Author Topic: caliber list ? (Read 1087 times)

otterbob · « **on:** November 13, 2011, 04:22:17 AM »

Does Anyone have, or can point to, a list of calibers that have been produced in either the H&R, NEF, topper, or handi configurations, and or accessory barrels ?

I would also like to know wildcat calibers or reamer rechamberings you have knowledge of.

If no list exists maybe we can cut and paste a list here.

Otter Bob

Jimbo47 · « **Reply #1 on:** November 13, 2011, 04:53:43 AM »

Welcome to the forum!

Here is the best information you will find anywhere concerning Handi Rifles!

It's all at the top of the page!

http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,26264.0.html

quickdtoo · « **Reply #2 on:** November 13, 2011, 05:43:12 AM »

You can see the current chamberings on H&R's website, most are listed on the accessory barrel page. Some of the discontinued chamberings are 22 Rem Jet, 7.62x39, 7x57, 7x64, 357 Maxi, 38-55, 450 Marlin. The 7.62x39 may still be available as an accessory barrel even tho it's not on the website, 35 Rem and 35 Whelen should also be available. http://www.hr1871.com/Support/accessoryProgram.asp

Use the search option, it will help answer lots of your questions, the advanced search is the most useful, select just this forum from the list to expedite the search. http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php?action=search;advanced

The link below is a previous discussion on custom chamberings.

Tim

http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,239059.msg1099360436.html#msg1099360436

otterbob · « **Reply #3 on:** November 13, 2011, 06:25:28 AM »

Yea, I have read that information but did not find a list of chamberings offered.
I did find the “rates of twist” list. I can not be for sure the calibers on that list were offered in production or as rechamberings, and two calibers were lined out on the list (were those two calibers not offered ?). as for the “rates of twist” list it seems most on the list are still offered, but what I am interested in is actual known calibers that are or were produced.
I have included a list that I have been working on below, please feel free to edit and repost the list to this thread.

We know that H&R 1871 LLC currently offers on their website (centerfire) :

204 Ruger
22 Hornet
223 Rem
22-250
243 Win
25-06
270 Win
280 Rem
7mm-08 Rem
30-30
30-06
308 Win
357 Mag
35-06 Remington
44 Mag
45-70
444 Marlin
500 S&W

Chamberings said to have been offered (centerfire) :

22 Jet
7x57
7x64
~~7mm Rem Mag~~
7.62x39
~~300 Win Mag~~
357 Max
35 Remington = confirmed
35 Whelen = confirmed
38/55 = confirmed
45 Colt = confirmed

Reamed Chamberings :

357 Max = confirmed

Otter Bob
PS: Sorry about the bold something was hung-up and would not clear.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #4 on:** November 13, 2011, 06:31:31 AM »

The 7mm Rem mag and 300 Win mag were never produced, they were advertised to test market acceptance, but there weren't enough distributor pre-orders to warrant testing of the required new Handi-mag frame, so it was dumped right off the drawing board.

Tim

otterbob · « **Reply #5 on:** November 13, 2011, 06:53:59 AM »

Updated list :

Currently produced by H&R LLC according to their website :

204 Ruger
22 Hornet
223 Rem
22-250
243 Win
25-06
270 Win
280 Rem
7mm-08
30-30
30-06
308 Win
357 Mag
35-06 Rem
44 Mag
45-70
444 Marlin
500 S&W

Chamberings said to have been produced :

22 Jet= confirmed
7x57 = confirmed
7x64 = confirmed
7mm Rem Mag = not produced
7.62x39 = confirmed
300 Win Mag = not produced
357 Max = confirmed
35 Rem = confirmed
35 Whelen = confirmed
38/55 = confirmed
45 Colt = confirmed
450 Marlin = confirmed

Reamed Chamberings

357 Max = confirmed

Otter Bob

quickdtoo · « **Reply #6 on:** November 13, 2011, 07:02:39 AM »

Here's my current list of H&R Rifles including the rechambers/rebores with parent chambering info.

