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Conservative Judges support Obamacare.....
« on: November 08, 2011, 06:21:58 AM »
It's hammer and sickle time fellas!!!!
 
Appeals court upholds Obama health care law
 
A conservative-leaning panel of federal appellate judges on Tuesday upheld  President Barack Obama's health care law as constitutional, helping set up a  Supreme Court fight.
A panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia issued a  split opinion upholding the law. The court agreed to dismiss a Christian legal  group's lawsuit claiming the requirement that all Americans get health insurance  is unconstitutional and violates religious freedom.
The requirement has been the subject of several lawsuits, with some judges  across the country ruling it unconstitutional and others upholding the law. That  means the Supreme Court is sure to decide the fate of Obama's signature law. The  high court is expected to decide soon, perhaps within days, whether to accept  appeals from some of those earlier rulings.
The suit in Washington was brought by the American Center for Law and  Justice, a legal group founded by evangelist Pat Robertson. It claimed that the  insurance mandate violates the religious freedom of those who choose not to have  insurance because they rely on God to protect them from harm. But the court  ruled that although the requirement is an encroachment on individual liberty,  Congress had the power to pass it to ensure that all Americans can have health  care coverage.
"The right to be free from federal regulation is not absolute and yields to  the imperative that Congress be free to forge national solutions to national  problems," Judge Laurence Silberman, an appointee of President Ronald Reagan,  wrote in the 2-1 opinion. Silberman was joined by Judge Harry Edwards, a Carter  appointee.
Judge Brett Kavanaugh, a former top aide to President George W. Bush who  appointed him to the bench, disagreed with the conclusion without taking a  position on the merits of the law. He wrote a lengthy opinion arguing the court  doesn't have jurisdiction to review the health care mandate until after it takes  effect in 2014.


Read more at the Washington Examiner:  http://washingtonexaminer.com/news/nation/2011/11/appeals-court-upholds-obama-health-care-law#ixzz1d8eIYfYG
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Re: Conservative Judges support Obamacare.....
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2011, 06:56:41 AM »
I think it was just a matter of ruling against a religious lawsuit.
religion has no bearing on obama care.
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Re: Conservative Judges support Obamacare.....
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2011, 11:44:08 AM »
Every judge that has touched this is now a rich man.

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Re: Conservative Judges support Obamacare.....
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2011, 04:51:45 PM »
Very distorted subject line, Crusty.  The ruling wasn't supporting it, it denied a very specific challenge to it. A little bit of a difference.
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Re: Conservative Judges support Obamacare.....
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2011, 01:06:58 AM »
A panel of judge's reasearch's a ''split decision''. Sounds like to me, that judge's, who are paid to know the law, and studied the law, don't know the law. Typical. Bunch of lawyers discussing the definition of ''is". gypsyman
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Re: Conservative Judges support Obamacare.....
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2011, 02:37:42 AM »
Seems like a huge contradiction. Conservative judge supports Liberal law.
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Re: Conservative Judges support Obamacare.....
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2011, 03:22:06 AM »
Seems like a huge contradiction. Conservative judge supports Liberal law.

Not at all, once you strip the ideological tags off.  In cases like this judges are supposed to measure the law against the Constitution.   Look at the Kentucky v. King decision, which greatly expanded police powers, the lone dissent was Ginsberg, and she seems to be the only one who got it right.  http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/10pdf/09-1272.pdf

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Re: Conservative Judges support Obamacare.....
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2011, 03:43:21 AM »
Very distorted subject line, Crusty.  The ruling wasn't supporting it, it denied a very specific challenge to it. A little bit of a difference.

Sorry Joe, just trying to fit in. Hyperbole and exaggeration seem to be the norm here  8)
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