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HUNTSMAN ON SB2 FRAME
« on: November 10, 2011, 11:11:27 AM »
CAN YOU USE A HUNTSMAN 45 CAL ON A SB2 FRAME?
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Re: HUNTSMAN ON SB2 FRAME
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2011, 02:08:34 PM »
The only problem I could see would be ignition issues form the smaller firing pin of the SB2...
 
I don't see any safety issues, try it at the range and see... How does it fit?
 
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Re: HUNTSMAN ON SB2 FRAME
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2011, 05:00:08 PM »
I don't believe that it would fit properly.  I'll give it a try tomorrow, and let you know.
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Re: HUNTSMAN ON SB2 FRAME
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2011, 10:33:10 PM »
Quote from: OldSchoolRanger on November 10, 2011, 05:00:08 PM
I don't believe that it would fit properly.  I'll give it a try tomorrow, and let you know.

It "should" the Huntsman was made on a STD frame before the feds caught up with in-line muzzle loader manufacturers skirting the 4473 form.. Then they brought out the SIDEKICK. Which is on a shortened frame that will no longer accept STD barrels...
 
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Re: HUNTSMAN ON SB2 FRAME
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2011, 10:41:47 PM »
IIRC, the 45 cal huntsman is of pre-1987 manufacture so originally was on the old cast frame.  The only pre-87 H&R barrel I ever tried to fit to a modern frame wasn't even close.
 
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Re: HUNTSMAN ON SB2 FRAME
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2011, 11:02:30 PM »
Quote from: OldSchoolRanger on November 10, 2011, 05:00:08 PM
I don't believe that it would fit properly.  I'll give it a try tomorrow, and let you know.


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Re: HUNTSMAN ON SB2 FRAME
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2011, 11:09:18 PM »
Quote from: bikerbeans on November 10, 2011, 10:41:47 PM
IIRC, the 45 cal huntsman is of pre-1987 manufacture so originally was on the old cast frame.  The only pre-87 H&R barrel I ever tried to fit to a modern frame wasn't even close.
 
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Good point BB, the 45 cals where older models...
 
I was speaking more to the safety issues than physical size... Its still possible as my own 357 Maxi is in that era (1985) and fits modern frames just fine. A couple others I have form then do not... maybe could be made to fit tho...
 
Let us know OSR..
 
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Re: HUNTSMAN ON SB2 FRAME
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2011, 07:06:24 AM »
I tried the 45Cal Huntsman barrel on a modern SB2 frame (which came in 223).  It easily fit, a little too easily, what I would term a sloppy fit.  There was no vertical play, but it was loose, and wiggled when you tried moving the barrel side to side.

I tried putting the 223 barrel on the 45Cal Huntsman frame, no luck.  The modern barrel lug was too wide.  I also tried a modern shotgun barrel on the Huntsman frame, and had the same results.  I guess if you had the inclination to do so, you could probably "fit" a modern shotgun barrel into the 70's Huntsman frame, by filing the lug down. 

I also made a comparison of the lug size, and found the lug length to be the same, but the lug width is I guess about a 1/16" too wide.  I misplaced my caliper, so I had to eyeball it.

1st photo is the "Frankengun" assembled.
2nd photo is a comparison of the lug length, bottom view.
3rd photo is a comparison of the lug width, side view. (with help from the wife, holding barrels)
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Re: HUNTSMAN ON SB2 FRAME
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2011, 07:14:02 AM »
Quote from: cwlongshot on November 10, 2011, 02:08:34 PM
The only problem I could see would be ignition issues form the smaller firing pin of the SB2...
 
I don't see any safety issues, try it at the range and see... How does it fit?
 
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Re: HUNTSMAN ON SB2 FRAME
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2011, 07:16:20 AM »
Quote from: OldSchoolRanger on November 11, 2011, 07:06:24 AM
I tried the 45Cal Huntsman barrel on a modern SB2 frame (which came in 223).  It easily fit, a little too easily, what I would term a sloppy fit.  There was no vertical play, but it was loose, and wiggled when you tried moving the barrel side to side.

I tried putting the 223 barrel on the 45Cal Huntsman frame, no luck.  The modern barrel lug was too wide.  I also tried a modern shotgun barrel on the Huntsman frame, and had the same results.  I guess if you had the inclination to do so, you could probably "fit" a modern shotgun barrel into the 70's Huntsman frame, by filing the lug down. 

I also made a comparison of the lug size, and found the lug length to be the same, but the lug width is I guess about a 1/16" too wide.  I misplaced my caliper, so I had to eyeball it.

1st photo is the "Frankengun" assembled.
2nd photo is a comparison of the lug length, bottom view.
3rd photo is a comparison of the lug width, side view. (with help from the wife, holding barrels)


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Re: HUNTSMAN ON SB2 FRAME
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2011, 08:44:09 AM »
My 50 cal Huntsman is fitted to one of my SB2 frames. Works well, just need a fore-end now.
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Re: HUNTSMAN ON SB2 FRAME
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2011, 05:47:41 AM »
The 45 cal is a vintage barrel made by H&R Inc, different than a modern 50 cal.

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Re: HUNTSMAN ON SB2 FRAME
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2011, 10:15:18 AM »
So should a 50 cal fit on a SB2 frame?
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Re: HUNTSMAN ON SB2 FRAME
« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2011, 10:23:17 AM »
Yes, I think most, if not all 50 cals are modern Huntsman barrels and will work on an SB1 or SB2 frame.

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MUZZLELOADER BARREL ON SB2 FRAME
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2011, 12:20:09 PM »
WILL ANY OF THE MUZZLELOADER  BARRELS FIT ON A SB2 FRAME, THANKS IN ADVANCE
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Re: HUNTSMAN ON SB2 FRAME
« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2011, 05:11:47 PM »
I believe quickdtoo answered your question.  The answer is yes, a .50Cal Huntsman barrel will fit on your SB2 frame. 

The only exception is the Sidekick .50 Cal barrel, it was built for a shorter frame to get around the Fed form 4473 requirement.
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Re: HUNTSMAN ON SB2 FRAME
« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2011, 10:24:48 AM »
I got another slant to this... I have sb1 &2, currently my huntsman is on sb2. If I switch to sb1, I'm thinking no change in point of impact? I mean the barrel is it's own separate deal, with breech plug, not like a centerfire, where cartridge rests on breech / pin? Correct? Has anyone moved their huntsman like this, and experienced accuracy problems... Huntsman fits easily on both frames!
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Re: HUNTSMAN ON SB2 FRAME
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2011, 10:38:32 AM »
I've switched a .50 from my SB2 frame over to my grandson's youth setup (also a SB2 frame) without issue.
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Re: HUNTSMAN ON SB2 FRAME
« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2011, 06:11:31 PM »
I agree with Brewster, there should be no problems at all.  But at this point I have dedicated frames for my Huntsman barrels.
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