Reply #35 on:** November 04, 2011, 11:18:27 AM »

Oh and the ejector works VERY well! Gotta make sure to move your face!

tacklebury · « **Reply #36 on:** November 04, 2011, 02:54:55 PM »

Good deal and nice shooting. I have had no luck getting my buddies 158 to shoot the 30-30 well. 8( We've tried so many factory loads, lightened the trigger, all the accurizing stuff, no go. His is one of the original 20 ga. - 30-30 combo's that came out the first year, so we've really wanted to get it going for him. 8(

44 Man · « **Reply #37 on:** November 05, 2011, 02:46:40 AM »

On the Nosler web site, the BT are rated for 3200 fpt down to 1700 fps. That means that the BT's are very good at even low 30-30 velocities. Since I have a large supply of Sierra's 125 Pro Hunter bullets on hand, I haven't loaded the BT's in my 30-30 Topper yet. But I can tell you it really, really shoots good with the 125 Sierra bullets and I would expect it to do well with the BT's also. I do plan to try some BT's next. 44 Man

Joe S. · « **Reply #38 on:** November 30, 2011, 08:43:08 AM »

sigh...

was at a pawn shop today talking to my friend that works there and he has a .410 shotgun on the rack with a laminated straight grip stock set with NEF medallion bedded into it. it is about a 1/4" to a 1/2" shorter than the stock i just put on the rifle for her... thinking about buying it and swapping the stocks... again...

its just soooo pretty!

Joe S. · « **Reply #39 on:** November 30, 2011, 07:17:25 PM »

Well I got it.

Swapped out the stocks tonight and got a crash course in inletting!

The pardner 20ga stock I had that fit the 30-30 perfectly did NOT fit the contour of the barrel nor did the barrel stud hole work. Apparently at some point the factory decided to start using a different type of barrel stud. The one on the 410 was more than just a stud, while the Topper (and apparently the 20ga pardner) was simply a stud hanging down. The 410 forend went on the 30-30 fine but not vice versa so out comes the dremel! I had to open up the barrel channel a good bit from the 20ga forend to fit the 410 contour.

not to worried about it as this 410 will be cut down more than likely and spend most of the rest of its life on a 4wheeler rack. The 30-30 looks nice but the channel on the forend is noticeable wider than the barrel. I can live with it. It looks good on there!

Since changing out the forend I wonder how much my point of impact is going to change? Hmmm...

Don't guess it matters much. The nicer stock set totally makes it worth having to readjust the scope's settings. May take this opportunity and go ahead and throw that 2-7x32 prostaff I have on there. Dunno yet...

nanuk-O-dah-Nort · « **Reply #40 on:** November 30, 2011, 11:48:36 PM »

what are your thougths on sliings?

I use mine for carrying only, seldom for shooting, so I HATE that they are on the Bottom of the stocks.

I have a Ruger1 and Cannot sling it across my back.

Same with bolt guns.

BUT I did have a 98k that had the sling on the side! What a GREAT Idea.

Now, I'm thinking Barrel Band and reliefs cut through the butt to make a side carrying sling, that way, nothing digs into my back during the carry.

did I tell you I HATE when that happens?

Joe S. · « **Reply #41 on:** December 01, 2011, 02:09:08 AM »

The traditional mounted slings don't bother me too much altho I like the way my m1 carbine carries

Joe S. · « **Reply #42 on:** December 24, 2011, 05:56:32 PM »

Just let my daughter have the rifle. She seems really happy with it knowing its hers rather than just one of dads rifles she gets to hunt with.

rickt300 · « **Reply #43 on:** December 26, 2011, 07:06:58 AM »

I gave my old Topper 20 ga/30-30 to my Dad. I loaded some pretty fast 130 gr. loads in it for him, the 130 gr. Speer hollow point at 2500 fps. It has a very old 2 3/4 power herters scope on it and really lays them in there for him. He hunts deer from a rocking chair overlooking his garden and only takes broadside chest shots. So far no deer has gone more than 50 feet. I used Imr 3031 and this old rifle has a long throat, pressures seem very mild. When I used it I shot a lot of loads using the 100 gr. plinkers on top of 14.0 grs of Imr 4227, what a fun load and I bet your daughter would love practising with it. I wore out the turtles in our ponds with it. The 110 gr. Speer "Varminter" with the same powder charge is more of the same but with explosive expansion on horse apples and turtles. I would bet the 100 gr. bullet would make a fine small game and turkey load as well.

