Author Topic: 375 Win (Read 1705 times)

Rupe/PA · « **on:** January 12, 2004, 05:30:28 AM »

Been looking for a 375 Winchester Hunter barrel, stainless preferred. I checked with Eds and he has none at this time. Any help would be appreciated.

helobill · « **Reply #1 on:** January 12, 2004, 10:51:01 AM »

Only 375 Win I've seen recently is on E-bay, it's still got 4 days to go and is up to $158 already. At the gun show last weekend I only saw one guy with a half dozen used barrels and they were all priced over $175. Course he didn't sell any of them.
Bill

Rupe/PA · « **Reply #2 on:** January 12, 2004, 12:45:04 PM »

Thanks for the heads-up. I'm watching it.

flyfisher · « **Reply #3 on:** January 12, 2004, 12:48:18 PM »

I bought one brand new off of auctionarms.com about a year ago. If you're in no big hurry, auctionarms.com or GunBroker.com may have one from time to time, but I would think that E-bay would be the best option.

Big Gun · « **Reply #4 on:** January 14, 2004, 03:47:41 AM »

M&M Trading Post has a standard SS Super 14 listed as like new for $195 - not cheap, but it depends on how bad you want it I guess. I buy from these guys on occasion when I can not find items elsewhere or do not want to wait for one to appear on an auction site.

http://pages.prodigy.net/mktcdyksman/conbarls

Bullseye · « **Reply #5 on:** January 14, 2004, 04:28:40 PM »

I have bought two blue Super 14's in the last year and sold one. Paid $175 for one at Ed's NIB and $185 for the second NIB from an individual. Sold the one for $180. That is the price range of all the ones I have seen lately.

You do need to look into it Chris, it is a neat round. Lots of power but not terrible to shoot. Mine will shoot 1 1/2 groups at 100 yards which is pretty good with me pulling the trigger. Mine will shoot circles around my 30-30 with just a tad more recoil and a bunch more knockdown power. Can you tell I like mine?

CWG · « **Reply #6 on:** January 14, 2004, 04:54:54 PM »

I got a 14" SS one about two years ago, paid 180.00 for it. Dont care to hear it was an outrageous price. I LOVE THE THING! I bought 6 boxes from a distributor who was closing ammo out, wicked accurate, same big hole at 50 and about three times that at 100. Hit a gallon milk jug frozen at 150 three times in a row, yes...LOL, very technical target, but curious about drop. Love it, my favorite contender cartridge of all time..well top four anyhow. (by the way the first shot blew the jug into two big pieces, and yes, hit those pieces)
Burris 2-7 posilock on top.
Will flatten a whitetail with a proper hit. Like an anchor. In Ohio its the next best thing to a "real" rifle. I used it this year instead of any blackpowder rig at my disposal. Love it.

Rupe/PA · « **Reply #7 on:** January 14, 2004, 05:23:12 PM »

Curious to know what mounts you are using on the 375 Win. I s the TSOB mount system advisable for the cartridge ?

CWG · « **Reply #8 on:** January 15, 2004, 02:23:52 AM »

bases are Lupe, and both rings twist in, some rosin and lock the "posi-lok" in hasn't moved.
Sighted it in for the 2002 season and hasn't moved since. Amazing.
Recoil is shocking but not too serious. I really only shoot it five times at 100 to check zero and then hunt.
best, CWG

get one if you can, they are an excellent whitetail round, with practice I'd take 200 yard shot. (check the ballistics)
Be forewarned, ammo is expensive and sometimes hard to get,but its not like you'd take this to a prairie dog town!!
http://www.fishandhunttexas.com/375_winchester.htm
This was the article that made me buy one!

CWG · « **Reply #9 on:** January 15, 2004, 03:34:23 AM »

Please forgive the unprofessional data...this AINT my 6BR
About .5 to .6 high at 50, about dead on at 100 and...at 150..where the vertical post comes to a point- half way between that and center cross hair...I'd guess, and just a guess brother, maybe thats 4 inches give or take. Mine does NOT like the wind.
I'd really like to try that Nosler Ballistic tip if I start reloading for this one.
At 200 I was holding where the vert post is thickest before it starts its taper. These were just a few informal plinking shots here at the house at a frozen milk jug.
Mind you this is my Burris, not a chrony, and I just didnt spend the time like on one of my varmint rigs.
Also...it does kick, so extensive research was not high on my list.
I felt condident to 100 with a lousy rest and 150 if I was in my treestand with the padded rail that serves as an arm rest.
With practice I think this could do 200 yards on a whitetail..but I'd like to test the bullet, do some serious chrony work and start loading for it, not the factory flat nosed projectile available.
I fancied making some subsonics and use cast bullets, but never started loading for it.
I did try a shot at a feral cat around 170 yards and missed. I felt it would have been a lung shot whitetail however, but aint no varmint round.
If you come across one grab it. You'll enjoy it. Its one of the few Contender barrels I will hang onto...30-30's, 22's, pistol cartridges seem to come and go. But the 375 is here to stay...that and the looks you get when they see the cartridge in the bullet holder on your sling is worth the hassle right there :grin:
My only suggestion, and sage 375'er advice would be to see how available loaded ammo or brass is before diving in. They have either discontinued or are threatening to do so, so think about that- thats the only downside I found. But I scrounged a lifetime supply of loaded ammo, and I'm keeping the brass just in case.
By the way, recoil -to me- seemed like a 44 mag in a light\medium frame wheel gun.

wheelgun · « **Reply #10 on:** January 15, 2004, 05:15:16 AM »

You might try Rons tc I have not looked there in a while he may have one.

