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Re: Trail/Hiking gun
« Reply #60 on: December 28, 2011, 05:22:53 PM »
I've always hiked with my old  1980 , .357 Security Six, 2.75 inch barrel,
Weight a bit over 2lbs, and fits well and easily accsessable .
I just picked up a 2.75 inch Security Six in like new condition a few weeks ago. It is a handy little handgun so I will be using it as a hiking gun as well. Solid enough for full power loads and light enough for all day carry.

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Re: Trail/Hiking gun
« Reply #61 on: December 29, 2011, 01:28:10 AM »
Would it be improper for me to comment that I see some amount of error in thinking here---IMO  ;D .
I live in an urban jungle. When I stroll--in whatever context you wish to put it--I want to be prepared. I am old, slow, and SLOW.
I would think that in whatever setting you are in, it would be adviseable to be prepared to stop ANY threat.
I guess what I am saying is that a .44mag could stop a rabid mouse or a rabid wolf.
Who know what lies ahead---I was a Boy Scout.
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Re: Trail/Hiking gun
« Reply #62 on: December 29, 2011, 01:31:49 AM »
The 44mag needs a target with enough resistance to make the bullet work if its a hollow point or such. If it dosen't work you have .44 hole thru. the target with little damage unless it hits something important. The 357 mag. has proven better on humans , the biggest threat in the urban jungle .
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Re: Trail/Hiking gun
« Reply #63 on: December 29, 2011, 01:39:18 AM »
Then the 9x23 is the best.
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Re: Trail/Hiking gun
« Reply #64 on: December 29, 2011, 02:01:24 AM »
only if the bullet is 357 JSWHP , I firmly believe the shoulder on the bullet adds to its ablity to achieve the record it has.
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Re: Trail/Hiking gun
« Reply #65 on: December 29, 2011, 07:48:03 AM »
45 colt BBH, hip holster, six loaded, 12 in a slider. William, scabbards go on the saddle with a lever rifle installed... ::)  and I'm pretty ol..er "experienced" too.  ;)

Nice set up. What lever gun are you carrying? I also would be interested in your choice of loads in your 45 Colt.

AKHIKER, about the only time I would have a rifle on my horse would be packing in to hunting camp. Rifle of choice for that is a Marlin 308 express. IF, I were just foolin about around my neighborhood (70,000 acres of private timberland out my back gate) and wanted to pack a rifle it would probably be a 45 colt Puma.
MY 45 colt loads...hmmmm, I've tried and done lots, many different powders and bullets, high to low and back again... Looking for the "magic" load that'll shoot maximum +fps, BR accuracy, managable recoil (subjective) and will leave the barrel cleaner than when I started. What I've settled for, and works for me and my applications (my current favorite) is 6gr. Trailboss, 260gr SWC. Runs right at 800fps over MY chrony with MY BBH. Clean, accurate, very easy to handle. It'll kill anything in my neighborhood. For a little more juice but still very manageable, it's pretty hard to beat 8.5 -9.0 gr of Unique with the same or similiar bullet. (although I prefer 16.5gr 2400..reason.. I have 10 lbs of it  :) ) and...for those that haven't learned better yet, ::) theres ....h110 or 296, pick yer poisen. I've loaded as high as 25gr with above bullet and they were just nasty out of my Ruger 4in RH.  :o  not much better from the BBH, and will certainly make you aware of the cresent metal buttstock on the Puma '92. I keep 50 of these loaded, (not sure why) but I am sure those 50 will last a looooong time.  ;D

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Re: Trail/Hiking gun
« Reply #66 on: December 29, 2011, 08:04:49 AM »
a little off topic (but not much). As I hike with a .357, I would love to get a neat little Marlin or Winchester short barrel lever action in .357 as it's companion.
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Re: Trail/Hiking gun
« Reply #67 on: December 29, 2011, 10:07:14 AM »
a little off topic (but not much). As I hike with a .357, I would love to get a neat little Marlin or Winchester short barrel lever action in .357 as it's companion.