Tim

17HMR
17M2
22Lr
22 Mag
204 Ruger
22 Hornet
221 Fireball(22 Hornet rechamber)
223 Rem
22-250 fluted Ultra
243 Win Ultra
243 Win Superlight
6MM Ackley(243 rechamber)
25-06
6.5x55(Stubbed(see FAQs) sold to Dinny!)
260 Rem(243 rebored)
270 Win UC
270 Win Ackley(by hand)
7x57
7x64
7mm-08 22"
7mm-08 20" Light
280 Improved
30-30 (M158 on SB2)
30-30 Ackley(by hand)
308 Win bull barrel
30-06 Ultra Comp
30-06 SS
30-06 (Rossi Wizard barrel)
357 Maxi
35 Whelen RMEF
35 Whelen Improved
35 Rem(rechambered Mag/Maxi)
38-55 Target
38-55 18" Shorty
405 Win Octagon 23½"(38-55 rebored)
445 Supermag(44mag by hand)
444 22"
444 Octagon(44mag by hand)
45 Colt Carbine
460 S&W(45Colt by hand)
45-70 SS Ultra
45-70 Handi x3
45-70 BC x2
45-120(45-70 can be done by hand)
500 S&W

quasne.inc · « **Reply #7 on:** November 13, 2011, 08:08:00 AM »

Is the .35-06 rem a new cartridge or a wildcat?

Jimbo47 · « **Reply #8 on:** November 13, 2011, 08:42:38 AM »

Quote from: quickdtoo on November 13, 2011, 07:02:39 AM

Here's my current list of H&R Rifles including the rechambers/rebores with parent chambering info.

Tim

17HMR
17M2
22Lr
22 Mag
204 Ruger
22 Hornet
221 Fireball(22 Hornet rechamber)
223 Rem
22-250 fluted Ultra
243 Win Ultra
243 Win Superlight
6MM Ackley(243 rechamber)
25-06
6.5x55(Stubbed(see FAQs) sold to Dinny!)
260 Rem(243 rebored)
270 Win UC
270 Win Ackley(by hand)
7x57
7x64
7mm-08 22"
7mm-08 20" Light
280 Improved
30-30 (M158 on SB2)
30-30 Ackley(by hand)
308 Win bull barrel
30-06 Ultra Comp
30-06 SS
30-06 (Rossi Wizard barrel)
357 Maxi
35 Whelen RMEF
35 Whelen Improved
35 Rem(rechambered Mag/Maxi)
38-55 Target
38-55 18" Shorty
405 Win Octagon 23½"(38-55 rebored)
445 Supermag(44mag by hand)
444 22"
444 Octagon(44mag by hand)
45 Colt Carbine
460 S&W(45Colt by hand)
45-70 SS Ultra
45-70 Handi x3
45-70 BC x2
45-120(45-70 can be done by hand)
500 S&W

What?....No .454 Casull?

Winter Hawk · « **Reply #9 on:** November 13, 2011, 09:35:58 AM »

.35-06 is the .35 Whelen. It was a wildcat developed by Colonel Whelen by necking up the .30-06 to .35 caliber. It was around for many years before Remington started selling it commercially. A friend in Alaska carried one until it was stolen from his office in 1967. The good old days - his office was in the Duckering Building on the UA campus....

-WH-

quickdtoo · « **Reply #10 on:** November 13, 2011, 09:38:32 AM »

Quote from: Jimbo47 on November 13, 2011, 08:42:38 AM

What?....No .454 Casull?

I have a 460S&W which is like having a 357Maxi that the shorter rounds can be used in.

Tim

mtbugle · « **Reply #11 on:** November 13, 2011, 09:40:27 AM »

I thought trotterlg did some 17 fireballs? If not I have a barrel to start that trend ready and waiting for a chambering.

Jimbo47 · « **Reply #12 on:** November 13, 2011, 09:45:39 AM »

Quote from: quickdtoo on November 13, 2011, 09:38:32 AM

Quote from: Jimbo47 on November 13, 2011, 08:42:38 AM

What?....No .454 Casull?

I have a 460S&W which is like having a 357Maxi that the shorter rounds can be used in.

Tim

Opps!....Didn't realize you were talking about your personal collection!

otterbob · « **Reply #13 on:** November 13, 2011, 09:48:02 AM »

Quote from: quasne.inc on November 13, 2011, 08:08:00 AM

Is the .35-06 rem a new cartridge or a wildcat?

35-06 Rem Handi Grip Handi-Rifle (SB2-2TG)

The 35-06 rem is a commercial caliber however as stated in another post it is also the 35 Whelen.

I could not find any case drawings of the two to post, but I am sure there are others here that would have that information.

Otter Bob

quickdtoo · « **Reply #14 on:** November 13, 2011, 10:08:19 AM »

The 35-06 is an old typo, the actual model number for the 35 Whelen Handi-grip is SB2-3T5.

Tim

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/64277

Quote from: quickdtoo on February 18, 2010, 01:51:14 PM

Quote from: wreckhog on February 18, 2010, 01:22:20 PM
see that H&R is now chambering a wildcat in the Handi Grip.

