Author Topic: Is he stupid, or just lying ? (Read 1568 times)

ironglow · « **on:** November 18, 2011, 05:33:00 AM »

Obama says he's "zeroing in like a laser on job creation".. but he turns them back by the hundreds of thousands...

http://politicons.net/obama-kills-another-1-million-jobs-with-delay-of-keystone-pipeline-canada-balks-on-oil-deal/

http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/obama-usda-delays-shale-drilling-200k-jobs

If these OWS people want jobs..they better start protesting Obama, wherever he is..

powderman · « **Reply #1 on:** November 18, 2011, 06:35:42 AM »

I believe obama said we don't want the oil either, china said, we'll take it. Just part of obummers plan to destroy us. POWDERMAN.

blind ear · « **Reply #2 on:** November 18, 2011, 06:59:18 AM »

May be waiting until closer to election to try an spin himself into being a savior. ear

SwampThing762 · « **Reply #3 on:** November 18, 2011, 07:40:28 AM »

Quote from: blind ear on November 18, 2011, 06:59:18 AM

May be waiting until closer to election to try an spin himself into being a savior. ear

Ear,

I believe you are correct in your perception. Why make jobs now, when you can kill any job bill now, wait till campaign season, and then magically create jobs to increase re-election chances?

It is Ocrapper's ace-in-the-hole.

ST762

mdwest · « **Reply #4 on:** November 18, 2011, 08:36:41 AM »

dont ever make the mistake of thinking he is stupid..

he is a lot of things..

stupid isnt one of them though...

ironglow · « **Reply #5 on:** November 18, 2011, 08:52:03 AM »

Quote from: mdwest on November 18, 2011, 08:36:41 AM

dont ever make the mistake of thinking he is stupid..

he is a lot of things..

stupid isnt one of them though...

You're right...so it must be the other choice..

mcwoodduck · « **Reply #6 on:** November 18, 2011, 09:40:06 AM »

I am sure he knows what he is doing.
He is purposly trying to get the mob mad to have mob rule and fufill his dreams of his father and make us a police state (communist)

powderman · « **Reply #7 on:** November 18, 2011, 10:39:13 AM »

Stupid he is not. He knows exactly what he is doing. All part of imam obamas plan to destroy us. POWDERMAN.

magooch · « **Reply #8 on:** November 19, 2011, 04:09:24 AM »

Stupid is as stupid does and Obama does stupid stuff.

powderman · « **Reply #9 on:** November 19, 2011, 06:04:04 AM »

Quote from: magooch on November 19, 2011, 04:09:24 AM

Stupid is as stupid does and Obama does stupid stuff.

To Americans yes, but he does it with a planned purpose. POWDERMAN.

lakota · « **Reply #10 on:** November 19, 2011, 07:01:00 AM »

I look at him and I dont see a very smart man-just take his teleprompter away for proof of that. Its the man who is pulling his strings that frightens me

us920669 · « **Reply #11 on:** November 19, 2011, 07:33:15 AM »

I've noticed a pattern where every August the clown goes to Martha's Vineyard for a software upgrade I guess, since he always comes back with a different act. That will probably happen again for 2012.

I just read somewhere that he is bragging about selling some Boeing airplanes to various Asian nations. So he busts Boeing's chops because they want to open a competitive factory, but then places some product with other governments. I wonder how much that will cost us under the table.

ironglow · « **Reply #12 on:** November 20, 2011, 02:35:41 AM »

Do we agree then..not really stupid, so he must be simply lying.
...However, I still don't believe he is near so intelligent as some give him credit for..

magooch · « **Reply #13 on:** November 20, 2011, 04:37:33 AM »

He's a dumycrat; that means he is stupid. In fact, it is a requirement. You can be stupid and nefarious at the same time--he's living proof.

mcwoodduck · « **Reply #14 on:** December 11, 2011, 05:20:16 PM »

Quote from: magooch on November 20, 2011, 04:37:33 AM

He's a dumycrat; that means he is stupid. In fact, it is a requirement. You can be stupid and nefarious at the same time--he's living proof.

