Author Topic: Arizona wants to build fence to protect Americans from invaders. (Read 736 times)

powderman · « **on:** November 25, 2011, 07:55:24 AM »

Arizona is taking on immigration once again, with lawmakers collecting donations from the public to put a fence along every inch of the state's border with Mexico. It is an unprecedented effort by a state that is the busiest U.S. gateway for both illegal immigrants and marijuana.

The idea came from state Senator Steve Smith, a Republican who says people from across the nation have donated about $255,000 to the project since the state in July launched a website that urges visitors to "show the world the resolve and the can-do spirit of the American people."

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crustylicious · « **Reply #1 on:** November 25, 2011, 08:47:10 AM »

Americans better step up their contributions. At the rate they're collecting funds it will take 55 years (inflation excluded) to get the money they need.

briarpatch · « **Reply #2 on:** November 25, 2011, 09:35:46 AM »

Dont you think it is kind of a waste to build a one sided fence in a four sided state.

Casull · « **Reply #3 on:** November 25, 2011, 10:04:26 AM »

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Dont you think it is kind of a waste to build a one sided fence in a four sided state.

I don't think they have a problem with illegals coming from NEW Mexico.

quasne.inc · « **Reply #4 on:** November 25, 2011, 10:47:27 AM »

The problem is we need California, New Mexico, and Texas to do it too.

briarpatch · « **Reply #5 on:** November 25, 2011, 01:03:49 PM »

Quote from: quasne.inc on November 25, 2011, 10:47:27 AM

The problem is we need California, New Mexico, and Texas to do it too.

Exactly! if all 57 states are not involved you're just throwing cotton balls at a charging lion.

Casull · « **Reply #6 on:** November 25, 2011, 01:32:10 PM »

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Exactly! if all 57 states are not involved you're just throwing cotton balls at a charging lion.

I thought it was 57+.

My guess is that Arizona is trying to protect Arizona, and not the US. They probably don't care if the illegals go elsewhere. Heck, they might even like it if they headed for DC.

briarpatch · « **Reply #7 on:** November 25, 2011, 01:34:58 PM »

We've got one to many illegal in DC now.

Dee · « **Reply #8 on:** November 25, 2011, 01:39:55 PM »

Arizona's attempt at building a fence will fail simply by the volume of fence needed, and the maintenance required after construction. I personally don't think a fence is the answer, and have lived in Texas all my life, and would like to stop the influx. The answer is: Deport all the American dope fiends to Mexico that are buying an consuming the dope, prosecute any American that employs an illegal, houses an illegal, or transports an illegal.
As far as the border itself? It would seem to me that helicopter gunships would be more productive backed by armed drones. Along with that, ARMED TROOPS FOR MOP UP AFTERWARDS. Take the money out of the traffic, and the lethality in crossing illegally. Now there is a fence.

Pat/Rick · « **Reply #9 on:** November 25, 2011, 04:13:55 PM »

Fence? No that costs too much. What is needed is range stakes and AP mines. If the war on drugs/terror were meant to be beneficial to the US citizen, THAT BORDER would have been closed.

srussell · « **Reply #10 on:** November 25, 2011, 04:43:05 PM »

fence,s will not help at all. the only real thing is to take away the reasons for coming here. like the well fare, anchor babies . well you know the rest. put Americans to work . alot would not like this but o well we have got to get away from the wellfare state thing

blind ear · « **Reply #11 on:** November 25, 2011, 07:14:04 PM »

The fence will probably be stolen at a rate faster than it is built. ear

magooch · « **Reply #12 on:** November 26, 2011, 03:21:13 AM »

I'd rather see signs placed all along the border that say, "If you cross this line, you will be shot." And then enforce it. The signs should be in English only.

Other than that, srussell is right.

quasne.inc · « **Reply #13 on:** November 26, 2011, 05:30:02 AM »

Now look at all the productive ideas we have here in this short list. If we could only get the government to start emplimenting some of these.

oldandslow · « **Reply #14 on:** November 27, 2011, 03:49:37 AM »

Quote from: Casull on November 25, 2011, 10:04:26 AM

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Dont you think it is kind of a waste to build a one sided fence in a four sided state.

I don't think they have a problem with illegals coming from NEW Mexico.

The fence is just another political "feel good" bit of hot air. It won't be built and wouldn't do any good if it was. No illegals are going to leave New Mexico. They get driver's licenses here legally.

powderman · « **Reply #15 on:** November 28, 2011, 04:27:46 PM »

Lots of great ideas here. Saw an AZ rancher on tv telling how his neighbor was murdered by illegal drug runners. Main thing is to realize that these people are NOT IMMIGRANTS. Call em what they are. Illegals, criminals, trespassers, squatters, invaders, and treat them accordingly. POWDERMAN.

magooch · « **Reply #16 on:** November 29, 2011, 04:40:50 AM »

Right on Powderman. The key word is "invaders" and the penalty shoudl be: shot on sight. There are only two things that will stop the hoards from disrespecting our borders and those are: 1) make the penalty severe and 2) remove all benefits (jobs, medical, drivers licenses, tacos--whatever). The second they cross the border illegally their very life should be forfeit.

BBF · « **Reply #17 on:** November 30, 2011, 08:03:57 AM »

Quote from: magooch on November 29, 2011, 04:40:50 AM

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............................. 1) make the penalty severe and 2) remove all benefits (jobs, medical, drivers licenses, tacos--whatever). The second they cross the border illegally their very life should be forfeit.

Which of the Presidential Candidates would even remotely entertain that thought?

Pat/Rick · « **Reply #18 on:** November 30, 2011, 08:09:51 AM »

blind ear · « **Reply #19 on:** November 30, 2011, 08:18:24 AM »

Quote from: powderman on November 28, 2011, 04:27:46 PM

Lots of great ideas here. Saw an AZ rancher on tv telling how his neighbor was murdered by illegal drug runners. Main thing is to realize that these people are NOT IMMIGRANTS. Call em what they are. Illegals, criminals, trespassers, squatters, invaders, and treat them accordingly. POWDERMAN.

+1 ear

blind ear · « **Reply #20 on:** November 30, 2011, 08:25:20 AM »

Quote from: quasne.inc on November 26, 2011, 05:30:02 AM

Now look at all the productive ideas we have here in this short list. If we could only get the government to start emplimenting some of these.

Have to get a leader elected that thinks that way so the people will have someone to support and legitamately have a plan to follow. Will a leader be able to bring the congress in line? I think so with the citizens behind the leader, at that point we can give congress no other option. We just have to stick together to elect that leader. ear

powderman · « **Reply #21 on:** November 30, 2011, 11:36:21 AM »

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We just have to stick together to elect that leader. ear

Agreed Sir, and an American this time. POWDERMAN.