T.R. · « **Reply #44 on:** December 26, 2011, 11:18:30 AM »

My cousin's friend joined us for many deer drives. He always carried his Topper 30-30 but his model had a long fore end which went to the muzzle. We kidded him about his "club". Don't leave home without it...

No problems with accuracy or killing power; this guy downed several deer during his years hunting with us.

TR

Joe S. · « **Reply #45 on:** December 26, 2011, 12:42:06 PM »

Id love to find an old topper with that forend

quickdtoo · « **Reply #46 on:** December 26, 2011, 01:02:30 PM »

Look for a model 157.

Tim

ratherbefishin · « **Reply #47 on:** December 26, 2011, 01:51:27 PM »

I picked up an old Topper 30/30 with a 20 guage extra barrel at the gunshow a while back ,I had an old 2.75X Scope Chief and put that onnit-but somehow never got around to shooting it-but it looks to be in good shape.Being In Canada,we can't ship firearms across the border-so we can't avail ourselves of the extra barrel program[our respective governments are terribly concerned a terrorist would stock up on single shot rifles and so legitimate hunters are penalized by draconian import /export laws....]

Winter Hawk · « **Reply #48 on:** December 26, 2011, 03:30:38 PM »

Oh Tim, You sure know how to hurt a guy! Wish my 058 looked that good.

-Kees-

ratherbefishin · « **Reply #49 on:** December 26, 2011, 04:23:10 PM »

what years did they make that full stock model #157?

tom548 · « **Reply #50 on:** December 27, 2011, 04:07:20 AM »

I use the Sierra 125 grain (#2120) in my 308. They are going at 2900 fps and seem to work well as I take mostly heart/lung shots. This year I took a shot at a moving 8 point in a wooded area, the only clear shot was between some trees and I was not totally sure of the exact spot but was sure it was the shoulder or heart/lung area. He went about 10 yards and fell. The bullet took out the front leg on the near side and far side and bullet was lodged under the skin. Perfect mushroom and weight was 108 grains. This is one of only of 2 bullets I have ever found, the other weighed 111 grains. So you can see the 125 at 30-30 speed will be fine.

Joe S. · « **Reply #51 on:** December 27, 2011, 04:24:42 AM »

Thats cool. I love findin bullets.

Yo quick. I know you wanna sell me that 157 dont ya?

quickdtoo · « **Reply #52 on:** December 27, 2011, 05:13:32 AM »

Quote from: Joe S. on December 27, 2011, 04:24:42 AM

Yo quick. I know you wanna sell me that 157 dont ya?

I'd love it too since it's not mine, just some pics I gleaned from the net, here's some more to whet you appetite!

I'm not sure when they were made exactly, that would be a question to ask in the H&R Misc forum, one of the Jims will know.

Tim

Joe S. · « **Reply #53 on:** December 27, 2011, 06:09:33 AM »

Man thats nice

gcrank1 · « **Reply #54 on:** December 27, 2011, 08:17:10 AM »

My 1981 H&R Inc. catalog shows the Model 157 ('Alpine carbine styling'), 22" barrel in 22Hornet or 30-30. It is the only cat. I have from that period so I cant tell you when it was intro'd or ended.

Joe S. · « **Reply #55 on:** January 30, 2012, 05:23:16 PM »

Scope isnt gonna work out.

Cant see anything after sunset even when i can still see with my naked eye....

Pulled it on favor of a 2-7x32 Nikon Prostaff.

gcrank1 · « **Reply #56 on:** January 31, 2012, 04:33:09 AM »

Nice compliment of that scope logo to your wood!
Now if you could only find some 'gold' sling swivels..........

44 Man · « **Reply #57 on:** February 02, 2012, 04:54:37 AM »

The 125 gr BT's work well in reduced loads also. They are designed to work as advertised clear down to 1700 fps. I load my 7-08 with reduced loads using 120 gr BT's, and they preform great. 44 Man

Joe S. · « **Reply #58 on:** February 02, 2012, 05:02:13 AM »

Ive hunted with this thing a couple times and its a joy. Got a local leather guy workin on a pink sling and butt cuff so i can personalize it to my daughter's tastes a little better. I want kind of a distressed pink look. Interested to see what he comes up with. May have to quit hunting with it tho.

gcrank1 · « **Reply #59 on:** February 02, 2012, 05:42:32 AM »

'Distressed Pink'.......strange sound, that......
I sympathize, Joe, I have a g-daughter that would do monochrome pink everyday if her mom let her. I will bet you get big kudos for that sling

.
BTW, a white leather stain base with a wash of red while still damp should come out pink. After that, when about half dry, rub with a coarse cloth to distress. Use a light touch, though, so you dont work it too much at once.