Either he is a smart man who has a plan to destroy the country using class warfare and Man made global warming.
Or he is a complete moron that is actually trying to fix things and failing miserably.
What has me, is why most Union members are following the Union leadership and following him. His plan stops manufacturing, stops construction, stops mining and increases fuel costs for shipping items. All Union jobs.

powderman · « **Reply #15 on:** December 11, 2011, 05:26:47 PM »

MCWOODUCK. Imam obamas plan is simple, help his muslim brothers destroy America. His goal is to hurt, not help, and he has plenty of supporters. POWDERMAN.

Bugflipper · « **Reply #16 on:** December 11, 2011, 05:56:22 PM »

Well he is a Lawyer and a Politician, so,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Sorry AtlLaw, nothing personal.

Junior1942 · « **Reply #17 on:** December 12, 2011, 03:29:33 AM »

He's not stupid and he's not lying. He's just trying to stop this country's slide into Facism.

kevinsmith5 · « **Reply #18 on:** December 12, 2011, 03:40:03 AM »

Do you know what that word even means? I keep hearing people use it in ways that lead me to believe the people using is have no idea what it actually means. So real quick, define "Fascism".

magooch · « **Reply #19 on:** December 12, 2011, 05:08:38 AM »

Fascism is what liberals think happens when they no longer control both houses of Congress, the Presidency and the Supreme Court and all the
bureaucracies and agencies of government. Hopefully, we'll get some of that real soon.

nw_hunter · « **Reply #20 on:** December 12, 2011, 05:15:08 AM »

Quote from: kevinsmith5 on December 12, 2011, 03:40:03 AM

Do you know what that word even means? I keep hearing people use it in ways that lead me to believe the people using is have no idea what it actually means. So real quick, define "Fascism".

What it leads you to believe really doesn't matter! This thread is about Obama being stupid or lying.
If you need the definition of Fascism look it up yourself.(REAL QUICK) Stay on topic !

mcwoodduck · « **Reply #21 on:** December 12, 2011, 09:50:48 AM »

Quote from: Junior1942 on December 12, 2011, 03:29:33 AM

He's not stupid and he's not lying. He's just trying to stop this country's slide into Facism.

How?
By making us Communist?
If you look at the way Obama is running the country and goes after scape goats, Blames conress for not doing what he thinks needs to be done, creates endless government regulations, and wants to regulate guns, it actually parallels the early years in Facist Germany, with someone that has never held a job that created jobs telling others what they need to do to create jobs and how the government is the answer. Then add the simalarities to dead fathers, wrote a book about themselves before they actually did anything, and that both use others to explain away why they are failing. Facist Germany used the Jews, Obama is unsing the top 1% as not paying their fair share, not his failed policies that have made the top go down over the last 4 years rather than up. Up = better economy. Down = Worse. After all if the rich are no longer rich then who is going to hire you and me? Who is going to pay for our government? Oh and the "Wall Street" Comments are for the most part anti semitic. So you have that similarity as well.

DDZ · « **Reply #22 on:** December 12, 2011, 12:45:06 PM »

I think the guy is fundamentally stupid. Why would an intelligent president say he visited all 57 states? If it was just a gaff, how did he come up with 57? This is not the only stupid thing he has said in speeches. There is a whole laundry list. Everyone has a misspoke word or sentence from time to time, but Obama makes a habit of it.

He can impress crowds, as long as any questions don't get to detailed. For that crowd to be impressed, it has to be mostly filled with people that think that rich people are the reason they don't have a job.
A couple of months ago he stared into space for a full minute while waiting for his teleprompter to be turned on, to start a speech. All he said was we're waiting. Any somewhat intelligent politician would have at least told a joke or said something. My opinion is that he is the most unintelligent president ever.
He can certainly lie also. He would not be where he is if he didn't lie.

powderman · « **Reply #23 on:** December 12, 2011, 02:19:27 PM »

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Why would an intelligent president say he visited all 57 states?

He was thinking of his muslim states, and he wants to make America #58. POWDERMAN.

Junior1942 · « **Reply #24 on:** December 13, 2011, 02:08:00 AM »

Mussolini: Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.

Junior: Fascism should more appropriately be called Rebuplicanism because under Rebuplican leadership Big Oil runs the United States.

Read more: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/b/benito_mussolini.html#ixzz1gQ3Go7Um

gypsyman · « **Reply #25 on:** December 13, 2011, 02:45:18 AM »

Actually, Obama is good at one thing. If he gets reelected, he could do in 8 years, what took Rome 400 years to do!!gypsyman

mdwest · « **Reply #26 on:** December 13, 2011, 03:16:34 AM »

Quote from: Junior1942 on December 13, 2011, 02:08:00 AM

Mussolini: Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power. Junior: Fascism should more appropriately be called Rebuplicanism because under Rebuplican leadership Big Oil runs the United States.