My Wife has a Puma (the LSI ones) in 357 w/20in barrel and it is a shootin little devil. I've seen good and bad reviews on these little guns, mostly good. But no problems with this one for sure.  The 357 doesn't seem to care what you put through it either, just works. And it is VERY accurate.

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Re: Trail/Hiking gun
« Reply #68 on: January 02, 2012, 01:04:10 AM »
The new Ruger 4.2" SP-101 in .357 also makes an excelent trail gun when your worried about bigger critters.

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Re: Trail/Hiking gun
« Reply #69 on: January 03, 2012, 01:49:21 AM »
My original thought was--to clarify--no matter what you shoot, what you carry should be adequate for the largest.
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Re: Trail/Hiking gun
« Reply #70 on: January 03, 2012, 04:10:07 AM »
wl, I'm picking up what you're laying down. Went hiking in the swamp last weekend, only thing scary in there would be a sonambulist bear or people as its too cold for the gators and snakes to be active. We dressed appropriately, however the sign on the trail said no guns ... Somehow I don't think that'd stop the type of persons I'd be concerned about.
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Re: Trail/Hiking gun
« Reply #71 on: January 03, 2012, 04:30:00 PM »
wl, I'm picking up what you're laying down. Went hiking in the swamp last weekend, only thing scary in there would be a sonambulist bear or people as its too cold for the gators and snakes to be active. We dressed appropriately, however the sign on the trail said no guns ... Somehow I don't think that'd stop the type of persons I'd be concerned about.
We also have "No Firearms" trails.  Nothing like advertising to the gremlins that they don't have to worry about anybody defending themselves!  Of course the signs keep the bad guys from carrying since they are really good sign-obeying folks :)   I have a S&W 622 (.22 LR) or a Charter Arms Undercover .38.

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Re: Trail/Hiking gun
« Reply #72 on: January 04, 2012, 05:55:28 PM »
painted horse. Thanks for the info. I enjoy packing my 45 Colt as well. I also have an old S&W 45 Auto Rim that runs 250 grain cast loads about like a standard 45 Colt. Both are great guns to pack. 

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Re: Trail/Hiking gun
« Reply #73 on: January 05, 2012, 02:57:28 PM »
wl, I'm picking up what you're laying down. Went hiking in the swamp last weekend, only thing scary in there would be a sonambulist bear or people as its too cold for the gators and snakes to be active. We dressed appropriately, however the sign on the trail said no guns ... Somehow I don't think that'd stop the type of persons I'd be concerned about.

Reminds me of a saying... "Rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6"... Foolish, I dunno maybe but might be better to be called a fool than deseased... Just sayin'  :o ::) ;)
 
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Re: Trail/Hiking gun
« Reply #74 on: January 07, 2012, 04:16:58 AM »
many trails  i hike are posted no firearms


so  my  ruger LCR in 357mag
before that it was a 640 smith 357mag


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Re: Trail/Hiking gun
« Reply #75 on: January 07, 2012, 05:15:40 AM »
Reminds me of a saying... "Rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6"...
 
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I had forgotten that old saying over the years until you mentioned it again here.
I always thought those were sound words.
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Re: Trail/Hiking gun
« Reply #76 on: January 07, 2012, 09:51:44 PM »
Now boys, I am not an anarchist or a BG but the Lord gives a mind and when you read a sign that says no guns allowed you just know that you have the right to ignore---carry on--just don't worry about it or advertise it.
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Re: Trail/Hiking gun
« Reply #77 on: January 08, 2012, 12:31:48 AM »
Well, a sign that says "No Guns" or " No Firearms" is not properly labled for concealed carry is it???

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Re: Trail/Hiking gun
« Reply #78 on: January 08, 2012, 01:59:25 AM »
  I think most of us agree that no guns showing is acceptable compliance to a no guns allowed sign.