35-06 Remington (SB2-2TG)

Just another one of H&R's many typos, they must have the same webmaster/editor that Gardner had!!

Tim

otterbob · « **Reply #15 on:** November 13, 2011, 10:23:08 AM »

Updated to include calibers found on “Quickdtoo” list and other posts

Currently produced by H&R LLC according to their website :

204 Ruger
22 Hornet
223 Rem
22-250
243 Win
25-06
270 Win
280 Rem
7mm-08
30-30
30-06
308 Win
357 Mag
35-06 Rem
44 Mag
45-70
444 Marlin
500 S&W

Chamberings said to have been produced :

22 Jet= confirmed
7x57 = confirmed
7x64 = confirmed
7mm Rem Mag = not produced
7.62x39 = confirmed
300 Win Mag = not produced
357 Max = confirmed
35 Rem = confirmed
35 Whelen = confirmed
38/55 = confirmed
45 Colt = confirmed
450 Marlin = confirmed

Reamed or re-Chamberings

17 fireball = unconfirmed
221 Fireball = (22 Hornet rechamber)
6MM Ackley = (243 rechamber)
6.5x55 = (Stubbed(see FAQs) sold to Dinny!)
260 Rem = (243 rebored)
270 Win = Ackley(by hand)
280 Improved = (by hand)?
30-30 Ackley = (by hand)
35 Whelen Improved = (by hand)?
357 Max = (by hand)
405 Win = (38-55 rebored)
445 Supermag = (44mag by hand)
460 S&W = (45Colt by hand)
45-90 = unconfirmed
45-110 = unconfirmed
45-120 = (45-70 can be done by hand)
.454 Casull = unconfirmed

Otter Bob

otterbob · « **Reply #16 on:** November 13, 2011, 10:34:52 AM »

Quote from: quickdtoo on November 13, 2011, 10:08:19 AM

The 35-06 is an old typo, the actual model number for the 35 Whelen Handi-grip is SB2-3T5.

Tim

Could be , I was just quoting their current website for the 35-06 listed

http://www.hr1871.com/Firearms/Rifles/handiRifle.asp

I did not see a current listing for the 35 Whelen

Otter Bob

quickdtoo · « **Reply #17 on:** November 13, 2011, 10:50:53 AM »

Over the years there have been many errors on their website, that's just one of many, you won't find the 35 Rem either, but it and the 35 Whelen are both in current production, they only sell them regionally tho, the 35 Rem has been offered in a combo with the 444 Marlin also, another model that you won't find on the website.

On my rechambers, I only listed the "by hand" note for those I've personally done myself, if it isn't marked, they were done by a gunsmith on a lathe. The 45-90/100/110 and 454 Casull should be marked confirmed, they've all been done by hand, the Casull reamer is one of the GBO reamers I loan out, see the reamer sticky.

Tim

otterbob · « **Reply #18 on:** November 13, 2011, 11:37:16 AM »

Currently produced by H&R LLC according to their website :

204 Ruger
22 Hornet
223 Rem
22-250
243 Win
25-06
270 Win
280 Rem
7mm-08
30-30
30-06
308 Win
357 Mag
35-06 Rem
44 Mag
45-70
444 Marlin
500 S&W

Chamberings said to have been produced :

22 Jet= confirmed
7x57 = confirmed
7x64 = confirmed
7mm Rem Mag = not produced
7.62x39 = confirmed
300 Win Mag = not produced
357 Max = confirmed
35 Rem = confirmed
35 Whelen = confirmed
38/55 = confirmed
45 Colt = confirmed
450 Marlin = confirmed

Reamed or re-Chamberings

17 fireball = unconfirmed
221 Fireball = (22 Hornet rechamber)
6MM Ackley = (243 rechamber)
6.5x55 = (Stubbed(see FAQs) sold to Dinny!)
260 Rem = (243 rebored)
270 Win Ackley = confirmed by hand
280 Improved = confirmed by hand
30-30 Ackley = confirmed by hand
35 Whelen Improved = confirmed by hand
357 Max = confirmed by hand
405 Win = (38-55 rebored)
445 Supermag = confirmed by hand
460 S&W = confirmed by hand
45-90 = confirmed by hand
45-100 = confirmed by hand
45-110 = confirmed by hand
45-120 = confirmed by hand
454 Casull = confirmed by hand

Otter Bob

quasne.inc · « **Reply #19 on:** November 13, 2011, 01:44:28 PM »

Thanks. Didnt know the .35 whelen was also called the .35-06.

PHATINJUN · « **Reply #20 on:** November 14, 2011, 06:31:13 AM »

Many stubbs out there also. Kurt