Read more: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/b/benito_mussolini.html#ixzz1gQ3Go7Um

How about instead of Juniors made up definition of Fascism, we go with an internationally accepted definition:

From Websters:

A political philosiphy, movement, or regime, that exalts nation, and often race above the individual and stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forces suppression of opposition.

Fascism has nothing to do with oil or corporate power.. and everything to do with dictators and autocratic governments..

Mussolini also said of facism (all statements just as incorrect as the one you quoted above)..

Fascism is a religion. The twentieth century will be known in history as the century of Fascism.

Fascism is a religious concept.

ironglow · « **Reply #27 on:** December 13, 2011, 03:35:39 AM »

Quote from: Junior1942 on December 12, 2011, 03:29:33 AM

He's not stupid and he's not lying. He's just trying to stop this country's slide into Facism.

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Junior; in case you haven't noticed...He's the one who is 'greasing the skids' !

BTW: It's not wise to employ "Brainyquote" for a fact reference. Trolls frequent there, posting fraudulent and/or altered quotes..

mdwest · « **Reply #28 on:** December 13, 2011, 05:15:20 AM »

What exactly is misleading?

the definition posted is the Websters Dictionary definition.. and is quoted as such.. nothing to mislead there..

the quotes added are verifiable Mussolini quotes.. nothing misleading there either..

Assuming everyone agrees with your 14 charicteristics from wikipedia.. explain how that equates to the republican party's viewpoint and position on things as opposed to the democratic partys viewpoint and position..

Juniors statement equates fascism to the the republican party..

IF we take the 14 points from wikipedia (many of which I disagree with), there are certainly some points that more closely align with republicanpositioning than they do with democratic or libertarian positioning..

that said.. there are a number that can be much more closely associated with the democratic platform..

the truth is neither party is closely aligned with fascism (whether using websters or wikipedias definition)..

there are plenty of things wrong with both parties.. and plenty of problems with the US government in general..

a hard lean towards fascisim isnt one of them however.. (we are in far more danger of becoming socialists than we are fascists)..

mcwoodduck · « **Reply #29 on:** December 13, 2011, 05:33:42 AM »

Actually, there are 14 basic characteristics of fascism:
Let's look at these and seehow many apply to the Democrat party and Obama in particular.
1. powerful expressions of nationalism (OK he hates the country - so no)
2. distain for the importance of human rights (Bingo - Look at all the hate speach about killing this republican or that one)
3. identification of enemies (The 1% - the Republicans -Again all the hate speach and the division othe country)
4. supremacy of the military (The Military has been chaged to the Government and the breaurcracy and the growth of it)
5. rampant sexism, or preoccupation with sexual matters (Have you heard of the new Presidential order for diversity in Sexual preferance he signed)
6. controlled mass media (MSNBC, NY Times, San Fran Chronicle, LA Times, CNN, - Enough said)
7. obsession with national security (and the lack of it so that things are bad, and big government cvna be the answer)
8. religion and ruling elite tied together (government is the new religion and the ruleing elite are the government leaders)
9. protection of powerful corporations (Solyndria - BP Oil, and General Electric - You pay for protection with campaign support)
10. power of labor suppressed (EPA, NLRB, all fix it so no new plants can be built, no new sources of energy, no Union Jobs!= Ticked off people wanting to work and not able, again big Government is poised as the answer- how many times have we heard that JOBS are the top priority before or after Obama heads out on vaccation or to play golf) (Sir, we have over 10% real unemployment and 12% if you count under employment what should these workers do? "Let them Play golf".
11. disdain for intellectuals and the arts (the National endowment for the arts funding projects that use Poop and pee!)
12. obsession with crime (Fast and furious - Telling sworn officers not to make arrests - Again High Crime = Bigger governemnt)

14. fradulent elections (more dead people vote in democratic areas. The Democrats are against a simple PHOTO ID to show you are who you claim to be when you go to vote- many cases of people showing up to be told they already voted)and demonstration, war against the enviornment, apostasy, and so on.
...TM7 .