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Offline jimbobb55

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Fire forming brass
« on: November 12, 2011, 10:41:12 AM »
I heard that you can make 35 whelen out of 30-06 brass, how do you do this and why would do it.(fire 30-06 in a 35 whelen gun?) Don't sound right.

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Re: Fire forming brass
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2011, 10:46:09 AM »
That is all I use in mine, 30-06 brass is easy to find you just want to size neck so it doesn't push shoulder back to far load it up normal there is no need to use a reduced load to fireform
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Re: Fire forming brass
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2011, 10:49:12 AM »
I place a .025 thousandth washer on top of shellholder when I adjust sizer die so it only expands neck,just make sure to lube brass well
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Re: Fire forming brass
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2011, 11:25:58 AM »
Do you fire the 30-06 ammo through the 35 whelen rifle then size and reload it to 35 whelen?

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Re: Fire forming brass
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2011, 11:32:26 AM »
I know that some folks have fired the 30-06 ammo in a 35 Whelen rifle, but I would advise against it. It's just too risky, IMO. I would run the 30-06 brass through a .35 Whelen sizing die and forget about fire-forming.


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Re: Fire forming brass
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2011, 12:52:10 PM »
As long as your using 30-06 brass, just run it thru the 35 whelen die and load it. There is no fire-forming required.
 
BUT there are some calibers that do require fire-forming. 7-30 waters form 30-30 comes to mind. Same story for the 30 and 357 Herrett calibers. Only those also require excessive trimming...

Some require annealing, like 256 Win from 357 Mag.
 
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Re: Fire forming brass
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2011, 02:33:39 PM »
I just run 06 brass through whelen die
handi rifles- 22 mag      22 hornet    223      7mm-08      308 chip shot     30-30 x2     30-06 shorty      358 cheez whiz     357 max     35 remington     375-08    410 rifled slug     454 casull     460 s&w     45 smokeless muzzleloader x2     45-70    50 huntsman    50-70 government shikari     20 ga.ush     12 ga.ush    12 ga.3 1/2     10 ga.imp.cyl. slug gun