Rupe/PA · « **Reply #11 on:** January 15, 2004, 06:24:13 AM »

Thanks Wheelgun - Tried Rons and he has none at this time. I located a 14 inch blued and I think a SS. Price is not sheap, but ....... Have to make my decision. Both barrels are NIB, which means something too. If I buy at the price, then the search goes on for mount, dies and brass. Lots of fun and it keeps me off the streets. Boys and their toys !

Bullseye · « **Reply #12 on:** January 15, 2004, 12:25:48 PM »

I have a Leupold Dual Dovetail Mount on mine. TSOB would not be needed in my opinion, it just does not kick that hard.

Loaded ammo is hard to find, but brass is still readily available. I plan on keeping mine for the rest of my life, so I bought 500 new cases and they are sitting in the closet.

In my opinion, a 14" barrel is needed to get good performance. A 12" might be okay, but think I would stay away from a 10". I reload with 31 gr. of IMR 4198, that is a lot of powder to burn in a 10" tube. This barrel is the reason I have never bought a 45-70 barrel. I figure this thing will do all I need to do in this country. Still, a 45-70 would be cool.

Rupe/PA · « **Reply #13 on:** January 15, 2004, 05:46:32 PM »

Thanks for all the chat and info on the 375 Win. Appreciate the help.

mrcasull · « **Reply #14 on:** January 16, 2004, 01:01:45 AM »

I bought a 12" hunter 375 at a gunshop going out for $105.00 2 weeks before this past years deer season and it has now killed 2 deer with the 220 horn fp this bullet is going 1975 fps with 1" accuracy not to bad with only a couple of weeks to work with it.This bullet performs alot like my 357 max with 180 xtp's at 2000 fps.I did find one bullet in one of the deer that I shot with it and it weighed 166 grains with great expansion.This is a real keeper.Good luck finding one.

CWG · « **Reply #15 on:** January 16, 2004, 01:07:32 AM »

Quote from: mrcasull

I bought a 12" hunter 375 at a gunshop going out for $105.00 2 weeks before this past years deer season and it has now killed 2 deer with the 220 horn fp this bullet is going 1975 fps with 1" accuracy not to bad with only a couple of weeks to work with it.This bullet performs alot like my 357 max with 180 xtp's at 2000 fps.I did find one bullet in one of the deer that I shot with it and it weighed 166 grains with great expansion.This is a real keeper.Good luck finding one.

:grin: :grin: yeah, THAT post was the nail in the coffin! LOL. I figgur he was sitting on the edge thinking..yeah maybe I'll get one, made a few calls, ran into a dead end...now your post was the "over the top" post.
yup, we oughta start a 375 club...come to think of it, the 375 IS a club. :grin:

Rupe/PA · « **Reply #16 on:** January 16, 2004, 05:09:52 PM »

OK fellows, I'm getting closer and will know for certain next week if the barrel is for real. While I'm waiting I began thinking about load data. For those of you who shoot and load for the 375 Win, where did you get data ?

flyfisher · « **Reply #17 on:** January 17, 2004, 05:44:12 AM »

Here's a link that might help...

http://www.again.net/~steve/375p_3_220.html

I found it some time ago, and have used data for the 220 gr. Hornady with excellent results.

Hope it helps

Rupe/PA · « **Reply #18 on:** January 17, 2004, 12:44:26 PM »

Flyfisher, thanks for the data. It will come in handy. I understand that Rocky Raub did an article in Handloader in 1996 on the Contender and the 375 Win. You don't happen to have a copy, do you ? As you know, I've been looking for a 14" barrel and was not having a great deal of luck. I really wanted a stainless. Well. I finally found a blued 14" NIB and bought it. Two days later I get an e-mail offering a NIB 14" stainless ! You guessed it, I bought that one too. It looks like I'm going to have a barrel for sale in the very near future. Talk about impulsive !! I contacted Midway to order some brass from their sales flyer today and they are sold out. They said that Winchester does a limited run on 375 brass only once a year. I found some at LS&B. Thanks for listening. Talk with you again.

Regards - Rupe/PA

Rupe/PA · « **Reply #19 on:** January 18, 2004, 12:38:50 PM »

Those who have been reading my post know that I was looking for a 375 Win Hunter barrel in stainless. Well, I bought one NIB and was feeling sorta bad because I paid what some say is top dollar for it. My price was $225. Today I drove 21/2 hours to a gunshow in Pittsburgh, PA and saw a number of blued barrels in very popular calibers. These barrels were going for around $249. Now I don't feel quite so bad; impulsive maybe, but not bad. I'm happy !