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Re: Trail/Hiking gun
« Reply #79 on: January 08, 2012, 06:00:58 AM »
  I think most of us agree that no guns showing is acceptable compliance to a no guns allowed sign.
Sounds like a wise decision to me...

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« Reply #80 on: January 08, 2012, 03:17:41 PM »
  I think most of us agree that no guns showing is acceptable compliance to a no guns allowed sign.
Sounds like a wise decision to me...
Seems reasonable to me, too.  I wonder what the local justice court judge might say.

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Re: Trail/Hiking gun
« Reply #81 on: January 09, 2012, 04:53:47 AM »
i just always assumed  that rules were for other people



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Re: Trail/Hiking gun
« Reply #82 on: January 09, 2012, 06:38:34 AM »
Now boys, I am not an anarchist or a BG but the Lord gives a mind and when you read a sign that says no guns allowed you just know that you have the right to ignore---carry on--just don't worry about it or advertise it.
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Re: Trail/Hiking gun
« Reply #83 on: January 09, 2012, 10:24:05 AM »
I guess the wife didn't take that revolver out of my pocket when she washed um , not my fault its in my pocket now ............... ;D
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Re: Trail/Hiking gun
« Reply #84 on: January 14, 2012, 03:15:07 PM »
I have to say that I was encouraged by the number of votes for the 22mag, it is an excellent gun, My main concern with it is the sharpness of the muzzle blast really bothers me. I would probably wind up carrying a Ruger SP101, in fact my carry gun. I cannot afford or justify that many handguns, and it was the best for all the things I may need it to do. I really wanted one of the 8 shot stainless 327 Ruger Blackhawks, and still may trade for one if I run across one. I would probably use 32 H&R's in it. or even 32 S&W long. Here in Missouri, the odds of anything serious running into you are remote, Big cats are rare, coyotes are common but stay well out of your way, snakes are ubiquitous but could most likely be dispatched better with a good walking stick (which is very underrated and also indispensable) than a gun. Armadillo's are a real pest these days, as are pocket gophers, and feral house cats. I can see where if I lived close to the border I might be concerned about 2 legged dangers, but just about anywhere else they are way overblown. I might also take my TC Contender in 32/20, if I actually was sort of hunting as I went, and expected to see something. It is very accurate out to 50 yards or more even with iron sights..
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Re: Trail/Hiking gun
« Reply #85 on: January 14, 2012, 03:28:18 PM »
TWOSHOOTER

The 357 I hike with is not for protection from critters.  It's a crazy world out there nowadays.

Virginia -

An authentic thru-hiker met a hiker who claimed to also be thru-hiking.  The two hiked together for two days and decided to share a room at hotel near the trailhead in Daleville, VA.  The thru-hiker paid the bill as the other said he would get cash in the morning to pay his share.  However, as the thru-hiker showered the impostor stole a wallet, with credit card, debit card and $80 cash, then disappeared

Colorado -

Hikers, A brother and sister from California were robbed at gunpoint Wednesday afternoon while hiking in Garden of the Gods park, one of the most popular tourist destinations in the state, Colorado Springs police said. The robbers fled in a white van after taking a wallet, handbag and camera, according to police. The camera was later found by another hiker in the park.  This happened during the week of Oct. 11, was reported to the local police and ATC Headquarters in Harpers Ferry.  Apparently something similar had happened near Waynesboro, VA.

Maine -
Carrabassett Valley Police Chief Scott Nichols is warning both out-of-state instate hikers to be more cautious while traveling by foot on the Appalachian Trail and other trails in the area.  Over the past week, in two different incidents on the Carriage Road, hikers have been the victims of theft, with a total value of over $950.

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A hiker rescue near Highland Park took a bizarre turn Wednesday morning when firefighters discovered the man had reportedly been robbed and tied up. The hiker was spotted at the bottom of a canyon in Ernest E. Debs Regional Park shortly after 9 a.m. It was not immediately known who called for help. Los Angeles City Fire Department officials at the scene reported the man had been robbed and left at the park.
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