CWG · « **Reply #20 on:** January 18, 2004, 02:52:35 PM »

Quote from: Rupe/PA

Those who have been reading my post know that I was looking for a 375 Win Hunter barrel in stainless. Well, I bought one NIB and was feeling sorta bad because I paid what some say is top dollar for it. My price was $225. Today I drove 21/2 hours to a gunshow in Pittsburgh, PA and saw a number of blued barrels in very popular calibers. These barrels were going for around $249. Now I don't feel quite so bad; impulsive maybe, but not bad. I'm happy !

pfffffft to that. Important rule #1, YOU GOT IT, now shoot it. Whats a "great price" say....175 (if you believe what you read here) Ok, 50.00 "too much" (this makes me nuts when reading the forums) How long does it take to earn fifty? A week lets say to get an extra fifty bucks. One week....scrounge for a month, or more, to get a "deal"...a week is cheap! :grin:
congrats, stainless no less, I personally wont own blued. Excellent. I think thats a good deal. NIB no less, I got mine used with a buggered screw for 180 I recall, 2 or 3 years ago. Good deal indeed.

CWG

Rupe/PA · « **Reply #21 on:** January 18, 2004, 03:01:06 PM »

CWG - Thanks. I feel better now and will probably have a restful night, excepting the dreams about scope, mounts, brass, loads and time until completion. I have been shooting Contenders since the 60's and this 375 Win is my biggest bigbore. Can't wait to pull, I mean squeeze, the trigger.

flyfisher · « **Reply #22 on:** January 18, 2004, 05:34:44 PM »

Rupe,

Too bad that this year's deer season is up! I'm sure that you really want to check the .375's performance on one of our "monster" whitetails. Don't worry though...wait 'till you see what it does to a PA groundhog...you won't be disappointed with the results. I remember my first time with the .375 and a groundhog. I wasn't sure if I should feel bad for the groundhog or laugh my head off at the sheer carnage of the whole scenario (I believe I did laugh histerically at the sight of such a thing). Have a blast with the new barrel, you won't be disappointed!

Flyfisher

freddogs · « **Reply #23 on:** January 19, 2004, 06:14:27 AM »

This sounds like it would make a good elk round. I saw some loaded ammo at a gunshow and it looked really big. There was brass for sale also. For some reason putting a big hole in stuff sounds really attactive. Has anyone used this on larger game?

Rupe/PA · « **Reply #24 on:** January 19, 2004, 03:56:30 PM »

Thanks Flyfisher - I'll be sure to do that on an empty stomach. Didn't really consider it as a varmint round, but I'm sure it will work. I'll let you know.

Big Gun · « **Reply #25 on:** January 20, 2004, 12:32:06 AM »

I picked up a Contender factory, 14 inch Hunter Ejector, blued, NIB about a month ago - I paid top dollar for it - but I kind of figure it is worth it since the guy bought this barrel some time ago and had money tied up for years while this thing sat on the shelf, that money could have been invested in something else and making money for the guy. I have not yet purchased a scope for this but am strongly considering a 2.5 -7 lighted TC scope - I don't think a guy can go wrong with this one. I am getting excited to try this barrel out after reading these posts - will need to see about finding some ammo, I know Winchester still factory loads this cartridge so it should not be too difficult. Is anyone shooting the factory ammo in this round? What kind of accuracy are you getting?

Rupe/PA · « **Reply #26 on:** January 20, 2004, 02:52:39 AM »

I was told that brass is not always readily available for the 375 Win. I had received a sale flyer from Midway several weeks ago. They had listed brass at a pretty good price. I called the other day to order and was told that they were sold out and that Winchester only does a limited run of brass for the 375 once a year. I then called LSB and ordered 100 cases for $31. LSB has brass in stock. I went to a gunshow Sunday and only found one vender that had brass. He was selling it for $7.50/20. I did not find any 375 bullets in the lighter weights at the show and only one set of dies. The dies were RCBS and they wanted $50 for them. Dies you can order from a number of sources. Redding dies can be found for under $40. I also found only one box of loaded 375. I chose not to buy them because I reload so much. I too am waiting to get the gun put together and am anxious to fire it. I'll let you know.

kirkwhitaker · « **Reply #27 on:** January 23, 2004, 07:32:49 AM »

am well pleased with my 14" hunter..
am using 200 sierra,220gr horn, 225gr horn sp, 275gr fngc and 285gr fn...want to get a 255 lee fn also...cast bullets are going 1300 to 1400fps..fun
has anyone shot any of the round ball or conical bp bullets in it?
deer doing go far if you hit one...is probably my fav barrel...it and my hornet..
kw

Brian-wi · « **Reply #28 on:** January 24, 2004, 06:10:06 PM »

I first bought mine in 1996 in 14 inch barrel with scope rail set up!I have shot several whitetails and blackbears. :grin: I have used 210 grain Barnes "X" bullets for the Blackbears.I use 200 to 220 grainers from Seirra,Hornady for deer with great results :grin: I handload all my rounds for this barrel!! I love this round!!